FCPS Data shows that Tutor.com is a failture

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Khan Academy is better.

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Anonymous wrote:It was only rolled out on April 14 of SY 2021-22. Is that even two months? Maybe it's a total failure but it seems premature to say so now.

+1. My God.

FCPS introduces a measure to address learning loss - an unprecedented event - it doesn't go well for the first quarter and then people are screaming failure. Give it a chance. One issue we have run into is a tutor not being available at a desired time. I don't know if that's a widespread problem though.

They made a mess of it by keeping kids out of school for so long so no, we are not in the mood to be “understanding”

LOL. We spent all of last year trying to keep your kids from leaving class to roam the hallways with their friends and fight in the bathrooms, and this year we can't even get a large number of them to attend regularly enough to pass their classes. The "kept schools closed" argument is a cheap scapegoat whose time has passed.

I don't blame teachers for closing schools - it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I think many people are discounting the extreme and long-lasting effects it had on children, teens, and adults.

My grandparents never recovered from the Great Depression. I don't discount the trauma of the short overall period of time of closures.

This.

As someone who worked in hospital, I will never be able to forget how public schools cavalierly abandoned their sacred duties during the 2020-21 school year.

And how I was told that I was “selfish” for wanting my child with an IEP learn in person. And the IEP meeting where the case manager lied over and over agin about how services were being delivered effectively. And spent money that I don’t have to pay for a tutor trying to help him catch up when it was clear that the school was not going to do anything about his lack of progress since March of 2020.

Sorry, but the trauma was real. I’m so very glad not every family experienced what I did. But it was and is awful that schools did this to many children.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

+1000. Spend some time in the South African townships, lady.

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Anonymous wrote:It was only rolled out on April 14 of SY 2021-22. Is that even two months? Maybe it's a total failure but it seems premature to say so now.

+1. My God.

FCPS introduces a measure to address learning loss - an unprecedented event - it doesn't go well for the first quarter and then people are screaming failure. Give it a chance. One issue we have run into is a tutor not being available at a desired time. I don't know if that's a widespread problem though.

They made a mess of it by keeping kids out of school for so long so no, we are not in the mood to be “understanding”

LOL. We spent all of last year trying to keep your kids from leaving class to roam the hallways with their friends and fight in the bathrooms, and this year we can't even get a large number of them to attend regularly enough to pass their classes. The "kept schools closed" argument is a cheap scapegoat whose time has passed.

I don't blame teachers for closing schools - it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I think many people are discounting the extreme and long-lasting effects it had on children, teens, and adults.

My grandparents never recovered from the Great Depression. I don't discount the trauma of the short overall period of time of closures.

This.

As someone who worked in hospital, I will never be able to forget how public schools cavalierly abandoned their sacred duties during the 2020-21 school year.

And how I was told that I was “selfish” for wanting my child with an IEP learn in person. And the IEP meeting where the case manager lied over and over agin about how services were being delivered effectively. And spent money that I don’t have to pay for a tutor trying to help him catch up when it was clear that the school was not going to do anything about his lack of progress since March of 2020.

Sorry, but the trauma was real. I’m so very glad not every family experienced what I did. But it was and is awful that schools did this to many children.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

Are you seriously making fun of the mom of a kid with an IEP who missed out on key services for over a year? Shame on you.

The bolded in her post was patently ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:The burdens imposed by federal law in schools for special education are ridiculous since they don’t come with money to fulfill them. FCPS spends a huge amount on special Ed and people are still unhappy. It seems it would be better to provide specialized services in special schools.

They do that, as well. It is very expensive (in the range of $200-$400 per day per child).

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Anonymous wrote:It was only rolled out on April 14 of SY 2021-22. Is that even two months? Maybe it's a total failure but it seems premature to say so now.

+1. My God.

FCPS introduces a measure to address learning loss - an unprecedented event - it doesn't go well for the first quarter and then people are screaming failure. Give it a chance. One issue we have run into is a tutor not being available at a desired time. I don't know if that's a widespread problem though.

