Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:Assuming you aren't a troll, he probably thinks your career is a joke and has zero respect for the work you do. If you're ok with that, then you're fine.

Conservative here. Wrong. My mom was a doctor and my wife is a lawyer. I respect their work.

If you try to raise a daughter with a progressive partner, what do you do about your pro choice partner teaching your daughter to fight for pro choice values? There is no middle ground on this issue. You either belive you forced birther view must be imposed on everyone including your children, or you believe in choice.

Sorry, but you are so dumb. I am raising three daughters. I don't teach them to fight, at all. All three are very successful in their careers, two graduated from Ivy League schools. There is middle ground. They all have their own choices, we don't impose our choices on our daughters.

What country are you living in? They no longer have some fundamental.choices.

Don't worry, they do.

Ignorant. Maybe ask your daughters about something called roe v Wade. I had a constitutional right to an abortion for my entire life. Your daughters do not have this. They do not. And it affects many many things

And their daughters will not have it either unless we all get serious about this fight

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Anonymous wrote:I’m liberal and my h is conservative. We never had any problems…. But …

He never voted for trump
He thinks BLM
He thinks BLUE lives matter is racist
He believes in equality for all
He supports LGBT rights
He believes in smart gun laws (red flag laws, etc)

but he votes republican? ok.

Most the time but not always. He’s very thoughtful about his vote. So am I. I’ve voted for republicans when I thought it made sense.

Ok. Well then he is screwing over my daughters, sorry.

I doubt any of his vote “screwed over your daughter”. You have a very short memory if you think that. Also I hope your daughter is not one of the many sexually assaulted/harassed by democrats.

Also “talking about caring gif otters kids” how are you feeling about private jails… thanks Clinton.

No way we will be distracted from the disaster that is over turning roe. That is a fundamental assault on one of the most critical rights the citizens of this country used to hold. This fight is on and you are in or you are out.

Again. Democrats should have codified when they had a chance. They didn’t .. that’s on them. They put women last, again.

Again. He did not vote for Trump.

Well the fight is on. Losing a constitutional right is an utter disaster and pollutes everything from fertility treatments, to birth control to pregnancy health care and beyond. Not voting for trump is not going to fix it.

Your the exact type of liberal that is the problem the same way trumpers are the problem not conservatives

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on how much conservative (more center or middle would be ideal. )- and find out his views on children, abortion. Been married to a conservative last 16 years and have to say they make great husbands and fathers long term.

please. Conservative men don't believe in equal housework and childcare.

I grew up in a conservative household.

Liberal men are much more aware of women's rights than conservative men, who really don't care much about women's rights.

Also, the highly educated tend to be liberal.

I disagree, I’m very liberal.

Conservative men fix things, take care of the lawn/yard, paint rooms, fix light fixtures, do the taxes, grill, take orders when there is a party, plan tail gates, do the dishes, take their plates to the sink, set up tvs, move furniture, coach kids sports teams, help with nighttime routine (anything family), etc.

Things are equal but fall on gender norm lines.

"takes their plate to the sink"..

OMG, is this sarcasm and a joke? Even my kids take their plates to the sink. Your post is hysterical.

Lots of liberal kids don’t.

lots of *kids* don't. But, the ^^PP thinks her conservative DH who takes his plate to the sink means he does half the housechores/childcare.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this thread has jumped the shark but I'll just dip in to say you can get all the "traditional masculinity" tailgating/lawnmowing/whatever else was on that 'I love crumbs' list upthread with little to none of the "batshit voting record" if you just cross white guys off your dating bingo card. Give it a try, OP. It worked for me! DH is more conservative than I am (with a small c) but the GOP doesn't want him and he doesn't want them either. No Fox/OAN indoctrination to guard against, just boring Joe Rogan podcast reports from time to time.

I am saying this factually: the pool of men who are not white who’ve A) never been incarcerated and B) will be allowed by their family to marry you is minuscule.

