Going out to eat with Size Zero friends..when you are not Size Zero..

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Anonymous wrote:Are there actually adult women who aren’t anorexic or bulemic who are a size zero?

Yes. Of course. It’s common and normal.

Most of my friends are not size 0 (I'm among the thinnest of my friends and I'm size 8/10) but of those who are really thin, none of them are thin because of eating disorders. It's all genetics. They eat just as much as I do.

So it is all genetics? And all your friends are over size 8? And people that are thin are thin bcs of genetics? And you are overweight bcs of genetics? Do you need a deeper pile of sand?

I never said I was overweight.

Again, if you are the pp who is size 8, you are. Size 8 today is like size 14 10 years ago.

So size 0=eating disorder and size 8=fat. Got it. And I'm the one who's delusional?

No, size 0 does not mean an eating disorder, size 8means overweight. Sadly, you seem to live in some alternate reality where you are thin and a size 8. Are you 6 feet tall?Ok, in that case you are normal weight.

NP here. No idea what your problem is (hangry perhaps? ), but the PP is a perfectly fine size. Doubtful that she's too skinny unless she's very tall, but definitely not fat unless she's 4' which also seems unlikely. Also, she said she was among the thinnest of her friends, which makes sense since the average size of the American woman now falls between a 16 and an 18.

We do not make "sense" when we think we are thin when we are borderline obese. If you are comparing yourself to an "average" American, that means many just obese people are thin. What a ridiculous notion.
She said she is thin, no idea when size 8 became thin. You can be thinner than your friends and still be overweight. Easy to be just a buffalo among elephants.

I am 5'9". I never said I was thin, I said I am among the thinnest of my friends. I am perfectly fine with being average but to say a size 8 is borderline obese is insane. And if you are wondering why people have eating disorders, it's because of mean bit*hes like you.

DP, and I agree the poster you’re responding to is being gratuitously mean. I’m just responding to your point that a size 8 isn’t fat. I don’t think it necessarily is at your height, but I’m 6 inches shorter than you and the heaviest I have ever been was about 140 lbs and size 6. I looked and felt very chubby at that weight and based on BMI charts was a couple of pounds from being overweight. It really depends on your frame size and height.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there actually adult women who aren’t anorexic or bulemic who are a size zero?

Yes. Of course. It’s common and normal.

Most of my friends are not size 0 (I'm among the thinnest of my friends and I'm size 8/10) but of those who are really thin, none of them are thin because of eating disorders. It's all genetics. They eat just as much as I do.

So it is all genetics? And all your friends are over size 8? And people that are thin are thin bcs of genetics? And you are overweight bcs of genetics? Do you need a deeper pile of sand?

I never said I was overweight.

Again, if you are the pp who is size 8, you are. Size 8 today is like size 14 10 years ago.

So size 0=eating disorder and size 8=fat. Got it. And I'm the one who's delusional?

No, size 0 does not mean an eating disorder, size 8means overweight. Sadly, you seem to live in some alternate reality where you are thin and a size 8. Are you 6 feet tall?Ok, in that case you are normal weight.

NP here. No idea what your problem is (hangry perhaps? ), but the PP is a perfectly fine size. Doubtful that she's too skinny unless she's very tall, but definitely not fat unless she's 4' which also seems unlikely. Also, she said she was among the thinnest of her friends, which makes sense since the average size of the American woman now falls between a 16 and an 18.

We do not make "sense" when we think we are thin when we are borderline obese. If you are comparing yourself to an "average" American, that means many just obese people are thin. What a ridiculous notion.
She said she is thin, no idea when size 8 became thin. You can be thinner than your friends and still be overweight. Easy to be just a buffalo among elephants.

I am 5'9". I never said I was thin, I said I am among the thinnest of my friends. I am perfectly fine with being average but to say a size 8 is borderline obese is insane. And if you are wondering why people have eating disorders, it's because of mean bit*hes like you.

How much do you weigh? If you are fine, let's hear it and see what the chart says.

