How many times have you had Covid?

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Once. In March 2020. Long Covid. I have got 4 jabs.

My DH, DCs got it after 2 jabs. Mild.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Do you hear yourself?

You are basically saying if I am not at risk for dying from it, how big a deal can it really be?

Totally self-absorbed.

NP. That's not how I read this at all. This person is saying that the war analogy is a very bad one. This disease and it's worst outcomes are not at all random. They never were even in March 2020. In May 2023, the worst outcomes even for the weakest among us are largely (not entirely) avoidable even for the elderly and sick if they avail themselves of vaccines and treatments. Re-read the bolded sentence. That is this person's point and I agree 100 percent.

March 2020 are you insane.

Healthy adults died in the parking lots in NY of COVID.

It was not unavoidable if you had to pay bills and go to work.

I agree the vaccine saved lives but the vaccine deniers have killed more people than gun violence.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Do you hear yourself?

You are basically saying if I am not at risk for dying from it, how big a deal can it really be?

Totally self-absorbed.

NP. That's not how I read this at all. This person is saying that the war analogy is a very bad one. This disease and it's worst outcomes are not at all random. They never were even in March 2020. In May 2023, the worst outcomes even for the weakest among us are largely (not entirely) avoidable even for the elderly and sick if they avail themselves of vaccines and treatments. Re-read the bolded sentence. That is this person's point and I agree 100 percent.

Dead fathers and brothers, mothers and daughters are real losses. Even if they are beyond what you see as their peak years of productivity.

Are you Republican? I find you survival of the fittest/Lord of the Flies mindset to be sickening.

My brother died of COVID the first month of the pandemic. Vaccines were not available for the first year it was spreading.

But go ahead and feel superior because you did not die. Those weak, useless grandparents, and kids with cancer or other chronic illnesses. good riddance.

You read the wrong bolded sentence.

Probably the saddest outcome of covid...the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks

Multiple things can be true at once. It's terrible people died. I know some. It can also be true that many people were never at much risk and behaved as if they were (and still do) because they were and are bad at assessing risk.

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Once - Jan 2023

We are generally careful but one of my kids got it from a friend.

[Anonymous]

Once for everyone in my family 5 (all in 2022).

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Anonymous wrote:I've had it one time so far, in March 2023.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

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And teachers in states that were open died at unprecedented rates.

Live in your web of lies.

Where is the data on this? How do you know they died of covid at rates higher than other professions in these open states?

The death rates are easily found. Google is your friend. Compare Fla to Maryland. It’s sad his many senseless deaths there were.

Also look at the death rates of grocery store workers and people working in warehouses.. especially for food. The rate of death is double those who could stay safe at home.

Ignorance is bliss apparently.

So the answer is teachers didn't die at higher rates than other professions in these open states. The answer is there were many other professions that died at higher rates (police, fire, health industry, restaurant and hotel industry, warehouse workers..people who are forced to be in genuine close proximity to others through the nature of their job) and in every state people who could hole up in their house fared much better.

No one is ignorant that people who could stay at home were safer and pretty sure most of the people on this board fall squarely in that category so get over yourself with your moralizing lectures and remind yourself of all the instacart shopping and takeout you used while zooming in your pajamas.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

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And teachers in states that were open died at unprecedented rates.

Live in your web of lies.

Where is the data on this? How do you know they died of covid at rates higher than other professions in these open states?

The death rates are easily found. Google is your friend. Compare Fla to Maryland. It’s sad his many senseless deaths there were.

Also look at the death rates of grocery store workers and people working in warehouses.. especially for food. The rate of death is double those who could stay safe at home.

Ignorance is bliss apparently.

So the answer is teachers didn't die at higher rates than other professions in these open states. The answer is there were many other professions that died at higher rates (police, fire, health industry, restaurant and hotel industry, warehouse workers..people who are forced to be in genuine close proximity to others through the nature of their job) and in every state people who could hole up in their house fared much better.

No one is ignorant that people who could stay at home were safer and pretty sure most of the people on this board fall squarely in that category so get over yourself with your moralizing lectures and remind yourself of all the instacart shopping and takeout you used while zooming in your pajamas.

Here's a report. Teachers actually fared really well.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr71/nvsr71-06.pdf

Comparing death rates in open states vs closed states is an entirely different topic and comparing death rates to Florida is useless because of the elderly population there. You'd need to show a study that adequately controlled for all those variables.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Lies
And teachers in states that were open died at unprecedented rates.

Live in your web of lies.

Where is the data on this? How do you know they died of covid at rates higher than other professions in these open states?

The death rates are easily found. Google is your friend. Compare Fla to Maryland. It’s sad his many senseless deaths there were.

Also look at the death rates of grocery store workers and people working in warehouses.. especially for food. The rate of death is double those who could stay safe at home.

Ignorance is bliss apparently.

So the answer is teachers didn't die at higher rates than other professions in these open states. The answer is there were many other professions that died at higher rates (police, fire, health industry, restaurant and hotel industry, warehouse workers..people who are forced to be in genuine close proximity to others through the nature of their job) and in every state people who could hole up in their house fared much better.