That's not factual, but it is super racist, so good for you! Given you cannot even read to realize that I am married to a [never incarcerated, wtf] POC whose family loves me to piece and vice versa, I shouldn't be shocked by the stupidity of this post. But if the goal was to point out another way that white men are undesirable by showcasing your racism: achieved.

It’s not “super racist,” in fact it is a legitimate issue that Black women face in dating when trying to date Black men.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m liberal and my h is conservative. We never had any problems…. But …

He never voted for trump
He thinks BLM
He thinks BLUE lives matter is racist
He believes in equality for all
He supports LGBT rights
He believes in smart gun laws (red flag laws, etc)

but he votes republican? ok.

Most the time but not always. He’s very thoughtful about his vote. So am I. I’ve voted for republicans when I thought it made sense.

Ok. Well then he is screwing over my daughters, sorry.

I doubt any of his vote “screwed over your daughter”. You have a very short memory if you think that. Also I hope your daughter is not one of the many sexually assaulted/harassed by democrats.

Also “talking about caring gif otters kids” how are you feeling about private jails… thanks Clinton.

No way we will be distracted from the disaster that is over turning roe. That is a fundamental assault on one of the most critical rights the citizens of this country used to hold. This fight is on and you are in or you are out.

Again. Democrats should have codified when they had a chance. They didn’t .. that’s on them. They put women last, again.

Again. He did not vote for Trump.

Well the fight is on. Losing a constitutional right is an utter disaster and pollutes everything from fertility treatments, to birth control to pregnancy health care and beyond. Not voting for trump is not going to fix it.

Your the exact type of liberal that is the problem the same way trumpers are the problem not conservatives

I am mature women. I have seen it all for myself or family or friends. Difficulty getting or staying pregnant. Rapes. Losing pregnancies. Abortions. Fertility issues. Emergency life threatening pregnancy complications. And on and on. You are ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on how much conservative (more center or middle would be ideal. )- and find out his views on children, abortion. Been married to a conservative last 16 years and have to say they make great husbands and fathers long term.

please. Conservative men don't believe in equal housework and childcare.

I grew up in a conservative household.

Liberal men are much more aware of women's rights than conservative men, who really don't care much about women's rights.

Also, the highly educated tend to be liberal.

I disagree, I’m very liberal.

Conservative men fix things, take care of the lawn/yard, paint rooms, fix light fixtures, do the taxes, grill, take orders when there is a party, plan tail gates, do the dishes, take their plates to the sink, set up tvs, move furniture, coach kids sports teams, help with nighttime routine (anything family), etc.

Things are equal but fall on gender norm lines.

haha .. my liberal DH does all of it, and cooks, not just grill, bakes, fixes all kinds of things (neighbors all come to him for help fixing stuff), and he's an engineer. But, I do the taxes.

Conservative men aren't doing much childcare or cooking and baking. Please.

Tail gate? LOL That's super important housework. LOL

You missed the point!

Yes conservative men to care for children but just not in the way you agree.

And southerners tailgate Friday night/Saturday and Sunday.

Grilling is cooking

You aren’t talking about conservatives you are talking about jerks. There are plenty of liberal men who can’t cut a lawn or install a light fixture.

I didn't miss the point. Conservative men mostly have traditional gender roles, and doing housechorse and childcare is a traditionally female's role. If you mean they care for their children by working, guess what.. most women work and do housechores/childcare, too.

I didn't realize Conservative only meant "southerners". LOL. I think you mean "traditional southern" people, not "conservatives". But, I'm sure you know that there are conservatives in other parts of the country,right? LOL

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I tend to avoid anyone who is too much into politics. It's a red flag that they have underlying issues. Happy, well adjusted people don't waste their time with this nonsense. It also demonstrates a lack of critical thinking skills, and that is a huge turn off.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on how much conservative (more center or middle would be ideal. )- and find out his views on children, abortion. Been married to a conservative last 16 years and have to say they make great husbands and fathers long term.

please. Conservative men don't believe in equal housework and childcare.

