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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

you are in the minority of atheists. The majority of atheists dislike all religions and religious people.

All the atheists I know are not anti-religion. Most of them once were religious and have lots of religious family and friends.

A majority of atheists (70%) also say churches and other religious organizations do more harm than good in society, and an even larger share (93%) say religious institutions have too much influence in U.S. politics.

In the U.S., atheists are mostly men and are relatively young, according to the 2014 Religious Landscape Study. About seven-in-ten U.S. atheists are men (68%). The median age for atheists is 34, compared with 46 for all U.S. adults. Atheists also are more likely to be white (78% vs. 66% of the general public).

In many cases, being an atheist isn’t just about personally rejecting religious labels and beliefs – most atheists also express negative views when asked about the role of religion in society. For example, seven-in-ten U.S. atheists say religion’s influence is declining in American public life, and that this is a good thing (71%), according to a 2019 survey. Fewer than one-in-five U.S. adults overall (17%) share this view. A majority of atheists (70%) also say churches and other religious organizations do more harm than good in society, and an even larger share (93%) say religious institutions have too much influence in U.S. politics.

Atheists also find more meaning in money than religious people, according to Pew.

Wouldn't you agree that religious organizations have too much influence on US politics?

No, not at all.

Biden is always talking about his Catholic faith, nobody has a tantrum about that.

Because he's not trying to force his beliefs on anyone else.

Would you be OK if women were required to wear hijabs in the US -- if conservative Muslim political groups worked for decades to install religious extremists on the SCOTUS? Even if it's not what the majority of Americans wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

you are in the minority of atheists. The majority of atheists dislike all religions and religious people.

All the atheists I know are not anti-religion. Most of them once were religious and have lots of religious family and friends.

A majority of atheists (70%) also say churches and other religious organizations do more harm than good in society, and an even larger share (93%) say religious institutions have too much influence in U.S. politics.

In the U.S., atheists are mostly men and are relatively young, according to the 2014 Religious Landscape Study. About seven-in-ten U.S. atheists are men (68%). The median age for atheists is 34, compared with 46 for all U.S. adults. Atheists also are more likely to be white (78% vs. 66% of the general public).

In many cases, being an atheist isn’t just about personally rejecting religious labels and beliefs – most atheists also express negative views when asked about the role of religion in society. For example, seven-in-ten U.S. atheists say religion’s influence is declining in American public life, and that this is a good thing (71%), according to a 2019 survey. Fewer than one-in-five U.S. adults overall (17%) share this view. A majority of atheists (70%) also say churches and other religious organizations do more harm than good in society, and an even larger share (93%) say religious institutions have too much influence in U.S. politics.

Atheists also find more meaning in money than religious people, according to Pew.

Wouldn't you agree that religious organizations have too much influence on US politics?

Some people belong to religious communities. Some of them get elected or appointed to office. All kinds of organizations lobby, religious and civic. That’s America.

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

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And don’t force your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

Praying in public, being religious in public, talking about one’s religion, etc, isn’t forcing religion on anyone. Atheists think society in America should be secular, and that’s their mistake. Our government cannot establish a state religion. Americans are allowed to be as religious as they wish, or reject any and all religion.

Nobody in America is forced to be religious, and you know that.

Players are forced to pray with coaches.

Then that is an abuse of authority by the coaches and they should be disciplined for violating the rights of the players.

That has nothing to do with the Constitution allowing coaches themselves to pray at work. The courts must allow that; and the employer must enforce rules to protect and balance the rights of all and not allow coaches to discriminate based on religion. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.

America is not easy. Balancing rights is sometimes challenging.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

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And don’t force your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

Praying in public, being religious in public, talking about one’s religion, etc, isn’t forcing religion on anyone. Atheists think society in America should be secular, and that’s their mistake. Our government cannot establish a state religion. Americans are allowed to be as religious as they wish, or reject any and all religion.

Nobody in America is forced to be religious, and you know that.

Players are forced to pray with coaches.

Then that is an abuse of authority by the coaches and they should be disciplined for violating the rights of the players.