They made a mess of it by keeping kids out of school for so long so no, we are not in the mood to be “understanding”

LOL. We spent all of last year trying to keep your kids from leaving class to roam the hallways with their friends and fight in the bathrooms, and this year we can't even get a large number of them to attend regularly enough to pass their classes. The "kept schools closed" argument is a cheap scapegoat whose time has passed.

I don't blame teachers for closing schools - it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I think many people are discounting the extreme and long-lasting effects it had on children, teens, and adults.

My grandparents never recovered from the Great Depression. I don't discount the trauma of the short overall period of time of closures.

This.

As someone who worked in hospital, I will never be able to forget how public schools cavalierly abandoned their sacred duties during the 2020-21 school year.

And how I was told that I was “selfish” for wanting my child with an IEP learn in person. And the IEP meeting where the case manager lied over and over agin about how services were being delivered effectively. And spent money that I don’t have to pay for a tutor trying to help him catch up when it was clear that the school was not going to do anything about his lack of progress since March of 2020.

Sorry, but the trauma was real. I’m so very glad not every family experienced what I did. But it was and is awful that schools did this to many children.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

Are you seriously making fun of the mom of a kid with an IEP who missed out on key services for over a year? Shame on you.

The bolded in her post was patently ridiculous.

No, it really wasn't. There are some people who came through the pandemic unscathed. But there are a lot who didn't.

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Anonymous wrote:It was only rolled out on April 14 of SY 2021-22. Is that even two months? Maybe it's a total failure but it seems premature to say so now.

+1. My God.

FCPS introduces a measure to address learning loss - an unprecedented event - it doesn't go well for the first quarter and then people are screaming failure. Give it a chance. One issue we have run into is a tutor not being available at a desired time. I don't know if that's a widespread problem though.

They made a mess of it by keeping kids out of school for so long so no, we are not in the mood to be “understanding”

LOL. We spent all of last year trying to keep your kids from leaving class to roam the hallways with their friends and fight in the bathrooms, and this year we can't even get a large number of them to attend regularly enough to pass their classes. The "kept schools closed" argument is a cheap scapegoat whose time has passed.

I don't blame teachers for closing schools - it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I think many people are discounting the extreme and long-lasting effects it had on children, teens, and adults.

My grandparents never recovered from the Great Depression. I don't discount the trauma of the short overall period of time of closures.

This.

As someone who worked in hospital, I will never be able to forget how public schools cavalierly abandoned their sacred duties during the 2020-21 school year.

And how I was told that I was “selfish” for wanting my child with an IEP learn in person. And the IEP meeting where the case manager lied over and over agin about how services were being delivered effectively. And spent money that I don’t have to pay for a tutor trying to help him catch up when it was clear that the school was not going to do anything about his lack of progress since March of 2020.

Sorry, but the trauma was real. I’m so very glad not every family experienced what I did. But it was and is awful that schools did this to many children.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

+1000. Spend some time in the South African townships, lady.

Your standards are shockingly low.

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Anonymous wrote:It was only rolled out on April 14 of SY 2021-22. Is that even two months? Maybe it's a total failure but it seems premature to say so now.

+1. My God.

FCPS introduces a measure to address learning loss - an unprecedented event - it doesn't go well for the first quarter and then people are screaming failure. Give it a chance. One issue we have run into is a tutor not being available at a desired time. I don't know if that's a widespread problem though.

They made a mess of it by keeping kids out of school for so long so no, we are not in the mood to be “understanding”

LOL. We spent all of last year trying to keep your kids from leaving class to roam the hallways with their friends and fight in the bathrooms, and this year we can't even get a large number of them to attend regularly enough to pass their classes. The "kept schools closed" argument is a cheap scapegoat whose time has passed.

I don't blame teachers for closing schools - it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I think many people are discounting the extreme and long-lasting effects it had on children, teens, and adults.

My grandparents never recovered from the Great Depression. I don't discount the trauma of the short overall period of time of closures.

