Is it time to end the 50% rule in math?

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Anonymous wrote:Private school parent here. Our school doesn't allow students to advance if they don't master the previous course. Hence, after a year of virtual learning during covid, most students who were doing Algebra I in 7th grade had to repeat it in 8th grade. Luckily we entered the school in HS and my daughter (who was in person entire 20-21 school year) tested into Algebra 2 for 9th grade while most 9th graders are doing geometry. She's doing great, but is only one of two 9th graders in her class. What's great is the class is rigorous and not dumbed down to accommodate other 9th graders who didn't master previous material.

Public schools used to be so good with math, but I fear those days are ending. My older child did MCPS through 8th grade years ago and had an excellent preparation for HS math.


Yawn, you keep posting about your private school the has no relevance to MCPS. Many kids did just fine in Algebra virtually, like mine. Maybe there is an issue with your private school if your child had to repeat a class. Or, why didn't you help them or get a tutor or have them do a summer prep or review class? Algebra 2 is nothing to brag about in 9th. Some of our kids are doing Algebra 2 in 8th.


I didn't say my kid had to repeat. I said the kids who were in this particular school for middle school had to repeat. My daughter was in person in another school for middle school and enrolled in this school for 9th. They did the right thing. Kids who aren't prepared for the material will only hold back those who are.

You are correct--SOME students do Alg. 2 in 8th, but it is very rare...especially now that kids are so far behind in math. I guess you haven't been reading all the stories about the horrendous test scores. Yes, some kids are fine and maybe yours is fine, but the majority ARE NOT FINE. MCPS just pushes kids through regardless of whether or not they have mastered material. We all know this.

You claim MANY kids did just find virtually in Algebra I...what does many mean? It should be most, not many. If not, then the kids who didn't do ok should repeat Alg. I so they don't hold back the kids who are actually well prepared for Alg. II.


You should question how well your private is doing if that many kids need to repeat.

The majority of kids are fine. The real issue for MCPS is the teaching style, lack of textbook and curriculum and lack of reinforcement via homework and classwork and the little they have is never reviewed in class. However, MCPS has offered free tutoring for two years both in person and virtually and has been back in person for two years so blaming covid/virtual at this point is silly.

Your private clearly isn't that good or taking the cream of the crop of students if some of our kids are far more advanced in math and doing better.


Here's the thing. The private school actually dives deep into content vs. what MCPS does, which is basically brushing the surface of everything. Any kid who was in virtual classes for an entire year would likely not have covered enough to get to the next level and truly excel in the material. The private school is being realistic and working to have students succeed vs. pushing them all through. This private school is one of the top 10 in the state, so not sure how you can say it is not good. Ranked higher than the W schools.


No, they don’t but keep telling yourself that. My kids have been in virtual for three years. We’ve done both public and private school. For math public is much better.


Not anymore, but keep telling yourself that. Like I said, our private HS is ranked above all W schools. Many students getting into top 20 schools...like 25-30% of the graduating seniors typically go to top 20 and many get into top engineering programs. I don't think you can say that about any W school. By the way, we're zoned for Churchill.

LOL. Which private school is that?


Maryland high schools ranked. One of the ones at the top. And the math is better.


Left the link off. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/s/maryland/

???? You cannot be that dumb ? Actually you can and you are.
Look at your link again and figure it out if you can.


I will add to this, you are dumb if you can't figure out what school by process of elimination. Also, if you include entire DMV, you will find that there are many many private schools ranked higher than MCPS schools. Boy you really are dumb. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/?gradeLevel=high&type=traditional&type=charter&type=magnet&type=private

My goodness !!!
You are really that dumb. You still cannot figure out your own link.
Let me give you a clue : They don't rank private and public schools together.
Now, try again


They actually do. Just check all the boxes. See how that works?

No, it does not. You're dumb like a brick.
Try again


Even google is smarter than you are. https://www.google.com/search?q=niche+maryland+high+schools+ranked&oq=nich&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i59j46i199i433i465i512j69i60l4.1338j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


Yes, if you google best high schools in Maryland, this link comes up. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/s/maryland/

This is how it shows in in google.