No one is ignorant that people who could stay at home were safer and pretty sure most of the people on this board fall squarely in that category so get over yourself with your moralizing lectures and remind yourself of all the instacart shopping and takeout you used while zooming in your pajamas.

Teachers were among the many professions that died at a higher rate including day care workers, warehouse workers. Etc.

Teachers who taught by zoom died at a lower rate.

So we agree those who could stay home were safer and teacher who could not stay home were not safer.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Do you hear yourself?

You are basically saying if I am not at risk for dying from it, how big a deal can it really be?

Totally self-absorbed.

NP. That's not how I read this at all. This person is saying that the war analogy is a very bad one. This disease and it's worst outcomes are not at all random. They never were even in March 2020. In May 2023, the worst outcomes even for the weakest among us are largely (not entirely) avoidable even for the elderly and sick if they avail themselves of vaccines and treatments. Re-read the bolded sentence. That is this person's point and I agree 100 percent.

March 2020 are you insane.

Healthy adults died in the parking lots in NY of COVID.

It was not unavoidable if you had to pay bills and go to work.

I agree the vaccine saved lives but the vaccine deniers have killed more people than gun violence.

I'd like a citation for the healthy adults dropping dead of COVID in the parking lots of New York, especially as the emergency field hospitals ended up never being used.

I do agree (fully!) that vaccines saved lives. But that is a different situation entirely. Vaccination or not, COVID killed primarily unhealthy older people. Random healthy younger people who died of COVID are very rare. Today, with both vaccinations and treatments, few people are at risk of suffering badly from COVID and that is why it is not a public topic any more. But it will, and it will always, affect the elderly and very sick, just as the elderly and very sick died of the flu before COVID came along. Even if they are vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Lies
And teachers in states that were open died at unprecedented rates.

Live in your web of lies.

Where is the data on this? How do you know they died of covid at rates higher than other professions in these open states?

The death rates are easily found. Google is your friend. Compare Fla to Maryland. It’s sad his many senseless deaths there were.

Also look at the death rates of grocery store workers and people working in warehouses.. especially for food. The rate of death is double those who could stay safe at home.

Ignorance is bliss apparently.

So the answer is teachers didn't die at higher rates than other professions in these open states. The answer is there were many other professions that died at higher rates (police, fire, health industry, restaurant and hotel industry, warehouse workers..people who are forced to be in genuine close proximity to others through the nature of their job) and in every state people who could hole up in their house fared much better.

No one is ignorant that people who could stay at home were safer and pretty sure most of the people on this board fall squarely in that category so get over yourself with your moralizing lectures and remind yourself of all the instacart shopping and takeout you used while zooming in your pajamas.

Teachers were among the many professions that died at a higher rate including day care workers, warehouse workers. Etc.

Teachers who taught by zoom died at a lower rate.

So we agree those who could stay home were safer and teacher who could not stay home were not safer.

The bolded is just flat out not true. Teachers are not child care workers. Teachers actually fared very well. Google to find news coverage of this topic or look at the study the person posted previously.

There is no evidence that teachers who taught by zoom died at a lower rate than teachers who did not. In fact there was a lot more data out there during the whether to open school debates that schools were not drivers of spreading covid when they were open but merely reflected community spread if and when it was happening.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Lies
And teachers in states that were open died at unprecedented rates.

Live in your web of lies.

Where is the data on this? How do you know they died of covid at rates higher than other professions in these open states?

The death rates are easily found. Google is your friend. Compare Fla to Maryland. It’s sad his many senseless deaths there were.

Also look at the death rates of grocery store workers and people working in warehouses.. especially for food. The rate of death is double those who could stay safe at home.

Ignorance is bliss apparently.

So the answer is teachers didn't die at higher rates than other professions in these open states. The answer is there were many other professions that died at higher rates (police, fire, health industry, restaurant and hotel industry, warehouse workers..people who are forced to be in genuine close proximity to others through the nature of their job) and in every state people who could hole up in their house fared much better.

No one is ignorant that people who could stay at home were safer and pretty sure most of the people on this board fall squarely in that category so get over yourself with your moralizing lectures and remind yourself of all the instacart shopping and takeout you used while zooming in your pajamas.

Teachers were among the many professions that died at a higher rate including day care workers, warehouse workers. Etc.

Teachers who taught by zoom died at a lower rate.

So we agree those who could stay home were safer and teacher who could not stay home were not safer.

The bolded is just flat out not true. Teachers are not child care workers. Teachers actually fared very well. Google to find news coverage of this topic or look at the study the person posted previously.

There is no evidence that teachers who taught by zoom died at a lower rate than teachers who did not. In fact there was a lot more data out there during the whether to open school debates that schools were not drivers of spreading covid when they were open but merely reflected community spread if and when it was happening.

Google Texas teacher death rate to see your assertion is wrong.

