MCPS closed tomorrow

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Anonymous wrote:I would to know how many schools do not have heat, water, and internet. My house has these things after the power comes back on.

Your house doesn’t have industrial systems that require 3-5 people working every day to keep running.

Lol these people lack basic understanding of how things work. Wait you mean an industrial heater doesn’t just turn back on?

I can’t believe how f’ing stupid people are.

They had hours from the time the power came back on to check things in the 44 affected schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would to know how many schools do not have heat, water, and internet. My house has these things after the power comes back on.

Your house doesn’t have industrial systems that require 3-5 people working every day to keep running.

Lol these people lack basic understanding of how things work. Wait you mean an industrial heater doesn’t just turn back on?

I can’t believe how f’ing stupid people are.

Schools have boilers jot electric heat. Talk about “stupid” look in a mirror!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would to know how many schools do not have heat, water, and internet. My house has these things after the power comes back on.

Your house doesn’t have industrial systems that require 3-5 people working every day to keep running.

Lol these people lack basic understanding of how things work. Wait you mean an industrial heater doesn’t just turn back on?

I can’t believe how f’ing stupid people are.

The industrial chillers and heaters in my data center turn back on automatically after a power outage. It's a mature technology that's fairly robust.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would to know how many schools do not have heat, water, and internet. My house has these things after the power comes back on.

Your house doesn’t have industrial systems that require 3-5 people working every day to keep running.

Lol these people lack basic understanding of how things work. Wait you mean an industrial heater doesn’t just turn back on?

I can’t believe how f’ing stupid people are.

The industrial chillers and heaters in my data center turn back on automatically after a power outage. It's a mature technology that's fairly robust.

We need to shut down all systems securely and turn each on one in a specific order depending on how the generator is configured. None of our buildings are 100% the same because they were build in different decades.

We’re are moco schools built this decade?

[Anonymous]

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Just a reminder that a PLANE flew into the power lines of a community and thousands, 120,0000 + were affected and this is what you focus on?
Come on, people. Show some compassion and understanding that it was a freak accident and those people are lucky to have their lives and we are lucky the community didn’t get hurt. The blame game is getting old. They might the right call at the time.

The pilot and passenger are fine. The entire county has power. This is a bad call and they had the ability to reverse it at 5am but they didn't. We can have compassion and anger simultaneously.

Power was back by 1 AM. PEPCO had been able to reroute power around the damaged tower. No reason for schools to be closed.

Safety checks have to run at the schools that lost power.

I don’t understand why this can’t be done in a few hours, and just do a delayed opening.

Also, why are care programs not allowed in unaffected schools? Seems like an overreach blanket decision by MCPS

I am a parent impacted by the child care closure. No I don't think on this case they should open child care programs. It would not make any sense to say they are assessing the buildings for safety but go ahead and send your infant in. This is an unprecedented event, let's give them a day.

It’s not an unprecedented event to lose power for ~6 hours. Don’t be ridiculous. From the perspective of MCPS, the only thing that was unprecedented was the decision to close.

It's major damage to the area's energy infrastructure. They have rerouted power but are still assessing the damage. This is not regular downed power line.

Ahh yes. I mean, what if Pepco is serving up the wrong kind of electrons?

From the perspective of MCPS, we're not in an unusual situation. Power was restored after a ~6 hour outage. You seem to be forgetting what Pepco is like if you think that is an "unprecedented" situation.

[Anonymous]

NP here. Good ol' DCUM managing overnight to create a 7 page snarky thread mostly full of troll comments and people replying to them.

1. Please use the report button in lower right for off-topic and troll comments, rather than replying to them.

2. No the teacher's union doesn't make or influence these decisions. Nor is this decision made just to give teachers an extra day off. It's a big disruption to everyone's plans. People suggesting such a thing are trolling. Report those comments.

3. Power outages affect buildings, and it takes time to go and assess that the HVAC, internet, phones, safety (fire alarms and PA) and security systems are functioning properly. I've been in a school that had a power fluctuation in the area. The area came back up, but the building did not. After 1 hour trying to resolve, they dismissed the school early.

4. I'm surprised they actually decided to close the evening before. They could have said 2 hour delay with reassess in morning. While the message about updating in the morning may have been unclear, they won't reverse a system closure. What they were checking is to see if buildings could open for daycare and if offices could be open. Since they remained closed, that says that a lot of buildings were not ready this morning.

5. It's not just buildings. The state of the roads and traffic signals matters in order to run the buses safely. Montgomery County government (including police and fire dept.) will have a say in whether or not they want MCPS to be running buses. A closure decision is not made in isolation by MCPS.

6. It's not just buildings and roads. There are other support services that are critical to the functioning of the system. They mentioned that food services lost power and they needed to assess impact. If the main servers are down and the system has no internet, it's hard to be effective. Etc.