That has nothing to do with the Constitution allowing coaches themselves to pray at work. The courts must allow that; and the employer must enforce rules to protect and balance the rights of all and not allow coaches to discriminate based on religion. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.

America is not easy. Balancing rights is sometimes challenging.

The challenge is when the person with authority is infringing on others' rights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

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And don’t force your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

Praying in public, being religious in public, talking about one’s religion, etc, isn’t forcing religion on anyone. Atheists think society in America should be secular, and that’s their mistake. Our government cannot establish a state religion. Americans are allowed to be as religious as they wish, or reject any and all religion.

Nobody in America is forced to be religious, and you know that.

Players are forced to pray with coaches.

Then that is an abuse of authority by the coaches and they should be disciplined for violating the rights of the players.

That has nothing to do with the Constitution allowing coaches themselves to pray at work. The courts must allow that; and the employer must enforce rules to protect and balance the rights of all and not allow coaches to discriminate based on religion. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.

America is not easy. Balancing rights is sometimes challenging.

The challenge is when the person with authority is infringing on others' rights.

How is a coach that prays with athletes from both teams on a voluntary basis infringing on the rights of others?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

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And don’t force your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

Praying in public, being religious in public, talking about one’s religion, etc, isn’t forcing religion on anyone. Atheists think society in America should be secular, and that’s their mistake. Our government cannot establish a state religion. Americans are allowed to be as religious as they wish, or reject any and all religion.

Nobody in America is forced to be religious, and you know that.

Players are forced to pray with coaches.

Then that is an abuse of authority by the coaches and they should be disciplined for violating the rights of the players.

That has nothing to do with the Constitution allowing coaches themselves to pray at work. The courts must allow that; and the employer must enforce rules to protect and balance the rights of all and not allow coaches to discriminate based on religion. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.

America is not easy. Balancing rights is sometimes challenging.

The challenge is when the person with authority is infringing on others' rights.

How is a coach that prays with athletes from both teams on a voluntary basis infringing on the rights of others?

Same reason a teacher can’t lead prayers in class and let kids opt in or out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

you are in the minority of atheists. The majority of atheists dislike all religions and religious people.

Hate to break it to you, but the majority of atheists don’t spend any time thinking about, talking about, or hating religious people. Honestly, most atheists just don’t care about your religion.

The constant posts on this forum by atheists beg to differ.

Do you know what majority means?

I’m an atheist and find all of this bickering absurd. I don’t care what you or my kids soccer coach does. He’s smart enough to not let a middle school soccer coach pressure him into religion. I went to catholic school for seven years… still atheist. What you do at home is way more important that some soccer coach and the MAJORITY of atheists know this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

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And don’t force your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

Praying in public, being religious in public, talking about one’s religion, etc, isn’t forcing religion on anyone. Atheists think society in America should be secular, and that’s their mistake. Our government cannot establish a state religion. Americans are allowed to be as religious as they wish, or reject any and all religion.

Nobody in America is forced to be religious, and you know that.

Players are forced to pray with coaches.

Then that is an abuse of authority by the coaches and they should be disciplined for violating the rights of the players.

That has nothing to do with the Constitution allowing coaches themselves to pray at work. The courts must allow that; and the employer must enforce rules to protect and balance the rights of all and not allow coaches to discriminate based on religion. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.

America is not easy. Balancing rights is sometimes challenging.

The challenge is when the person with authority is infringing on others' rights.

How is a coach that prays with athletes from both teams on a voluntary basis infringing on the rights of others?

Same reason a teacher can’t lead prayers in class and let kids opt in or out.

Attending school is compulsory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

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And don’t force your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

Praying in public, being religious in public, talking about one’s religion, etc, isn’t forcing religion on anyone. Atheists think society in America should be secular, and that’s their mistake. Our government cannot establish a state religion. Americans are allowed to be as religious as they wish, or reject any and all religion.

Nobody in America is forced to be religious, and you know that.

Players are forced to pray with coaches.

Then that is an abuse of authority by the coaches and they should be disciplined for violating the rights of the players.