I grew up in a conservative household.

Liberal men are much more aware of women's rights than conservative men, who really don't care much about women's rights.

Also, the highly educated tend to be liberal.

Totally disagree. “Conservative” can apply to a lot of different types of people. My parents are what most people here would call conservative (observant Catholics who are pro-life, don’t support gay marriage, etc) and have an equal marriage. My dad respects my mom’s career and has always been her #1 supporter, encouraged her to go back to school to get her masters, etc. He was and is an incredible, hands-on father and now grandfather. I saw this dynamic in many of the households in our social circle growing up, which was made up of highly-educated Catholics like my parents (ie conservatives).

My highly educated observant Catholic parents are not conservative at all, are pro-choice and support LGBTQ+ rights and the environment. Your Opus Dei circle does not the Church make.

That said, OP, the people saying "this can work" are pointing to examples from generations past and a time when politics was not so very polarized. Look at the women telling you "I cannot speak to my spouse anymore because he has been radicalized by Fox News" (and then for a laugh, the conservative man saying "conservative men are live and let live in relationships" because he doesn't realize terrorizing your wife into silence is not peace), because that's the current situation.

I'm having a hard time believing that a person who works in women's rights would even post this topic, though.

OMG, drama much? The idea that your garden-variety Fox-watching conservative is “terrorizing his wife into silence” is some sort of bizarre feminist fever dream. How many married people do you know? The idea that any of the married guys that I know could or would “terrorize” their wife into anything is beyond absurd.

Women's lived experience = drama. Shocking.

Are you saying *you’ve* been terrorized into silence? If not, we aren’t talking about anyone’s lived experience then, are we? The women whose husbands have gone off the Fox deep end and have posted in this thread sound like they are annoyed and pissed off, not living in fear.

I am one of the PP's whose husband has "gone off the deep end." Terrorized into silence might be an extreme way to describe my experience, but it's not too far off. When any political discussion devolves into him exploding into rage and cursing that's certainly not living in harmony. Saying we all (me and our two kids) walk on eggshells is certainly an accurate description.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't get into a serious relationship with someone whose values don't align with yours. I am a liberal who was married to a "conservative", which was doable in the Bush/Gore era but was a dumpster fire by time Trump rolled around. If you are looking for casual and fun, sure, but I wouldn't plan a future with this guy.

This part. Everyone is playing shirts and skins these days, and as the GOP gets crazier the rank and file just gets crazy with them. Remember who we all kept being *certain* that sane, principled Republicans would vote against Trump, and they never appeared? They don't exist. This is as sane as this guy is going to be in your lifetime, and it's not a great sign that he's still calling himself conservative in a post-Trump, post-Roe, post-January 6, post-Qanon, post-trying-to-make-raped-11-y/o's-become-mothers era.

Abort. Pun intended.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:Assuming you aren't a troll, he probably thinks your career is a joke and has zero respect for the work you do. If you're ok with that, then you're fine.

Conservative here. Wrong. My mom was a doctor and my wife is a lawyer. I respect their work.

If you try to raise a daughter with a progressive partner, what do you do about your pro choice partner teaching your daughter to fight for pro choice values? There is no middle ground on this issue. You either belive you forced birther view must be imposed on everyone including your children, or you believe in choice.

Sorry, but you are so dumb. I am raising three daughters. I don't teach them to fight, at all. All three are very successful in their careers, two graduated from Ivy League schools. There is middle ground. They all have their own choices, we don't impose our choices on our daughters.

What country are you living in? They no longer have some fundamental.choices.

Don't worry, they do.

They do not. What are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m liberal and my h is conservative. We never had any problems…. But …

He never voted for trump
He thinks BLM
He thinks BLUE lives matter is racist
He believes in equality for all
He supports LGBT rights
He believes in smart gun laws (red flag laws, etc)

but he votes republican? ok.