Gosh you're dumb. The sad thing is you're still doubling down on your dumbness even after you were given help. You still failed to figure it out. You're hopeless


NP, while I think the private school parent is insufferable with her rankings, she is right about the link she posted, which ranks all schools together. Not sure why you are being so stubborn.

The link does not say what you and she think it says. The link lists best HS in MD but not ranking all the schools together. That's why it says "#1 best private school in MD", or "#1 best public schools in MD" etc... It distinguishes private schools from public schools, otherwise it would have just said "#1, 2, 3, 4, 5...in MD".
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Anonymous wrote:Private school parent here. Our school doesn't allow students to advance if they don't master the previous course. Hence, after a year of virtual learning during covid, most students who were doing Algebra I in 7th grade had to repeat it in 8th grade. Luckily we entered the school in HS and my daughter (who was in person entire 20-21 school year) tested into Algebra 2 for 9th grade while most 9th graders are doing geometry. She's doing great, but is only one of two 9th graders in her class. What's great is the class is rigorous and not dumbed down to accommodate other 9th graders who didn't master previous material.

Public schools used to be so good with math, but I fear those days are ending. My older child did MCPS through 8th grade years ago and had an excellent preparation for HS math.


Yawn, you keep posting about your private school the has no relevance to MCPS. Many kids did just fine in Algebra virtually, like mine. Maybe there is an issue with your private school if your child had to repeat a class. Or, why didn't you help them or get a tutor or have them do a summer prep or review class? Algebra 2 is nothing to brag about in 9th. Some of our kids are doing Algebra 2 in 8th.


I didn't say my kid had to repeat. I said the kids who were in this particular school for middle school had to repeat. My daughter was in person in another school for middle school and enrolled in this school for 9th. They did the right thing. Kids who aren't prepared for the material will only hold back those who are.

You are correct--SOME students do Alg. 2 in 8th, but it is very rare...especially now that kids are so far behind in math. I guess you haven't been reading all the stories about the horrendous test scores. Yes, some kids are fine and maybe yours is fine, but the majority ARE NOT FINE. MCPS just pushes kids through regardless of whether or not they have mastered material. We all know this.

You claim MANY kids did just find virtually in Algebra I...what does many mean? It should be most, not many. If not, then the kids who didn't do ok should repeat Alg. I so they don't hold back the kids who are actually well prepared for Alg. II.


You should question how well your private is doing if that many kids need to repeat.

The majority of kids are fine. The real issue for MCPS is the teaching style, lack of textbook and curriculum and lack of reinforcement via homework and classwork and the little they have is never reviewed in class. However, MCPS has offered free tutoring for two years both in person and virtually and has been back in person for two years so blaming covid/virtual at this point is silly.

Your private clearly isn't that good or taking the cream of the crop of students if some of our kids are far more advanced in math and doing better.


Here's the thing. The private school actually dives deep into content vs. what MCPS does, which is basically brushing the surface of everything. Any kid who was in virtual classes for an entire year would likely not have covered enough to get to the next level and truly excel in the material. The private school is being realistic and working to have students succeed vs. pushing them all through. This private school is one of the top 10 in the state, so not sure how you can say it is not good. Ranked higher than the W schools.


No, they don’t but keep telling yourself that. My kids have been in virtual for three years. We’ve done both public and private school. For math public is much better.


Not anymore, but keep telling yourself that. Like I said, our private HS is ranked above all W schools. Many students getting into top 20 schools...like 25-30% of the graduating seniors typically go to top 20 and many get into top engineering programs. I don't think you can say that about any W school. By the way, we're zoned for Churchill.

LOL. Which private school is that?


Maryland high schools ranked. One of the ones at the top. And the math is better.


Left the link off. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/s/maryland/

???? You cannot be that dumb ? Actually you can and you are.
Look at your link again and figure it out if you can.