Educators… died at a higher rate than professionals but lower than childcare. But educators include board of education, trainers, teacher who could use zoom and curriculum writers

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Do you hear yourself?

You are basically saying if I am not at risk for dying from it, how big a deal can it really be?

Totally self-absorbed.

NP. That's not how I read this at all. This person is saying that the war analogy is a very bad one. This disease and it's worst outcomes are not at all random. They never were even in March 2020. In May 2023, the worst outcomes even for the weakest among us are largely (not entirely) avoidable even for the elderly and sick if they avail themselves of vaccines and treatments. Re-read the bolded sentence. That is this person's point and I agree 100 percent.

March 2020 are you insane.

Healthy adults died in the parking lots in NY of COVID.

It was not unavoidable if you had to pay bills and go to work.

I agree the vaccine saved lives but the vaccine deniers have killed more people than gun violence.

I'd like a citation for the healthy adults dropping dead of COVID in the parking lots of New York, especially as the emergency field hospitals ended up never being used.

I do agree (fully!) that vaccines saved lives. But that is a different situation entirely. Vaccination or not, COVID killed primarily unhealthy older people. Random healthy younger people who died of COVID are very rare. Today, with both vaccinations and treatments, few people are at risk of suffering badly from COVID and that is why it is not a public topic any more. But it will, and it will always, affect the elderly and very sick, just as the elderly and very sick died of the flu before COVID came along. Even if they are vaccinated.

It’s like you forgot March 2020-July 2020 … with refrigeration trucks full of bodies.

Yes people went to emergency rooms unable to breathe and could not be seen by a dr.

Is this cognitive dissonance or fo you have early onset?

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

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And teachers in states that were open died at unprecedented rates.

Live in your web of lies.

Where is the data on this? How do you know they died of covid at rates higher than other professions in these open states?

The death rates are easily found. Google is your friend. Compare Fla to Maryland. It’s sad his many senseless deaths there were.

Also look at the death rates of grocery store workers and people working in warehouses.. especially for food. The rate of death is double those who could stay safe at home.

Ignorance is bliss apparently.

So the answer is teachers didn't die at higher rates than other professions in these open states. The answer is there were many other professions that died at higher rates (police, fire, health industry, restaurant and hotel industry, warehouse workers..people who are forced to be in genuine close proximity to others through the nature of their job) and in every state people who could hole up in their house fared much better.

No one is ignorant that people who could stay at home were safer and pretty sure most of the people on this board fall squarely in that category so get over yourself with your moralizing lectures and remind yourself of all the instacart shopping and takeout you used while zooming in your pajamas.

Teachers were among the many professions that died at a higher rate including day care workers, warehouse workers. Etc.

Teachers who taught by zoom died at a lower rate.

So we agree those who could stay home were safer and teacher who could not stay home were not safer.

The bolded is just flat out not true. Teachers are not child care workers. Teachers actually fared very well. Google to find news coverage of this topic or look at the study the person posted previously.

There is no evidence that teachers who taught by zoom died at a lower rate than teachers who did not. In fact there was a lot more data out there during the whether to open school debates that schools were not drivers of spreading covid when they were open but merely reflected community spread if and when it was happening.

Google Texas teacher death rate to see your assertion is wrong.

Educators… died at a higher rate than professionals but lower than childcare. But educators include board of education, trainers, teacher who could use zoom and curriculum writers

Okay, I found the one study you're talking about and lots of holes were poked in it.

The other study linked to is 46 states and NYC and was done by CDC. You're making far too broad of a claim with the data you have.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Do you hear yourself?

You are basically saying if I am not at risk for dying from it, how big a deal can it really be?

Totally self-absorbed.

NP. That's not how I read this at all. This person is saying that the war analogy is a very bad one. This disease and it's worst outcomes are not at all random. They never were even in March 2020. In May 2023, the worst outcomes even for the weakest among us are largely (not entirely) avoidable even for the elderly and sick if they avail themselves of vaccines and treatments. Re-read the bolded sentence. That is this person's point and I agree 100 percent.

March 2020 are you insane.

Healthy adults died in the parking lots in NY of COVID.

It was not unavoidable if you had to pay bills and go to work.

I agree the vaccine saved lives but the vaccine deniers have killed more people than gun violence.

I'd like a citation for the healthy adults dropping dead of COVID in the parking lots of New York, especially as the emergency field hospitals ended up never being used.

I do agree (fully!) that vaccines saved lives. But that is a different situation entirely. Vaccination or not, COVID killed primarily unhealthy older people. Random healthy younger people who died of COVID are very rare. Today, with both vaccinations and treatments, few people are at risk of suffering badly from COVID and that is why it is not a public topic any more. But it will, and it will always, affect the elderly and very sick, just as the elderly and very sick died of the flu before COVID came along. Even if they are vaccinated.

It’s like you forgot March 2020-July 2020 … with refrigeration trucks full of bodies.

Yes people went to emergency rooms unable to breathe and could not be seen by a dr.

Is this cognitive dissonance or fo you have early onset?

NP and this is non-responsive to the previous post.