Sinead O’Connor has died

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Anonymous wrote:https://consequence.net/2023/07/morrissey-sinead-oconnor/amp/

Kudos to Morrissey for calling out the hypocrisy of the music industry and celebs only heralding Sinead’s artistry after her death. The link contains his bold criticism of those who failed to support her when she was alive. He’s not wrong.

Morrissey is a big old racist.

Regardless, he isn’t wrong about the hypocrisy of the industry canceling her and all of a sudden calling her an icon now that she is dead.

Two things can be true, right?

She was (somewhat/mostly) cancelled but also was/is an icon. The two things are true.

[Anonymous]

Why was she cancelled?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why was she cancelled?

Ripping up a picture of the Pope.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why was she cancelled?

Ripping up a picture of the Pope.

Given what we know now she should have received a medal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was she cancelled?

Ripping up a picture of the Pope.

Given what we know now she should have received a medal.

https://slate.com/culture/2023/07/sinead-oconnor-death-pope-photo.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why was she cancelled?

Ripping up a picture of the Pope.

I watched this live because I loved her at that point. I think if she had said a little more and made it more clear what she was doing and why it could have sparked the discussion that we ended up having decades later, instead of just ruining her. I learned many years later that that picture wasn’t just a picture she cut out of a magazine, it was an actual photo her mother took during a papal visit and it was her mother’s prize possession. For the PP who asked, here it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://consequence.net/2023/07/morrissey-sinead-oconnor/amp/

Kudos to Morrissey for calling out the hypocrisy of the music industry and celebs only heralding Sinead’s artistry after her death. The link contains his bold criticism of those who failed to support her when she was alive. He’s not wrong.

Morrissey is a big old racist.

Regardless, he isn’t wrong about the hypocrisy of the industry canceling her and all of a sudden calling her an icon now that she is dead.

Two things can be true, right?

Agree. He may have his own problems, but that was a refreshingly bracing read.

I remember when she ripped up the pope's picture. As a liberal DC teen at the time, I never really got what the furor was about, but I do recall that pretty much being the end of her mainstream career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I fervently hope she is reunited with her child. RIP

True

[Anonymous]

I remember when she ripped up the pope's picture. As a liberal DC teen at the time, I never really got what the furor was about, but I do recall that pretty much being the end of her mainstream career.

Agreed. At the time, I thought her positions were interesting and principled, and didn't get why people found her so objectionable. However, I was not a big fan of her music itself - she did have a lovely voice, just not my taste in music.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why was she cancelled?

She also openly supported the IRA (Irish Republican Army), which at the time were in their reign of terror, bombing and shooting innocent civilians (including children) in attacks in the UK and Ireland. It wasn't just about ripping up a photo of the Pope.

[Anonymous]

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I remember when she ripped up the pope's picture. As a liberal DC teen at the time, I never really got what the furor was about, but I do recall that pretty much being the end of her mainstream career.

Agreed. At the time, I thought her positions were interesting and principled, and didn't get why people found her so objectionable. However, I was not a big fan of her music itself - she did have a lovely voice, just not my taste in music.

Felt exactly the same at the time, it seemed like an excessive reaction to a heartfelt action. However in retrospect, it's not as if I ever heard another one of her albums. So in someway I bought into the cancelation, or failed to support her in any way even though I wasn't around anyone who was shunning her.

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Anonymous wrote:She had the courage of her convictions refusing to be on SNL with Andrew Dice Clay and then when she did appear tearing up the picture of the pope.

A profile in courage.

This. No one stood up for her when the hordes came for her. It ruined her career.

And Morrissey is the only artist currently saying this out loud in a public way.

I wonder if the two were friends or if he ever reached out to her?

It was soul crushing as a young 20 something knowing she was right and seeing what happened to her. The world prefers shiny happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://consequence.net/2023/07/morrissey-sinead-oconnor/amp/

Kudos to Morrissey for calling out the hypocrisy of the music industry and celebs only heralding Sinead’s artistry after her death. The link contains his bold criticism of those who failed to support her when she was alive. He’s not wrong.

Morrissey is a big old racist.

Part of it is Morrissey is a giant tool with a horrible reputation but a musical genius nonetheless. He will probably get similar treatment when he eventually dies — celebrated more in death than alive.

As an aside, any Smiths fans would do well check on Rick Astley doing an entire set of Smiths songs recently. And that’s no rickroll.

[Anonymous]

I didn't realize she was at a Magdalene laundry. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize she was at a Magdalene laundry. Wow.

She wasn't. She was in a children's home on the site of a closed down magdalene laundry.