I will add to this, you are dumb if you can't figure out what school by process of elimination. Also, if you include entire DMV, you will find that there are many many private schools ranked higher than MCPS schools. Boy you really are dumb. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/?gradeLevel=high&type=traditional&type=charter&type=magnet&type=private

My goodness !!!
You are really that dumb. You still cannot figure out your own link.
Let me give you a clue : They don't rank private and public schools together.
Now, try again


They actually do. Just check all the boxes. See how that works?

No, it does not. You're dumb like a brick.
Try again


Even google is smarter than you are. https://www.google.com/search?q=niche+maryland+high+schools+ranked&oq=nich&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i59j46i199i433i465i512j69i60l4.1338j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


Yes, if you google best high schools in Maryland, this link comes up. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/s/maryland/

This is how it shows in in google.



Gosh you're dumb. The sad thing is you're still doubling down on your dumbness even after you were given help. You still failed to figure it out. You're hopeless


NP, while I think the private school parent is insufferable with her rankings, she is right about the link she posted, which ranks all schools together. Not sure why you are being so stubborn.

The link does not say what you and she think it says. The link lists best HS in MD but not ranking all the schools together. That's why it says "#1 best private school in MD", or "#1 best public schools in MD" etc... It distinguishes private schools from public schools, otherwise it would have just said "#1, 2, 3, 4, 5...in MD".


Niche has a list that ranks every school #1. Give it a rest.
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Anonymous wrote:Private school parent here. Our school doesn't allow students to advance if they don't master the previous course. Hence, after a year of virtual learning during covid, most students who were doing Algebra I in 7th grade had to repeat it in 8th grade. Luckily we entered the school in HS and my daughter (who was in person entire 20-21 school year) tested into Algebra 2 for 9th grade while most 9th graders are doing geometry. She's doing great, but is only one of two 9th graders in her class. What's great is the class is rigorous and not dumbed down to accommodate other 9th graders who didn't master previous material.

Public schools used to be so good with math, but I fear those days are ending. My older child did MCPS through 8th grade years ago and had an excellent preparation for HS math.


Yawn, you keep posting about your private school the has no relevance to MCPS. Many kids did just fine in Algebra virtually, like mine. Maybe there is an issue with your private school if your child had to repeat a class. Or, why didn't you help them or get a tutor or have them do a summer prep or review class? Algebra 2 is nothing to brag about in 9th. Some of our kids are doing Algebra 2 in 8th.


I didn't say my kid had to repeat. I said the kids who were in this particular school for middle school had to repeat. My daughter was in person in another school for middle school and enrolled in this school for 9th. They did the right thing. Kids who aren't prepared for the material will only hold back those who are.

You are correct--SOME students do Alg. 2 in 8th, but it is very rare...especially now that kids are so far behind in math. I guess you haven't been reading all the stories about the horrendous test scores. Yes, some kids are fine and maybe yours is fine, but the majority ARE NOT FINE. MCPS just pushes kids through regardless of whether or not they have mastered material. We all know this.

You claim MANY kids did just find virtually in Algebra I...what does many mean? It should be most, not many. If not, then the kids who didn't do ok should repeat Alg. I so they don't hold back the kids who are actually well prepared for Alg. II.


You should question how well your private is doing if that many kids need to repeat.

The majority of kids are fine. The real issue for MCPS is the teaching style, lack of textbook and curriculum and lack of reinforcement via homework and classwork and the little they have is never reviewed in class. However, MCPS has offered free tutoring for two years both in person and virtually and has been back in person for two years so blaming covid/virtual at this point is silly.

Your private clearly isn't that good or taking the cream of the crop of students if some of our kids are far more advanced in math and doing better.


Here's the thing. The private school actually dives deep into content vs. what MCPS does, which is basically brushing the surface of everything. Any kid who was in virtual classes for an entire year would likely not have covered enough to get to the next level and truly excel in the material. The private school is being realistic and working to have students succeed vs. pushing them all through. This private school is one of the top 10 in the state, so not sure how you can say it is not good. Ranked higher than the W schools.


No, they don’t but keep telling yourself that. My kids have been in virtual for three years. We’ve done both public and private school. For math public is much better.


