APS Engage Update Pre-CIP Report

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You will like Williamsburg though. Great school.


I've heard nothing good about it. No thanks.


I haven’t heard anything good about Swanson lately though.


It’s middle school. That’s because it’s not good.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You will like Williamsburg though. Great school.


I've heard nothing good about it. No thanks.


I haven’t heard anything good about Swanson lately though.


I'm pp and we're zoned for Hamm

I saw that. It was disappointing how many kids right by Taylor/hamm will now be moved to Williamsburg.


And it was the Taylor families who fought so hard to reopen Stratford as the new middle school, now Dorothy Hamm. Only a very small section of Taylor families along Langston Blvd will remain at Dorothy Hamm.

Also with the draft boundaries, the middle schools will become even more segregated with Williamsburg becoming more wealthy and white. Lower income students will be further concentrated in all the other middle schools. I realize demographics will not factor into any of these boundary changes, but the proposed boundaries run counter to the diversity the Arlington community claims to value.
Anonymous
How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


Let's bring back the Rosslyn island!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


Let's bring back the Rosslyn island!


Sadly diversity is no longer part of the boundary process. The island was removed because contiguous boundaries looked cleaner on paper. There is probably no chance the Rosslyn island will go back to Williamsburg so that privileged Taylor families can walk to Dorothy Hamm.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


Let's bring back the Rosslyn island!


Sadly diversity is no longer part of the boundary process. The island was removed because contiguous boundaries looked cleaner on paper. There is probably no chance the Rosslyn island will go back to Williamsburg so that privileged Taylor families can walk to Dorothy Hamm.


I looked at the maps they've proposed. There are people who can literally see Hamm from their house (I even looked it up on street view to confirm) who will be bused to Williamsburg if this passes. I'd be pretty pissed if I were them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


Well the transportation people are seemed against the move of Immersion to kenmore so they probably aren't happy about this either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


Let's bring back the Rosslyn island!


Sadly diversity is no longer part of the boundary process. The island was removed because contiguous boundaries looked cleaner on paper. There is probably no chance the Rosslyn island will go back to Williamsburg so that privileged Taylor families can walk to Dorothy Hamm.


I looked at the maps they've proposed. There are people who can literally see Hamm from their house (I even looked it up on street view to confirm) who will be bused to Williamsburg if this passes. I'd be pretty pissed if I were them.


Since the era of public engagement is over, I’d say it’s up to the Taylor families to once again take the initiative and meet with School Board members. Otherwise staff may (at most) just collect some anonymous feedback via an online form prior to coming up with the finalized boundaries.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


Let's bring back the Rosslyn island!


Sadly diversity is no longer part of the boundary process. The island was removed because contiguous boundaries looked cleaner on paper. There is probably no chance the Rosslyn island will go back to Williamsburg so that privileged Taylor families can walk to Dorothy Hamm.


I looked at the maps they've proposed. There are people who can literally see Hamm from their house (I even looked it up on street view to confirm) who will be bused to Williamsburg if this passes. I'd be pretty pissed if I were them.


Since the era of public engagement is over, I’d say it’s up to the Taylor families to once again take the initiative and meet with School Board members. Otherwise staff may (at most) just collect some anonymous feedback via an online form prior to coming up with the finalized boundaries.



I agree. We will have to get organized, starting tomorrow. This is a ridiculous way to solve overcrowding in South Arlington. Oh, but we should definitely bring in more families via Missing Middle
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


Let's bring back the Rosslyn island!


Sadly diversity is no longer part of the boundary process. The island was removed because contiguous boundaries looked cleaner on paper. There is probably no chance the Rosslyn island will go back to Williamsburg so that privileged Taylor families can walk to Dorothy Hamm.


I looked at the maps they've proposed. There are people who can literally see Hamm from their house (I even looked it up on street view to confirm) who will be bused to Williamsburg if this passes. I'd be pretty pissed if I were them.


Since the era of public engagement is over, I’d say it’s up to the Taylor families to once again take the initiative and meet with School Board members. Otherwise staff may (at most) just collect some anonymous feedback via an online form prior to coming up with the finalized boundaries.


It’s interesting you reflect back on “the good old days” of privileged white people with the time, access, and comfort level to personally lobby School Board members as the gold standard of public engagement. I understand that’s how things have worked in Arlington for a long time but it sucks and leads to poor decision making.
Anonymous
Any changes to Swanson zone? I don’t know where to find this proposed map…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


The same place they're going to get the buses to take kids from schools being renovated to Nottingham and back
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


Let's bring back the Rosslyn island!


Sadly diversity is no longer part of the boundary process. The island was removed because contiguous boundaries looked cleaner on paper. There is probably no chance the Rosslyn island will go back to Williamsburg so that privileged Taylor families can walk to Dorothy Hamm.


I looked at the maps they've proposed. There are people who can literally see Hamm from their house (I even looked it up on street view to confirm) who will be bused to Williamsburg if this passes. I'd be pretty pissed if I were them.


Since the era of public engagement is over, I’d say it’s up to the Taylor families to once again take the initiative and meet with School Board members. Otherwise staff may (at most) just collect some anonymous feedback via an online form prior to coming up with the finalized boundaries.


It’s interesting you reflect back on “the good old days” of privileged white people with the time, access, and comfort level to personally lobby School Board members as the gold standard of public engagement. I understand that’s how things have worked in Arlington for a long time but it sucks and leads to poor decision making.


These draft boundaries result in increased segregation and remove walkable neighborhoods from schools, including homes within view of the school itself. If adopted, I’d say these boundaries are the result of exceptionally poor decision making. That’s inexcusable.

If APS were to bring back public engagement then they would have to work harder to involve all stakeholders, including those who can’t make it to meetings because they don’t have that socio-economic privilege.

Without public engagement, then yes, those parents of privilege will no doubt still advocate on behalf of their neighborhoods. I don’t blame them.
Anonymous
Where can we see new boundaries?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are they ever going to find all the buses for this? They've complained for years how they don't have space to store buses and how they can't find enough bus drivers. They will have to bus all of Donaldson Run to Williamsburg bc it's all outside the walk zone (while being all completely in the walk zone for Hamm). That's hundreds of kids.


Let's bring back the Rosslyn island!


Sadly diversity is no longer part of the boundary process. The island was removed because contiguous boundaries looked cleaner on paper. There is probably no chance the Rosslyn island will go back to Williamsburg so that privileged Taylor families can walk to Dorothy Hamm.


I looked at the maps they've proposed. There are people who can literally see Hamm from their house (I even looked it up on street view to confirm) who will be bused to Williamsburg if this passes. I'd be pretty pissed if I were them.


Since the era of public engagement is over, I’d say it’s up to the Taylor families to once again take the initiative and meet with School Board members. Otherwise staff may (at most) just collect some anonymous feedback via an online form prior to coming up with the finalized boundaries.


It’s interesting you reflect back on “the good old days” of privileged white people with the time, access, and comfort level to personally lobby School Board members as the gold standard of public engagement. I understand that’s how things have worked in Arlington for a long time but it sucks and leads to poor decision making.


These draft boundaries result in increased segregation and remove walkable neighborhoods from schools, including homes within view of the school itself. If adopted, I’d say these boundaries are the result of exceptionally poor decision making. That’s inexcusable.

If APS were to bring back public engagement then they would have to work harder to involve all stakeholders, including those who can’t make it to meetings because they don’t have that socio-economic privilege.

Without public engagement, then yes, those parents of privilege will no doubt still advocate on behalf of their neighborhoods. I don’t blame them.
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Ah, because, equity.
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