Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?

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Anonymous wrote:That would require MD or VA to pay for DC’s homeless so that won’t happen as the states have plenty of their own too. Also how are you going to force them to go there? Many are from the city and it’s home to them. Where will they get their hooch and drugs? I don’t think it’s as simple as shoving them away. There is a huge system that needs fixing so we don’t have so many homeless people.

It could be done on a surplus federal military installation. Give the homeless a choice. Be arrested for camping on federal parkland in DC OR move to a federal installation where there will be provided with construction job skills and counseling. It should be piloted.

Ok. So more like an internment or work camp.

No. A jail diversion program where they could learn a life skill and/or get treatment.

Or, we could continue to fill the apartment buildings along Connecticut Avenue with them at $3000/month indefinitely.

Seems to be going well.

https://www.popville.com/2023/04/278585/

The goal is to get these people out of elite neighborhoods. Live your vote people.

Look, if we are truly committed to a “Ward 3 For All” then we all need to be good with the occasional daytime hammer attack. Check your privilege folks.

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Anonymous wrote:So how would they find job/rehabilitation while they’re out there in the middle of nowhere?

Employees would live on-site & security would be strong. On-site medical & addiction services. Busing back and forth to DC for additional resources.

In your model they would live there indefinitely. Like a prison sentence.

Don’t care as long as they’re not on the streets scaring prospective net-taxpayers away.

I feel badly for them, but still going about my day. Help when I can.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. It would be much more efficient to provide services to the homeless if they’re housed in one place.

They aren't children or prisoners. Many homeless (and adults in general) do not want others telling them what to do and where to go. Many are not looking for services or housing. They prefer to exist day to day.

Police should have an iron-fist approach

This won’t be necessary if it’s actually such a nice and lovely place with space and services.

Which, by the way, Salt Lake City has already tried the method of simply giving housing to the unhoused. It was remarkably successful. Of course it wasn’t a good solution for everyone, but it was massively successful for the large percent of people who truly do just need housing.

It turns out that a lot of the issues that many homeless people have, including mental illness, are triggered or exacerbated by the stress of being homeless. Putting people in homes means they have the stability to work on the other issues they have. And for many people, it solves them, because their main problem is that they don't have a home, meaning they don't have stability, they don't have an address to use when applying for jobs, it's harder to manage medications or medical conditions, etc. And then you have the harder cases, but it would be a lot easier to deal with them if the people who mostly just need housing had housing. But typically that housing isn't hours away from the place where all the jobs and services and people they know are.

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No one is going to want that staff position.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

This sounds very similar to the Florida and Texas plan for the undocumented.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. It would be much more efficient to provide services to the homeless if they’re housed in one place.

They aren't children or prisoners. Many homeless (and adults in general) do not want others telling them what to do and where to go. Many are not looking for services or housing. They prefer to exist day to day.

Police should have an iron-fist approach

This won’t be necessary if it’s actually such a nice and lovely place with space and services.

Which, by the way, Salt Lake City has already tried the method of simply giving housing to the unhoused. It was remarkably successful. Of course it wasn’t a good solution for everyone, but it was massively successful for the large percent of people who truly do just need housing.

It turns out that a lot of the issues that many homeless people have, including mental illness, are triggered or exacerbated by the stress of being homeless. Putting people in homes means they have the stability to work on the other issues they have. And for many people, it solves them, because their main problem is that they don't have a home, meaning they don't have stability, they don't have an address to use when applying for jobs, it's harder to manage medications or medical conditions, etc. And then you have the harder cases, but it would be a lot easier to deal with them if the people who mostly just need housing had housing. But typically that housing isn't hours away from the place where all the jobs and services and people they know are.

It turns out that paying rent or a mortgage contributes to a lot of the stress that adults have. If the government just gave everyone a free place to live then everyone can live stress free.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. It would be much more efficient to provide services to the homeless if they’re housed in one place.

They aren't children or prisoners. Many homeless (and adults in general) do not want others telling them what to do and where to go. Many are not looking for services or housing. They prefer to exist day to day.

Police should have an iron-fist approach

This won’t be necessary if it’s actually such a nice and lovely place with space and services.

Which, by the way, Salt Lake City has already tried the method of simply giving housing to the unhoused. It was remarkably successful. Of course it wasn’t a good solution for everyone, but it was massively successful for the large percent of people who truly do just need housing.

It turns out that a lot of the issues that many homeless people have, including mental illness, are triggered or exacerbated by the stress of being homeless. Putting people in homes means they have the stability to work on the other issues they have. And for many people, it solves them, because their main problem is that they don't have a home, meaning they don't have stability, they don't have an address to use when applying for jobs, it's harder to manage medications or medical conditions, etc. And then you have the harder cases, but it would be a lot easier to deal with them if the people who mostly just need housing had housing. But typically that housing isn't hours away from the place where all the jobs and services and people they know are.

It turns out that paying rent or a mortgage contributes to a lot of the stress that adults have. If the government just gave everyone a free place to live then everyone can live stress free.

If you don't like the stress from paying rent or a mortgage, you can always swap it out for the stress of being unhoused.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

Sure, let's just shuttle "them" iff to some wayward destination with no jobs, no medical care and no opportunity. What you are describing was called a concentration camp, OP.

No jobs? No opportunity? These people aren't capable of jobs and they don't have much opportunity in their lives already!

I guess we should be grateful the OP is only recommending concentration camps, vs. death camps.

OP is a soft maybe on the death camps

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

Yeah no we don’t want DCs homeless population. We are not the solution to a problem you created.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

Yeah no we don’t want DCs homeless population. We are not the solution to a problem you created.

You kind of are. There is a reason that people call PG the 9th ward

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

This sounds very similar to the Florida and Texas plan for the undocumented.

DC can charter buses as easily as Florida and Texas. Trade them homeless for refugees wanting to work

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Anonymous wrote:So how would they find job/rehabilitation while they’re out there in the middle of nowhere?

Employees would live on-site & security would be strong. On-site medical & addiction services. Busing back and forth to DC for additional resources.

In your model they would live there indefinitely. Like a prison sentence.

Don’t care as long as they’re not on the streets scaring prospective net-taxpayers away.

I feel badly for them, but still going about my day. Help when I can.

I ignore all of them.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

Yeah no we don’t want DCs homeless population. We are not the solution to a problem you created.

You kind of are. There is a reason that people call PG the 9th ward

PG wasn’t where OP was suggesting these people be sent. Many of us moved to exurbs because we didn’t enjoy the vibrance of DC and it’s close in suburbs and don’t agree that the mentally ill homeless should have the right to sh!t and piss anywhere they choose in public and make encampments in any available green space. We aren’t woke and so we have retreated chastened to the exurbs. Don’t send the problem to us because let’s be real our response is going to be jail.

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Anonymous wrote:Like reservations?

Think of them more like resorts.

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Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.

Yeah no we don’t want DCs homeless population. We are not the solution to a problem you created.

You kind of are. There is a reason that people call PG the 9th ward

PG wasn’t where OP was suggesting these people be sent. Many of us moved to exurbs because we didn’t enjoy the vibrance of DC and it’s close in suburbs and don’t agree that the mentally ill homeless should have the right to sh!t and piss anywhere they choose in public and make encampments in any available green space. We aren’t woke and so we have retreated chastened to the exurbs. Don’t send the problem to us because let’s be real our response is going to be jail.

Or self-defense via firearm.