7. They can't just close schools in part of the system and keep other schools open. There are too many students (~15% in choice programs, not sure how many in SPED programs) that attend school other than their home school. The bus network transporting students covers a significant area.

8. Be prepared. This is the exact same conversation that is going to happen when there is some sort of iffy weather event. No need to rehash the stupid comments. Just recognize how the system works and have back-up plans in place so you can adapt.

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Just a reminder that a PLANE flew into the power lines of a community and thousands, 120,0000 + were affected and this is what you focus on?
Come on, people. Show some compassion and understanding that it was a freak accident and those people are lucky to have their lives and we are lucky the community didn’t get hurt. The blame game is getting old. They might the right call at the time.

The pilot and passenger are fine. The entire county has power. This is a bad call and they had the ability to reverse it at 5am but they didn't. We can have compassion and anger simultaneously.

Power was back by 1 AM. PEPCO had been able to reroute power around the damaged tower. No reason for schools to be closed.

Safety checks have to run at the schools that lost power.

I don’t understand why this can’t be done in a few hours, and just do a delayed opening.

Also, why are care programs not allowed in unaffected schools? Seems like an overreach blanket decision by MCPS

I am a parent impacted by the child care closure. No I don't think on this case they should open child care programs. It would not make any sense to say they are assessing the buildings for safety but go ahead and send your infant in. This is an unprecedented event, let's give them a day.

It’s not an unprecedented event to lose power for ~6 hours. Don’t be ridiculous. From the perspective of MCPS, the only thing that was unprecedented was the decision to close.

It's major damage to the area's energy infrastructure. They have rerouted power but are still assessing the damage. This is not regular downed power line.

Ahh yes. I mean, what if Pepco is serving up the wrong kind of electrons?

From the perspective of MCPS, we're not in an unusual situation. Power was restored after a ~6 hour outage. You seem to be forgetting what Pepco is like if you think that is an "unprecedented" situation.

I've lived in MoCo for over 30 years. I've seen power outages. I've been frustrated with Pepco. I have not seen a plane crash into high tension lines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Good ol' DCUM managing overnight to create a 7 page snarky thread mostly full of troll comments and people replying to them.

1. Please use the report button in lower right for off-topic and troll comments, rather than replying to them.

2. No the teacher's union doesn't make or influence these decisions. Nor is this decision made just to give teachers an extra day off. It's a big disruption to everyone's plans. People suggesting such a thing are trolling. Report those comments.

3. Power outages affect buildings, and it takes time to go and assess that the HVAC, internet, phones, safety (fire alarms and PA) and security systems are functioning properly. I've been in a school that had a power fluctuation in the area. The area came back up, but the building did not. After 1 hour trying to resolve, they dismissed the school early.

4. I'm surprised they actually decided to close the evening before. They could have said 2 hour delay with reassess in morning. While the message about updating in the morning may have been unclear, they won't reverse a system closure. What they were checking is to see if buildings could open for daycare and if offices could be open. Since they remained closed, that says that a lot of buildings were not ready this morning.

5. It's not just buildings. The state of the roads and traffic signals matters in order to run the buses safely. Montgomery County government (including police and fire dept.) will have a say in whether or not they want MCPS to be running buses. A closure decision is not made in isolation by MCPS.

6. It's not just buildings and roads. There are other support services that are critical to the functioning of the system. They mentioned that food services lost power and they needed to assess impact. If the main servers are down and the system has no internet, it's hard to be effective. Etc.

7. They can't just close schools in part of the system and keep other schools open. There are too many students (~15% in choice programs, not sure how many in SPED programs) that attend school other than their home school. The bus network transporting students covers a significant area.

8. Be prepared. This is the exact same conversation that is going to happen when there is some sort of iffy weather event. No need to rehash the stupid comments. Just recognize how the system works and have back-up plans in place so you can adapt.

I agree with most of this except #7. That's a dangerous argument to make. Families know which school their child attends. Each school has a principal and staff that know who attends their school should be able to communicate with parents. I hear that there are other reasons why they needed to close all the schools but this should not be one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would to know how many schools do not have heat, water, and internet. My house has these things after the power comes back on.

Your house doesn’t have industrial systems that require 3-5 people working every day to keep running.

Lol these people lack basic understanding of how things work. Wait you mean an industrial heater doesn’t just turn back on?

I can’t believe how f’ing stupid people are.

The industrial chillers and heaters in my data center turn back on automatically after a power outage. It's a mature technology that's fairly robust.

We need to shut down all systems securely and turn each on one in a specific order depending on how the generator is configured. None of our buildings are 100% the same because they were build in different decades.

We’re are moco schools built this decade?

What dark wizards did mcps employ to reopen schools after previous power outages without more than a full day to do it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Good ol' DCUM managing overnight to create a 7 page snarky thread mostly full of troll comments and people replying to them.

