Meta analysis of Covid Lockdowns
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Anonymous
One of the (few) good things about living in the US during the pandemic versus a country like France, was our lack of national restrictions. To avoid the crazy restrictions and rules in a place like DC, we spent a lot of time in places like Florida and Georgia. I'm thankful we live in a country where the Federal government couldn't dictate to everyone how to respond to covid, and that can't forbid travel. |
Anonymous
Two points: 1) DC never enforced those rules within DC limits in any meaningful sense. 2) The Mayor of DC and/or the Governor of any given State, cannot legally ban people from traveling out of, to, or through the District and/or the State in question. So, no, we were in no danger of arrest when we left DC to fly to ski or beach vacations, regardless of some theoretical stay at home order. Americans need to understand their rights better. |
Anonymous
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Remember when 3000 people died on 9-11 and we got into two whole ass wars about it and the airport is a PITA to this day?
And now those same people who got us into the wars are saying “saving 4000 Americans wasn’t worth it!” |
Anonymous
If something was never going to work, why should someone engage in it? |
Anonymous
It's almost like two different situations are different. And there are plenty of people on the right, like me, who believe that there was government overreach in the response to 9-11. But, the restrictions imposed post 9-11 and the negative impact on civil rights pales in comparison to what happened during the pandemic. I'm glad we live in a Federal republic, where the national government couldn't impose a nationwide lockdown, like people like Fauci and Brix wanted. |
Anonymous
I don't have to refute it. The SSRN rejected the paper. That speaks volumes about it's validity. The contortions the authors go into to explain their screening process for which studies to include in their "analysis" and which to not is another big clue that the conclusions here were preordained and the studies selected for inclusion were intended to arrive at that conclusion. How about you tell us why you think the findings are valid, other than the fact that they're in a 200-page report they hope no one will actually read? |
Anonymous
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Here's the normie take which 80% of Americans not on DCUM, Twitter, Reddit, 8Chan, or Tumblr think:
1. The lockdowns were a good idea at the time and saved lives initially by flattening the curve, but they went on too long 2. Masks probably were a good idea for a few months, but then became a social problem 3. Warp Speed was a great success that saved a lot of lives, and the vaccines are safe and effective 4. Shutting down schools after spring 2020 was a huge mistake and led to massive learning loss and social problems, which will plague a generation 5. Initially well intentioned and positive programs (eviction freezes, stimmy, giveaways to businesses) went on too long and were too large and caused the current inflation mess 6. There was an information crisis created from both sides (censorship from left and govt, misinformation and pseudoscience from right) that persists and is very bad for democracy Given that both sides hate the above, it's probably mostly accurate. |
Anonymous
| We never did real lockdowns. Think of all the lives saved in china with real lockdowns. |
Anonymous
Anyone who wants to emulate Chinese policies on anything shouldn't be taken seriously. |
Anonymous
Same here. I have family in Jordan and Dubai. It was out of control there. Though, I will say that even here in the US, the federal government really did try to forbid travel, and other things. Luckily it was somewhat kept in check. |
Anonymous
LOL. Are you being sarcastic? I'm assuming that you're joking. China is/was a disaster and I can't think of anyone who really wants to emulate anything that goes on in China. |
Anonymous
I agree with this. Most people feel this way. |
Anonymous
+ A MILLION |
Anonymous
I have relatives in Canada, and certain provinces would ban people from other provinces from traveling there. Thankfully, Governors and Mayors don't have that power here. And the Federal government doesn't have that power, either. Americans are free to move about this country. |
Anonymous
This nails it. I'm a lefty progressive and when I encounter people who can't admit the ways the left was wrong on aspect of Covid, or contributed to misinformation and dysfunction, I get so frustrated. Yes, Trump was an idiot who bungled the initial response, and yes, the angry anti-mask, anti-vaccine MAGA people are a problem. But if you can't see the mistakes the left made as well, you lose credibility, because there were a lot of them. I do give a lot of credit to Biden and his team for quietly unrolling/rejecting the more unhinged positions of some people on the left, often opening themselves up to criticism. It's the right thing to do and is part of what has enabled people to arrive at these conclusions in a sane way instead of continuing to cling to prior delusions. There was a lot of reactionary behavior from the left that was entirely about proving Trump and his followers wrong and had little if anything to do with public health or even basic progressive principles like ensuring families and children have access to basic services. |