That has nothing to do with the Constitution allowing coaches themselves to pray at work. The courts must allow that; and the employer must enforce rules to protect and balance the rights of all and not allow coaches to discriminate based on religion. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.

America is not easy. Balancing rights is sometimes challenging.

The challenge is when the person with authority is infringing on others' rights.

How is a coach that prays with athletes from both teams on a voluntary basis infringing on the rights of others?

If it's "voluntary" but the athletes feel compelled to join because the authority figure is doing it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

you are in the minority of atheists. The majority of atheists dislike all religions and religious people.

Hate to break it to you, but the majority of atheists don’t spend any time thinking about, talking about, or hating religious people. Honestly, most atheists just don’t care about your religion.

The constant posts on this forum by atheists beg to differ.

Do you know what majority means?

I’m an atheist and find all of this bickering absurd. I don’t care what you or my kids soccer coach does. He’s smart enough to not let a middle school soccer coach pressure him into religion. I went to catholic school for seven years… still atheist. What you do at home is way more important that some soccer coach and the MAJORITY of atheists know this.

Your opinion is meaningless. We follow the constitution in the United States.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

+1

And don’t force your religious beliefs on the rest of us.

Praying in public, being religious in public, talking about one’s religion, etc, isn’t forcing religion on anyone. Atheists think society in America should be secular, and that’s their mistake. Our government cannot establish a state religion. Americans are allowed to be as religious as they wish, or reject any and all religion.

Nobody in America is forced to be religious, and you know that.

Players are forced to pray with coaches.

Then that is an abuse of authority by the coaches and they should be disciplined for violating the rights of the players.

That has nothing to do with the Constitution allowing coaches themselves to pray at work. The courts must allow that; and the employer must enforce rules to protect and balance the rights of all and not allow coaches to discriminate based on religion. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.

America is not easy. Balancing rights is sometimes challenging.

The challenge is when the person with authority is infringing on others' rights.

How is a coach that prays with athletes from both teams on a voluntary basis infringing on the rights of others?

Same reason a teacher can’t lead prayers in class and let kids opt in or out.

Attending school is compulsory.

So is authority figures not leading prayer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

you are in the minority of atheists. The majority of atheists dislike all religions and religious people.

Hate to break it to you, but the majority of atheists don’t spend any time thinking about, talking about, or hating religious people. Honestly, most atheists just don’t care about your religion.

The constant posts on this forum by atheists beg to differ.

Do you know what majority means?

I’m an atheist and find all of this bickering absurd. I don’t care what you or my kids soccer coach does. He’s smart enough to not let a middle school soccer coach pressure him into religion. I went to catholic school for seven years… still atheist. What you do at home is way more important that some soccer coach and the MAJORITY of atheists know this.

Your opinion is meaningless. We follow the constitution in the United States.

Then get TF out of my uterus.

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Anonymous wrote:Sports is not just about the outcome is the game in terms of wins and losses. That's what we the fans see, but when I'm competing what I'm thinking about is planting my properly so that I don't get injured and all that must go right in order for that to work correctly. It is indeed a prayer. Whether we win or lose, we gave people of whatever faiths, I will be praying for them because I do not wish injury on as anyone. We play these games for joy, not to get injured.

If you choose to not participate then that's your choice and I will not force you. But this is not about winning and losing.

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But sports often result in injury. There's a whole field of sports medicine and ambulances are often parked at sporting events just waiting for an accident. So it seems like sports prayers are not working and that people really don't expect them to work.

Maybe the prayers make you feel better, calm you. Fine. but they certainly don't offer protection from injuries.

You are talking out your backside. You don’t know how anyone’s prayers work- and honestly telling people about their faith and how their faith works/doesn’t work is utterly rude and disrespectful. Your parents did a terrible job raising you. On second thought, perhaps they did a great job- and you have decided to become a know it all jerk on your own terms.

Do you tell people irl that their prayers don’t work and deem to educate them on their faith? I have a hard time believing you would talk to someone like this irl.

If you are an adult- you have to be one of the atheists who posts incessantly about being shunned by society and having to fight for civil rights. You are as bad as a nosy, ignorant evangelical who runs around trying to convince everyone that they need to get in their specific church. It’s horrible.