1. Please use the report button in lower right for off-topic and troll comments, rather than replying to them.

2. No the teacher's union doesn't make or influence these decisions. Nor is this decision made just to give teachers an extra day off. It's a big disruption to everyone's plans. People suggesting such a thing are trolling. Report those comments.

3. Power outages affect buildings, and it takes time to go and assess that the HVAC, internet, phones, safety (fire alarms and PA) and security systems are functioning properly. I've been in a school that had a power fluctuation in the area. The area came back up, but the building did not. After 1 hour trying to resolve, they dismissed the school early.

4. I'm surprised they actually decided to close the evening before. They could have said 2 hour delay with reassess in morning. While the message about updating in the morning may have been unclear, they won't reverse a system closure. What they were checking is to see if buildings could open for daycare and if offices could be open. Since they remained closed, that says that a lot of buildings were not ready this morning.

5. It's not just buildings. The state of the roads and traffic signals matters in order to run the buses safely. Montgomery County government (including police and fire dept.) will have a say in whether or not they want MCPS to be running buses. A closure decision is not made in isolation by MCPS.

6. It's not just buildings and roads. There are other support services that are critical to the functioning of the system. They mentioned that food services lost power and they needed to assess impact. If the main servers are down and the system has no internet, it's hard to be effective. Etc.

7. They can't just close schools in part of the system and keep other schools open. There are too many students (~15% in choice programs, not sure how many in SPED programs) that attend school other than their home school. The bus network transporting students covers a significant area.

8. Be prepared. This is the exact same conversation that is going to happen when there is some sort of iffy weather event. No need to rehash the stupid comments. Just recognize how the system works and have back-up plans in place so you can adapt.

I agree with most of this except #7. That's a dangerous argument to make. Families know which school their child attends. Each school has a principal and staff that know who attends their school should be able to communicate with parents. I hear that there are other reasons why they needed to close all the schools but this should not be one of them.

Do they know where their teacher parent who has to take off works too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Just a reminder that a PLANE flew into the power lines of a community and thousands, 120,0000 + were affected and this is what you focus on?
Come on, people. Show some compassion and understanding that it was a freak accident and those people are lucky to have their lives and we are lucky the community didn’t get hurt. The blame game is getting old. They might the right call at the time.

The pilot and passenger are fine. The entire county has power. This is a bad call and they had the ability to reverse it at 5am but they didn't. We can have compassion and anger simultaneously.

Power was back by 1 AM. PEPCO had been able to reroute power around the damaged tower. No reason for schools to be closed.

Safety checks have to run at the schools that lost power.

I don’t understand why this can’t be done in a few hours, and just do a delayed opening.

Also, why are care programs not allowed in unaffected schools? Seems like an overreach blanket decision by MCPS

I am a parent impacted by the child care closure. No I don't think on this case they should open child care programs. It would not make any sense to say they are assessing the buildings for safety but go ahead and send your infant in. This is an unprecedented event, let's give them a day.

It’s not an unprecedented event to lose power for ~6 hours. Don’t be ridiculous. From the perspective of MCPS, the only thing that was unprecedented was the decision to close.

It's major damage to the area's energy infrastructure. They have rerouted power but are still assessing the damage. This is not regular downed power line.

Ahh yes. I mean, what if Pepco is serving up the wrong kind of electrons?

From the perspective of MCPS, we're not in an unusual situation. Power was restored after a ~6 hour outage. You seem to be forgetting what Pepco is like if you think that is an "unprecedented" situation.

I've lived in MoCo for over 30 years. I've seen power outages. I've been frustrated with Pepco. I have not seen a plane crash into high tension lines.

Np, I thought Pepco and rescue crews did a fantastic job this time!

[Anonymous]

Why is Montgomery college closed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Just a reminder that a PLANE flew into the power lines of a community and thousands, 120,0000 + were affected and this is what you focus on?
Come on, people. Show some compassion and understanding that it was a freak accident and those people are lucky to have their lives and we are lucky the community didn’t get hurt. The blame game is getting old. They might the right call at the time.

The pilot and passenger are fine. The entire county has power. This is a bad call and they had the ability to reverse it at 5am but they didn't. We can have compassion and anger simultaneously.

Power was back by 1 AM. PEPCO had been able to reroute power around the damaged tower. No reason for schools to be closed.

Safety checks have to run at the schools that lost power.

I don’t understand why this can’t be done in a few hours, and just do a delayed opening.

Also, why are care programs not allowed in unaffected schools? Seems like an overreach blanket decision by MCPS

I am a parent impacted by the child care closure. No I don't think on this case they should open child care programs. It would not make any sense to say they are assessing the buildings for safety but go ahead and send your infant in. This is an unprecedented event, let's give them a day.

