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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.

Almost, but not quite!

Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!

This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tech is way up, nipping at UMD’s heels, and is higher ranked engineering. UVA, William & Mary and Tech really pulled the trifecta over lowly UMD.

Virginia Tech will always be the 3rd best public and 5th best university in Virginia though. Meanwhile UMD is the best public university (and flagship) and 2nd best university in the state, behind a medical behemoth that is currently ranked #7 (over-ranked but certainly not a mediocre school to be ranked behind).

UMD gets priority over Maryland's state education budget. There's no the major public university in the state. Virginia's get split over UVA, W&M, VT, VCU and GMU. UMD has far more potential.

I went to VA tech, but agreed on UMD has great potential as a flagship state school.
There's basically only another private T10 level school other than UMD.

However VA Tech may catch up with W&M for the 2nd place.
There are already a lot of kids chooing VT rather than W&M depending on majors, personal preference, and fit.
W&M is not a definite choice at all over VT. Practically already almost viewed as tied 2nd after UVA for Virginians when choosing a school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.

Almost, but not quite!

Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!

This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.

A long-time affiliation with a religious order known for covering up sexual assaults? Kind of like Penn State, but with much higher tuition.

Go for it.

[Anonymous]

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1081742.page is honestly much better than US News

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.

Almost, but not quite!

Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!

This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.

A long-time affiliation with a religious order known for covering up sexual assaults? Kind of like Penn State, but with much higher tuition.

Go for it.

It's a T20 school with tons of money.
That's what it matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1081742.page is honestly much better than US News

No, too many bullshit rankers trying to be a fake USN&WR.

Trim it off, and add some sort of weighted system.

[Anonymous]

The Reddit post from yesterday was definitely better: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comment...5_college_ranking_aggregating/

Took unbiased data averages and factored in multiple methodologies to get a nice overall view of what colleges are best. Probably puts Hopkins and Chicago in more realistic places, and shows how underrated UMich is.

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Reddit post from yesterday was definitely better: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comment...5_college_ranking_aggregating/

Took unbiased data averages and factored in multiple methodologies to get a nice overall view of what colleges are best. Probably puts Hopkins and Chicago in more realistic places, and shows how underrated UMich is.

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

Mod, please ban this user

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Reddit post from yesterday was definitely better: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comment...5_college_ranking_aggregating/

Took unbiased data averages and factored in multiple methodologies to get a nice overall view of what colleges are best. Probably puts Hopkins and Chicago in more realistic places, and shows how underrated UMich is.

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

You posted the wrong link, it's https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate CS (pay wall)

11. Texas
12. Columbia
12. Harvard
12. UCLA
12. Michigan
16. Hopkins
16. Purdue
16. UCSD
16. UMD
16. Penn
16. Wisconsin
16. Yale
23. Brown
24. Duke
24. UC Irvine
24. Chicago
24. UNC
24. USC
29. Mudd
29. NW
29. Rice
29. UCD
29. UCSB
29. UMASS
29. UVA
29. Tech

Honestly, I wouldn't bother looking too closely at the few sets of undergrad departmental rankings.

I would. They are much a more useful tool than a general ranking.

+1. Think your full paying for a CS degree from 29 Wake Forest and to find out its 141.

+1 Or you are paying for your child to attend a “second tier Ivy” and the school consistently ranks higher than any school on this rank of 11-36 for one of his majors. It matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Reddit post from yesterday was definitely better: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comment...5_college_ranking_aggregating/

Took unbiased data averages and factored in multiple methodologies to get a nice overall view of what colleges are best. Probably puts Hopkins and Chicago in more realistic places, and shows how underrated UMich is.

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This is a very reasonable list, except I am not sure about Columbia now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.

Almost, but not quite!

Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!

This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.

A long-time affiliation with a religious order known for covering up sexual assaults? Kind of like Penn State, but with much higher tuition.

Go for it.

So you are saying all Catholic Universities are trash. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Reddit post from yesterday was definitely better: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comment...5_college_ranking_aggregating/

Took unbiased data averages and factored in multiple methodologies to get a nice overall view of what colleges are best. Probably puts Hopkins and Chicago in more realistic places, and shows how underrated UMich is.

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This is a very reasonable list, except I am not sure about Columbia now.

You can check the rankings breakdown on the Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

Columbia still does very well on some rankings systems like Forbes which helps it stay in the top 10 overall. I think tied for 9 is reasonable for Columbia, it's still a great school. They are kind of underfunded per student though compared to the schools around it. ~$15B endowment for more than 30k students, Northwestern is working with over $20B for a little over 20k students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tufts seems to drop a little lower each year.

Not surprising the gap among the schools in Boston area is getting smaller - Tufts, BC, BU, NU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tech is way up, nipping at UMD’s heels, and is higher ranked engineering. UVA, William & Mary and Tech really pulled the trifecta over lowly UMD.

Virginia Tech will always be the 3rd best public and 5th best university in Virginia though. Meanwhile UMD is the best public university (and flagship) and 2nd best university in the state, behind a medical behemoth that is currently ranked #7 (over-ranked but certainly not a mediocre school to be ranked behind).

UMD gets priority over Maryland's state education budget. There's no the major public university in the state. Virginia's get split over UVA, W&M, VT, VCU and GMU. UMD has far more potential.

I went to VA tech, but agreed on UMD has great potential as a flagship state school.
There's basically only another private T10 level school other than UMD.

However VA Tech may catch up with W&M for the 2nd place.
There are already a lot of kids chooing VT rather than W&M depending on majors, personal preference, and fit.
W&M is not a definite choice at all over VT. Practically already almost viewed as tied 2nd after UVA for Virginians when choosing a school.

That's always been the case though, at least for the last 25 years. W&M is a great fit for a certain type of student but it's definitely not for everyone. For in-state kids wanting the big sports school experience, the choice has always been VT vs UVA.

I think the main thing that's changed is that VT (non-engineering) is ahead of JMU whereas in the past we thought of them as interchangeable for academics. I knew a lot of kids in high school who went to one or the other and they were all very similar students.

-- W&M '00