Most the time but not always. He’s very thoughtful about his vote. So am I. I’ve voted for republicans when I thought it made sense.

Ok. Well then he is screwing over my daughters, sorry.

I doubt any of his vote “screwed over your daughter”. You have a very short memory if you think that. Also I hope your daughter is not one of the many sexually assaulted/harassed by democrats.

Also “talking about caring gif otters kids” how are you feeling about private jails… thanks Clinton.

No way we will be distracted from the disaster that is over turning roe. That is a fundamental assault on one of the most critical rights the citizens of this country used to hold. This fight is on and you are in or you are out.

Again. Democrats should have codified when they had a chance. They didn’t .. that’s on them. They put women last, again.

Again. He did not vote for Trump.

Well the fight is on. Losing a constitutional right is an utter disaster and pollutes everything from fertility treatments, to birth control to pregnancy health care and beyond. Not voting for trump is not going to fix it.

Your the exact type of liberal that is the problem the same way trumpers are the problem not conservatives

I am mature women. I have seen it all for myself or family or friends. Difficulty getting or staying pregnant. Rapes. Losing pregnancies. Abortions. Fertility issues. Emergency life threatening pregnancy complications. And on and on. You are ignorant.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Assuming you aren't a troll, he probably thinks your career is a joke and has zero respect for the work you do. If you're ok with that, then you're fine.

Conservative here. Wrong. My mom was a doctor and my wife is a lawyer. I respect their work.

If you try to raise a daughter with a progressive partner, what do you do about your pro choice partner teaching your daughter to fight for pro choice values? There is no middle ground on this issue. You either belive you forced birther view must be imposed on everyone including your children, or you believe in choice.

Sorry, but you are so dumb. I am raising three daughters. I don't teach them to fight, at all. All three are very successful in their careers, two graduated from Ivy League schools. There is middle ground. They all have their own choices, we don't impose our choices on our daughters.

What country are you living in? They no longer have some fundamental.choices.

Don't worry, they do.

They do not. What are you talking about?

Yes. Please explain. I don’t see what you are talking about either.

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Anonymous wrote:Assuming you aren't a troll, he probably thinks your career is a joke and has zero respect for the work you do. If you're ok with that, then you're fine.

Conservative here. Wrong. My mom was a doctor and my wife is a lawyer. I respect their work.

If you try to raise a daughter with a progressive partner, what do you do about your pro choice partner teaching your daughter to fight for pro choice values? There is no middle ground on this issue. You either belive you forced birther view must be imposed on everyone including your children, or you believe in choice.

Sorry, but you are so dumb. I am raising three daughters. I don't teach them to fight, at all. All three are very successful in their careers, two graduated from Ivy League schools. There is middle ground. They all have their own choices, we don't impose our choices on our daughters.

What country are you living in? They no longer have some fundamental.choices.

Don't worry, they do.

Idiot low-information Republican. Comical.

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Anonymous wrote:Assuming you aren't a troll, he probably thinks your career is a joke and has zero respect for the work you do. If you're ok with that, then you're fine.

Conservative here. Wrong. My mom was a doctor and my wife is a lawyer. I respect their work.

If you try to raise a daughter with a progressive partner, what do you do about your pro choice partner teaching your daughter to fight for pro choice values? There is no middle ground on this issue. You either belive you forced birther view must be imposed on everyone including your children, or you believe in choice.

Sorry, but you are so dumb. I am raising three daughters. I don't teach them to fight, at all. All three are very successful in their careers, two graduated from Ivy League schools. There is middle ground. They all have their own choices, we don't impose our choices on our daughters.

What country are you living in? They no longer have some fundamental.choices.

Don't worry, they do.

They do not. What are you talking about?

Yes. Please explain. I don’t see what you are talking about either.

Try to learn something: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/us/abortion-laws-roe-v-wade.html

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Don't date women who ramble on about pronouns, equal pay, gun control, BLM, etc. They are just repeating talking points and it will only get worse. Focus on women who are actually pleasant to be around.