145. Healthy weight according to the CDC.

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You can be fat and not yet obese. The upper third of the bmi chart for ‘normal’ weight is considered overweight. Disregarding actual health issues, and strictly talking aesthetics, that size 8 blogger is fat, in colloquial terms. If she could get down to a size 4 I bet she’d look amazing. We are so used to seeing overweight and obese women that people really believe she is as small as possible. It does a great disservice to women when we make them think losing weight is impossible, because it isn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:You can be fat and not yet obese. The upper third of the bmi chart for ‘normal’ weight is considered overweight. Disregarding actual health issues, and strictly talking aesthetics, that size 8 blogger is fat, in colloquial terms. If she could get down to a size 4 I bet she’d look amazing. We are so used to seeing overweight and obese women that people really believe she is as small as possible. It does a great disservice to women when we make them think losing weight is impossible, because it isn’t.

You are nuts. The upper third of normal is considered … normal. Overweight and obese have medical definitions. (Fat does not.) You can make up whatever you want, but that doesn’t make it true.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why posters are so invested in the idea that there’s no genetic component.

I’m 52, 5’3”, 110. Don’t exercise at all (yes, I know that’s bad) and don’t restrict what I eat. My weight stays consistent no matter what, just like my mom’s did and her mom before her.

But someone will now chime in to say that I clearly do something virtuous that overweight people don’t, because fat shaming is so important to them.

I wouldn’t go that far, and I’m not fat shaming anybody, but my experience with people like you is the genetic component is that you eat less food than others because you get full faster. Ultimately (at least a major component) of weight is a math problem - if you eat more calories than your metabolism burns, you gain, and if you burn more than you eat, you lose.

I am your height and weighed around 130 most of my adult life. I thought that was where my body was happy. A few years ago, I started actively counting calories and the weight fell off. I’m now around your weight and maintain it because I have trained myself to eat smaller portions (don’t restrict any foods).

But my friends who are naturally this way just baseline can eat less than I can. I have a lifelong friend who is not genetically thin (both parents are overweight) but ever since we were kids, she gets full eating 1/3 of what I do.

My point is that sometimes the “genetics” of thinness are really related to your feeling of satiety/how quickly you get full, which leads you to eat less. That can also be learned for people who are motivated, though.

I’ve never been overweight and it’s definitely the genetics of feeling full. I eat carrot sticks and Cheetos, so it’s not the type of food. The “never gain weight” gene is literally just the inability to eat past fullness. I definitely forget to eat when I’m busy and I get full pretty fast.

That said, I never notice what people order and I can’t imagine people actually care.

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Anonymous wrote:You can be fat and not yet obese. The upper third of the bmi chart for ‘normal’ weight is considered overweight. Disregarding actual health issues, and strictly talking aesthetics, that size 8 blogger is fat, in colloquial terms. If she could get down to a size 4 I bet she’d look amazing. We are so used to seeing overweight and obese women that people really believe she is as small as possible. It does a great disservice to women when we make them think losing weight is impossible, because it isn’t.

You are nuts. The upper third of normal is considered … normal. Overweight and obese have medical definitions. (Fat does not.) You can make up whatever you want, but that doesn’t make it true.

I specifically said that ‘being fat’ is colloquially about looks, not health/medicine. And look up the definition of overweight with regards to bmi. It’s a defined term on the chart, right below obese, and in the ‘normal weight’ category. Seriously, I’ll wait while you google.

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Anonymous wrote:You can be fat and not yet obese. The upper third of the bmi chart for ‘normal’ weight is considered overweight. Disregarding actual health issues, and strictly talking aesthetics, that size 8 blogger is fat, in colloquial terms. If she could get down to a size 4 I bet she’d look amazing. We are so used to seeing overweight and obese women that people really believe she is as small as possible. It does a great disservice to women when we make them think losing weight is impossible, because it isn’t.

You are nuts. The upper third of normal is considered … normal. Overweight and obese have medical definitions. (Fat does not.) You can make up whatever you want, but that doesn’t make it true.

I specifically said that ‘being fat’ is colloquially about looks, not health/medicine. And look up the definition of overweight with regards to bmi. It’s a defined term on the chart, right below obese, and in the ‘normal weight’ category. Seriously, I’ll wait while you google.

Normal weight is 18.5-24.9, overweight is 25-30. You are wrong.