Not anymore, but keep telling yourself that. Like I said, our private HS is ranked above all W schools. Many students getting into top 20 schools...like 25-30% of the graduating seniors typically go to top 20 and many get into top engineering programs. I don't think you can say that about any W school. By the way, we're zoned for Churchill.

LOL. Which private school is that?


Maryland high schools ranked. One of the ones at the top. And the math is better.


Left the link off. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/s/maryland/

???? You cannot be that dumb ? Actually you can and you are.
Look at your link again and figure it out if you can.


I will add to this, you are dumb if you can't figure out what school by process of elimination. Also, if you include entire DMV, you will find that there are many many private schools ranked higher than MCPS schools. Boy you really are dumb. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/?gradeLevel=high&type=traditional&type=charter&type=magnet&type=private

My goodness !!!
You are really that dumb. You still cannot figure out your own link.
Let me give you a clue : They don't rank private and public schools together.
Now, try again


They actually do. Just check all the boxes. See how that works?

No, it does not. You're dumb like a brick.
Try again


Even google is smarter than you are. https://www.google.com/search?q=niche+maryland+high+schools+ranked&oq=nich&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i59j46i199i433i465i512j69i60l4.1338j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


Yes, if you google best high schools in Maryland, this link comes up. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/s/maryland/

This is how it shows in in google.



Gosh you're dumb. The sad thing is you're still doubling down on your dumbness even after you were given help. You still failed to figure it out. You're hopeless


NP, while I think the private school parent is insufferable with her rankings, she is right about the link she posted, which ranks all schools together. Not sure why you are being so stubborn.

The link does not say what you and she think it says. The link lists best HS in MD but not ranking all the schools together. That's why it says "#1 best private school in MD", or "#1 best public schools in MD" etc... It distinguishes private schools from public schools, otherwise it would have just said "#1, 2, 3, 4, 5...in MD".


Correct to the above. The data is broken out by Private and Public.
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Anonymous wrote:Private school parent here. Our school doesn't allow students to advance if they don't master the previous course. Hence, after a year of virtual learning during covid, most students who were doing Algebra I in 7th grade had to repeat it in 8th grade. Luckily we entered the school in HS and my daughter (who was in person entire 20-21 school year) tested into Algebra 2 for 9th grade while most 9th graders are doing geometry. She's doing great, but is only one of two 9th graders in her class. What's great is the class is rigorous and not dumbed down to accommodate other 9th graders who didn't master previous material.

Public schools used to be so good with math, but I fear those days are ending. My older child did MCPS through 8th grade years ago and had an excellent preparation for HS math.


Yawn, you keep posting about your private school the has no relevance to MCPS. Many kids did just fine in Algebra virtually, like mine. Maybe there is an issue with your private school if your child had to repeat a class. Or, why didn't you help them or get a tutor or have them do a summer prep or review class? Algebra 2 is nothing to brag about in 9th. Some of our kids are doing Algebra 2 in 8th.


I didn't say my kid had to repeat. I said the kids who were in this particular school for middle school had to repeat. My daughter was in person in another school for middle school and enrolled in this school for 9th. They did the right thing. Kids who aren't prepared for the material will only hold back those who are.

You are correct--SOME students do Alg. 2 in 8th, but it is very rare...especially now that kids are so far behind in math. I guess you haven't been reading all the stories about the horrendous test scores. Yes, some kids are fine and maybe yours is fine, but the majority ARE NOT FINE. MCPS just pushes kids through regardless of whether or not they have mastered material. We all know this.

You claim MANY kids did just find virtually in Algebra I...what does many mean? It should be most, not many. If not, then the kids who didn't do ok should repeat Alg. I so they don't hold back the kids who are actually well prepared for Alg. II.


You should question how well your private is doing if that many kids need to repeat.

The majority of kids are fine. The real issue for MCPS is the teaching style, lack of textbook and curriculum and lack of reinforcement via homework and classwork and the little they have is never reviewed in class. However, MCPS has offered free tutoring for two years both in person and virtually and has been back in person for two years so blaming covid/virtual at this point is silly.