This.

As someone who worked in hospital, I will never be able to forget how public schools cavalierly abandoned their sacred duties during the 2020-21 school year.

And how I was told that I was “selfish” for wanting my child with an IEP learn in person. And the IEP meeting where the case manager lied over and over agin about how services were being delivered effectively. And spent money that I don’t have to pay for a tutor trying to help him catch up when it was clear that the school was not going to do anything about his lack of progress since March of 2020.

Sorry, but the trauma was real. I’m so very glad not every family experienced what I did. But it was and is awful that schools did this to many children.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

Are you seriously making fun of the mom of a kid with an IEP who missed out on key services for over a year? Shame on you.

The bolded in her post was patently ridiculous.

No, it really wasn't. There are some people who came through the pandemic unscathed. But there are a lot who didn't.

And there some who didn’t “come through” at all. The nurse with the IEP kid needs to give it a rest. Her anger is only exacerbating the teacher exodus. She should be mad at Gatehouse, but no doubt she takes it out on the teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:The burdens imposed by federal law in schools for special education are ridiculous since they don’t come with money to fulfill them. FCPS spends a huge amount on special Ed and people are still unhappy. It seems it would be better to provide specialized services in special schools.

Source for how much they spend on Special Education?

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But on the other hand, we just went through a very extended period of "get your schooling on the internet!" and the primary lesson from that was that mainly the students who got noticeable benefit out of online school were the ones who weren't struggling, and students who were going to be struggling even in an in-person setting got bupkis from online school.

And in many cases, the kids who would benefit the most from tutoring have the least access when it is only available online--kids in high-poverty schools whose families primarily access the internet through parent phones, for example.

Required after-hours tutoring for students below a certain level in reading or math--with transportation available--would get a lot more takers than tutor.com in my opinion. But that's way more expensive than an online subscription to tutors who haven't even been minimally trained by the school system to be familiar with their approaches.

If we required after-hours tutoring, there would be an uproar. "My kid has sports!" "My kid has a job!" "My kid needs to look after his siblings!" "My kid is tired after school and needs a break!"
We beg and beg students to stay after school for help on late bus days. Only a tiny fraction show up--and most of those only once in a while when they really need to make up something.

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Any updated data on this?

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Anonymous wrote:It was only rolled out on April 14 of SY 2021-22. Is that even two months? Maybe it's a total failure but it seems premature to say so now.

This. A lot of kids don’t even know it’s available. I’m sure they would use it if they knew.

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Anonymous wrote:Any updated data on this?

Is anyone still using this? At the secondary level the big change is AI. Debate it all you want but kids use that to proofread or bounce ideas rather than a random tutor from another country.

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Anonymous wrote:Any updated data on this?

Is anyone still using this? At the secondary level the big change is AI. Debate it all you want but kids use that to proofread or bounce ideas rather than a random tutor from another country.

My HSer had used it this year for AP Precacl. It helped her. She has a high A in the class.

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Anonymous wrote:Any updated data on this?

Is anyone still using this? At the secondary level the big change is AI. Debate it all you want but kids use that to proofread or bounce ideas rather than a random tutor from another country.

DW and I both taught ES grades last year and never knew of any student using it.

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Anonymous wrote:Page 27 of this slide show is heartbreaking. Less than 6,000 students received one-on-one or small-group math catch-up interventions outside of school hours. For reading, that number is less than 7,000.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/CKMQEU68CF92/$file/Presentation--ESSER%20III%20Updates.pdf

Fairfax county got $188million and they only used a drop of that money for the most effective interventions. Not surprising.

There was a recent article (in WaPo maybe?) that said every school district was the same - barely were able to use any ESSR funds.

And what exactly would you have them use the funds for? Hiring more teachers, IAs, tutors, etc. would be the best use of the funds but there are no people to hire.

Actually there are. You just have to pay them better. There are plenty of retired teachers who would do tutoring sessions a few times a week after school for small groups if they offered them decent money.