APS Engage Update Pre-CIP Report
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Anonymous
You can find all the enrollment data on line and draw conclusions yourself about where these kids went. The data is all there. |
Anonymous
100% agree but the problem is no one trusts their predictions/numbers because they appear to be so bad at it. And they cherry pick. The boundary process is so terrible and causes so much wasted energy. |
Anonymous
+1. APS seems to be awful at predicting what it is going to make sense for the long term. In the face of a global pandemic that’s completely upended what we thought we knew about school growth (which was hard learned in the face of being repeatedly wrong before), you’d think some humility would be in order. And I disagree threads like this are the problem. We are right to question half-baked assumptions and poke holes in flawed methodologies. The fact that the school board keeps buckling in the face of opposition shows they have little faith in staff’s analysis and the assumptions don’t stand up to scrutiny. Schools are meant to serve the educational needs of students, and APS seems to have completely lost sight of this chasing the Syphax wishlists of the day. APS may be happy to see these parents go, but we all know what happens when people with money and influence lose faith in the public school system. The whole system benefits when the entire community is engaged and invested. Take a look at ACPS for an example of what happens if when UMC and MC parents disengage. |
Anonymous
A conversation clearly by north arlington residents. Try thinking outside of your own little neighborhood community and school and think about Montessori moving out of the old Henry building and becoming - what? - another neighborhood elementary to resolve the overcrowding in south arlington elementaries? Now, how would you be reacting if you lived in Arlington Heights or Alcova Heights or Green Valley, the neighborhood surrounding the current Montessori building and the new Fleet building just a few blocks away. Do you think that makes more sense than busing kids to fill existing under-enrolled buildings? Or do you think they should just bus the overflow kids from far south Arlington up to fill your neighborhood schools so you can still walk to it? Of course, keep in mind, you live up there precisely NOT to have your kids go to school with these south Arlington kids. I guess it's a no-win for y'all up there. |
Anonymous
No |
Anonymous
Ok help me then. Can you point me to where? What percentage departed? How did that change from past years? Are they reenrolling? What is the impact on seating capacity at WMS? YHS? If it’s significant, has anyone looked at whether these kids are come back? How would that impact seating? If it becomes the norm in certain neighborhoods, do we expect it to increase? If so, does that mean even emptier N Arlington schools? |
Anonymous
It's maddening that everyone has such short or distorted memory. APS staff isn't to blame for the dislike for "map islands." That was ALL because of COMMUNITY complaints. People always pick whatever bolsters their self-interests to argue for certain boundary outcomes. Then they blame APS staff for listening. |
Anonymous
Closed McKinley?? Am I mistaken that the McKinley building is still being used as an elementary school? |
Anonymous
After observing the McKinley/Key/ATS/Cardinal boundary process up close and looking at all the data from all sides in depth, I began to really question this often repeated narrative. Sorry it's inconvenient, but APS staff is capable of making good recommendations with the best information they have and often times parents really don't have the full picture. Who is more self-interested? Them or you? I just think the narrative that APS stuff constantly sucks and is incompetent is unfair. Do they make mistakes and get things wrong at times? Yes. Are they plotting against you? Probably not. My opinion is the parent communities can just be insanely obstinate. There is no reasoning with people who want what they want and are used to getting their way. |
Anonymous
Hmmm.... maybe filling existing seats?! |
Anonymous
Not known. But we do know some are coming back. APS was off by 100+ in its projections for Nottingham, Discovery, Taylor, and Cardinal in the last year. That doesn’t account for any residual redshirts or people who did private kindergarten in the face of continued COVID uncertainty that are enrolling next year. APS doesn’t want to know the answer, because they are planning to firm up the decision to shut down Nottingham by October. |
Anonymous
Some of you are super lazy. https://www.apsva.us/statistics/enrollment/ |
Anonymous
Of course you do! And let's keep the next generation or two of south elementary students jammed into their facilities while we northerners enjoy air and space and calm until that additional school can be built in the south. Duh. It's the simple and logical solution. We'll even offer-up some of our teachers to those crowded schools with hundreds more children. |
Anonymous
Were they also off by 100 for Jamestown and Tuckahoe? I mean, if so, that is 600 kids? Seems important if only from a seats perspective. But I agree with the PP about the exodus and huge swaths of the county opting out of APS. It becomes less acceptable and to send kids and then it snowballs. Or maybe not. Maybe it’s just a blip. Regardless, I think it’s important if it’s affecting 600 seats. |
Anonymous
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The APS planning staff work with County planning staff and use the best information available to project enrollment. Read their reports, they painstakingly detail their methodology if you care. Go to school and get a planning degree and join them and do a better job!
Do they go to every home and interview the residents about their thoughts and dreams and plans for the future? No. They are PROJECTIONS. |