Your private clearly isn't that good or taking the cream of the crop of students if some of our kids are far more advanced in math and doing better.


Here's the thing. The private school actually dives deep into content vs. what MCPS does, which is basically brushing the surface of everything. Any kid who was in virtual classes for an entire year would likely not have covered enough to get to the next level and truly excel in the material. The private school is being realistic and working to have students succeed vs. pushing them all through. This private school is one of the top 10 in the state, so not sure how you can say it is not good. Ranked higher than the W schools.


No, they don’t but keep telling yourself that. My kids have been in virtual for three years. We’ve done both public and private school. For math public is much better.


Not anymore, but keep telling yourself that. Like I said, our private HS is ranked above all W schools. Many students getting into top 20 schools...like 25-30% of the graduating seniors typically go to top 20 and many get into top engineering programs. I don't think you can say that about any W school. By the way, we're zoned for Churchill.

LOL. Which private school is that?


Maryland high schools ranked. One of the ones at the top. And the math is better.


Left the link off. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/s/maryland/

???? You cannot be that dumb ? Actually you can and you are.
Look at your link again and figure it out if you can.


I will add to this, you are dumb if you can't figure out what school by process of elimination. Also, if you include entire DMV, you will find that there are many many private schools ranked higher than MCPS schools. Boy you really are dumb. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/?gradeLevel=high&type=traditional&type=charter&type=magnet&type=private

My goodness !!!
You are really that dumb. You still cannot figure out your own link.
Let me give you a clue : They don't rank private and public schools together.
Now, try again


They actually do. Just check all the boxes. See how that works?

No, it does not. You're dumb like a brick.
Try again


Even google is smarter than you are. https://www.google.com/search?q=niche+maryland+high+schools+ranked&oq=nich&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i59j46i199i433i465i512j69i60l4.1338j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


Yes, if you google best high schools in Maryland, this link comes up. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/s/maryland/

This is how it shows in in google.



Gosh you're dumb. The sad thing is you're still doubling down on your dumbness even after you were given help. You still failed to figure it out. You're hopeless


NP, while I think the private school parent is insufferable with her rankings, she is right about the link she posted, which ranks all schools together. Not sure why you are being so stubborn.

The link does not say what you and she think it says. The link lists best HS in MD but not ranking all the schools together. That's why it says "#1 best private school in MD", or "#1 best public schools in MD" etc... It distinguishes private schools from public schools, otherwise it would have just said "#1, 2, 3, 4, 5...in MD".


OMG you are beyond dense. You do realize a ranking can reference a separate ranking within the overall ranking. The order is legitimate and niche even advertises it as such. Just let it go and admit you are wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:Teachers make decent money compared to similar professions that work 12 vs. 10 months. They have a contract that specifies the number of work days to income and that is what it is. However, you aren't going to get top people to teach at a HS for that income as anyone good at what they do wants a professional job with more income.


Teachers don't work for 10 months. Maybe 9 if you're being generous. Most are out a couple of times a month it's comparable to 160-170 days/year tops.


As a PP already stated, teachers work 193 duty days from 8/22/22 to 6/20/23 this year. That is 10 months.


Maybe they're supposed to but my kids teacher are out at least 3-4 times search month so it ends up being a lot less.


I hope someone is counting how many days you're absent from work and telling people you don't truly work year round due to that. *massive eyeroll*

And all that work that grades itself after hours, too.


It's almost like a real job with multiple week-long breaks and summers off.

Everyone thought teaching was so easy. Then Covid happened and parents got stuck with kid or three at home - and couldn't wait to get them back in schools.

Now everyone thinks they know how to fix teaching. But are terrified of being teachers themselves.


Some of our kids are still home.
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Anonymous wrote:Teachers make decent money compared to similar professions that work 12 vs. 10 months. They have a contract that specifies the number of work days to income and that is what it is. However, you aren't going to get top people to teach at a HS for that income as anyone good at what they do wants a professional job with more income.


Teachers don't work for 10 months. Maybe 9 if you're being generous. Most are out a couple of times a month it's comparable to 160-170 days/year tops.