I can firmly say the atheists that post here are not nicer, more open-minded, tolerant, etc, than religious people. They are worse in their speech, manners, and have no ideas that inspire or bring hope or peace to anyone.

So Christians can evangelize but other people cannot put their viewpoint forth?

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists express overwhelmingly negative feelings toward evangelical Christians but are also more negative than positive toward Catholics, mainline Protestants, Mormons and Muslims. “The negative feelings are mutual when it comes to Protestants and Catholics, who give atheists net negative ratings,” Pew states. Jews are the only group to get a positive rating on balance from atheists, and they also are more likely to express positive rather than negative views toward atheists.

Americans continue to rate atheists more negatively than positively but atheists have edged up slightly above Muslims and Mormons in terms of favorability ratings. Only 20 percent of Americans have favorable opinions of atheists.

Most Americans are neutral overall about religions, however.

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/42136-pew-study-shows-acceptance-of-atheists-is-low-but-gradually-increasing

So if people don’t like atheists- it’s because they are hateful bigots?

But when atheists don’t like religion/religious people- it’s because religious people have done something bad to atheists?

Play the victim much? Atheists don’t just personally not believe in God- they don’t want anyone to be religious.

Atheist here. I don't care so much what others believe as long as they don't try to convert me and don't try to speak for me. A lot of religious people feel the same way. Although every religion has its dogma, not everyone believes everything that's in it. Atheists don't have dogma. They just don't believe in God. They may have other good or bad characteristics, just like religious people, not related to their lack of belief in God.

you are in the minority of atheists. The majority of atheists dislike all religions and religious people.

Hate to break it to you, but the majority of atheists don’t spend any time thinking about, talking about, or hating religious people. Honestly, most atheists just don’t care about your religion.

The constant posts on this forum by atheists beg to differ.

Do you know what majority means?

I’m an atheist and find all of this bickering absurd. I don’t care what you or my kids soccer coach does. He’s smart enough to not let a middle school soccer coach pressure him into religion. I went to catholic school for seven years… still atheist. What you do at home is way more important that some soccer coach and the MAJORITY of atheists know this.

But wouldn't your prefer that coaches didn't pull players together to pray on the field?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sports is not just about the outcome is the game in terms of wins and losses. That's what we the fans see, but when I'm competing what I'm thinking about is planting my properly so that I don't get injured and all that must go right in order for that to work correctly. It is indeed a prayer. Whether we win or lose, we gave people of whatever faiths, I will be praying for them because I do not wish injury on as anyone. We play these games for joy, not to get injured.

If you choose to not participate then that's your choice and I will not force you. But this is not about winning and losing.

ting events

But sports often result in injury. There's a whole field of sports medicine and ambulances are often parked at sporting events just waiting for an accident. So it seems like sports prayers are not working and that people really don't expect them to work.

Maybe the prayers make you feel better, calm you. Fine. but they certainly don't offer protection from injuries.

You are talking out your backside. You don’t know how anyone’s prayers work- and honestly telling people about their faith and how their faith works/doesn’t work is utterly rude and disrespectful. Your parents did a terrible job raising you. On second thought, perhaps they did a great job- and you have decided to become a know it all jerk on your own terms.

Do you tell people irl that their prayers don’t work and deem to educate them on their faith? I have a hard time believing you would talk to someone like this irl.

If you are an adult- you have to be one of the atheists who posts incessantly about being shunned by society and having to fight for civil rights. You are as bad as a nosy, ignorant evangelical who runs around trying to convince everyone that they need to get in their specific church. It’s horrible.

I can firmly say the atheists that post here are not nicer, more open-minded, tolerant, etc, than religious people. They are worse in their speech, manners, and have no ideas that inspire or bring hope or peace to anyone.

So Christians can evangelize but other people cannot put their viewpoint forth?

Depends on the Christian -- If they're not too aggressive, it's OK. Lots of believing Christians don't like evangelists who push their particular brand of Christianity that is different from other, non-aggressive Christian believers.