It’s not an unprecedented event to lose power for ~6 hours. Don’t be ridiculous. From the perspective of MCPS, the only thing that was unprecedented was the decision to close.

It's major damage to the area's energy infrastructure. They have rerouted power but are still assessing the damage. This is not regular downed power line.

Ahh yes. I mean, what if Pepco is serving up the wrong kind of electrons?

From the perspective of MCPS, we're not in an unusual situation. Power was restored after a ~6 hour outage. You seem to be forgetting what Pepco is like if you think that is an "unprecedented" situation.

I've lived in MoCo for over 30 years. I've seen power outages. I've been frustrated with Pepco. I have not seen a plane crash into high tension lines.

Np, I thought Pepco and rescue crews did a fantastic job this time!

They were sued about 10 years ago and had to properly staff and do maintenance. So I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Good ol' DCUM managing overnight to create a 7 page snarky thread mostly full of troll comments and people replying to them.

1. Please use the report button in lower right for off-topic and troll comments, rather than replying to them.

2. No the teacher's union doesn't make or influence these decisions. Nor is this decision made just to give teachers an extra day off. It's a big disruption to everyone's plans. People suggesting such a thing are trolling. Report those comments.

3. Power outages affect buildings, and it takes time to go and assess that the HVAC, internet, phones, safety (fire alarms and PA) and security systems are functioning properly. I've been in a school that had a power fluctuation in the area. The area came back up, but the building did not. After 1 hour trying to resolve, they dismissed the school early.

4. I'm surprised they actually decided to close the evening before. They could have said 2 hour delay with reassess in morning. While the message about updating in the morning may have been unclear, they won't reverse a system closure. What they were checking is to see if buildings could open for daycare and if offices could be open. Since they remained closed, that says that a lot of buildings were not ready this morning.

5. It's not just buildings. The state of the roads and traffic signals matters in order to run the buses safely. Montgomery County government (including police and fire dept.) will have a say in whether or not they want MCPS to be running buses. A closure decision is not made in isolation by MCPS.

6. It's not just buildings and roads. There are other support services that are critical to the functioning of the system. They mentioned that food services lost power and they needed to assess impact. If the main servers are down and the system has no internet, it's hard to be effective. Etc.

7. They can't just close schools in part of the system and keep other schools open. There are too many students (~15% in choice programs, not sure how many in SPED programs) that attend school other than their home school. The bus network transporting students covers a significant area.

8. Be prepared. This is the exact same conversation that is going to happen when there is some sort of iffy weather event. No need to rehash the stupid comments. Just recognize how the system works and have back-up plans in place so you can adapt.

I agree with most of this except #7. That's a dangerous argument to make. Families know which school their child attends. Each school has a principal and staff that know who attends their school should be able to communicate with parents. I hear that there are other reasons why they needed to close all the schools but this should not be one of them.

Yes, this. Especially when they have closed small groups of schools in the past due to power outages, water main breaks, etc. For future reference, I would like them to specify the threshold of how many schools need to affected by a situation like this in order for them to decide to close all 210 schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Just a reminder that a PLANE flew into the power lines of a community and thousands, 120,0000 + were affected and this is what you focus on?
Come on, people. Show some compassion and understanding that it was a freak accident and those people are lucky to have their lives and we are lucky the community didn’t get hurt. The blame game is getting old. They might the right call at the time.

The pilot and passenger are fine. The entire county has power. This is a bad call and they had the ability to reverse it at 5am but they didn't. We can have compassion and anger simultaneously.

Power was back by 1 AM. PEPCO had been able to reroute power around the damaged tower. No reason for schools to be closed.

Safety checks have to run at the schools that lost power.

I don’t understand why this can’t be done in a few hours, and just do a delayed opening.

Also, why are care programs not allowed in unaffected schools? Seems like an overreach blanket decision by MCPS

I am a parent impacted by the child care closure. No I don't think on this case they should open child care programs. It would not make any sense to say they are assessing the buildings for safety but go ahead and send your infant in. This is an unprecedented event, let's give them a day.

It’s not an unprecedented event to lose power for ~6 hours. Don’t be ridiculous. From the perspective of MCPS, the only thing that was unprecedented was the decision to close.

It's major damage to the area's energy infrastructure. They have rerouted power but are still assessing the damage. This is not regular downed power line.

Ahh yes. I mean, what if Pepco is serving up the wrong kind of electrons?

From the perspective of MCPS, we're not in an unusual situation. Power was restored after a ~6 hour outage. You seem to be forgetting what Pepco is like if you think that is an "unprecedented" situation.

I've lived in MoCo for over 30 years. I've seen power outages. I've been frustrated with Pepco. I have not seen a plane crash into high tension lines.

Interesting. I wasn’t aware MCPS had to work on the high tension lines. I thought they just had to operate their schools in buildings that have already had utilities restored.