As a PP already stated, teachers work 193 duty days from 8/22/22 to 6/20/23 this year. That is 10 months.


Maybe they're supposed to but my kids teacher are out at least 3-4 times search month so it ends up being a lot less.


I hope someone is counting how many days you're absent from work and telling people you don't truly work year round due to that. *massive eyeroll*

And all that work that grades itself after hours, too.


It's almost like a real job with multiple week-long breaks and summers off.


So edgy, disrespecting teachers. You seem to be jealous and fixated on the breaks. Get yourself a better job and stop whining about other professions on the Internet. Fix your own situation. You’re worse than a child, Jesus.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does the 50% rule matter again?


It doesn't. I have no idea why OP is so concerned about other people's children passing with Ds.


It is the biggest question of our time!!! OMG!


These must be middle schoolers. Some of us don't want to support you when you grow up.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does the 50% rule matter again?


It doesn't. I have no idea why OP is so concerned about other people's children passing with Ds.


It is the biggest question of our time!!! OMG!


These must be middle schoolers. Some of us don't want to support you when you grow up.


That's why we needs the 50% rule!
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It would be nice if admin gave teachers the 50percent rule when judging us on our performance bc the kids are a nightmare and they give no support as we work 80 hrs per week. Their reviews are always punitive and arbitrary. Don't they know we went in massive debt for this scam.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does the 50% rule matter again?


It doesn't. I have no idea why OP is so concerned about other people's children passing with Ds.


It is the biggest question of our time!!! OMG!


These must be middle schoolers. Some of us don't want to support you when you grow up.


That's why we needs the 50% rule!


The reason that the 50% rule is a problem is that it is misleading.

Grades are not the goal of school. Learning is the goal. Grades are just a rough indicator of whether that learning is taking place. Having a 50% minimum when the student knows 0% of the content may support their grade, but it sabotages learning by indicating that the student knows more than they actually do. In order to fix the problem, people need to recognize the true extent of the problem.

MCPS seems more invested in preserving their reputation as “one of the best school systems in the country” than to actually educating kids. When the methods MCPS uses are unsuccessful, rather than changing course to fix the problem, they change metrics to hide the problem. So, the grading system which parents use to evaluate their child’s learning progress involves:

homework which is often checked for completion rather than correctness
home that when it is actually graded has a 50% minimum
tests that can be retaken for a higher grade
finals that were abolished because too many students were failing

That’s not even counting writing assignments where teachers are supposed to only focus on a few issues at a time rather than identifying all problems (which would be too discouraging). But at least their papers get a lot of peer review/editing from peers who may not know any more, if as much, as the original writer.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does the 50% rule matter again?


It doesn't. I have no idea why OP is so concerned about other people's children passing with Ds.


It is the biggest question of our time!!! OMG!


These must be middle schoolers. Some of us don't want to support you when you grow up.


That's why we needs the 50% rule!


The reason that the 50% rule is a problem is that it is misleading.

Grades are not the goal of school. Learning is the goal. Grades are just a rough indicator of whether that learning is taking place. Having a 50% minimum when the student knows 0% of the content may support their grade, but it sabotages learning by indicating that the student knows more than they actually do. In order to fix the problem, people need to recognize the true extent of the problem.

MCPS seems more invested in preserving their reputation as “one of the best school systems in the country” than to actually educating kids. When the methods MCPS uses are unsuccessful, rather than changing course to fix the problem, they change metrics to hide the problem. So, the grading system which parents use to evaluate their child’s learning progress involves:

homework which is often checked for completion rather than correctness
home that when it is actually graded has a 50% minimum
tests that can be retaken for a higher grade
finals that were abolished because too many students were failing

That’s not even counting writing assignments where teachers are supposed to only focus on a few issues at a time rather than identifying all problems (which would be too discouraging). But at least their papers get a lot of peer review/editing from peers who may not know any more, if as much, as the original writer.


This is not true because what is assigned and how it graded is rather arbitrary, so 0 vs 50 carries minimal useful information. The useful information is "what the kid doesn't know" which is easy to read directly from the graded work, without the averaging formula.
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