Bipartisan Virginia legislature votes to end mask mandates alongside Governor Youngkin

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think someone needs to step in to sue to stop implementation until proper studies are made on effects of such a law. I’m sure that there’s a sympathetic judge somewhere who’s willing to grant an emergency injunction.

May I ask you something in all seriousness? Why do you care so much about this?

Lawsuit filed in federal court. Told ya!

Can't find anything online. Can you please post a link/source? I would really appreciate it. thank you.

All I could find was the Virginia ACLU twitter response that they will amend their complaint. That doesn't provide any proof that a federal lawsuit has been filed.

Anyone have any references on this?

What possible basis would there be for a Federal lawsuit? If there is an issue with how this law was passed, and whether it violates the Virginia constitution, that’s purely a case for the courts of the Commonwealth. Federal courts would reject the case for lack of jurisdiction.

It's based on the ADA and masks being necessary for making schools accessible to students with certain disabilities. It's a ridiculous argument that is failing everywhere they are trying it.

That’s beyond asinine. There is no reasonable interpretation of the ADA that would conclude that it would be a reasonable accommodation to force others to mask to protect vulnerable people. The reasonable accommodation is to allow vulnerable people to continue to wear masks, which is still the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think someone needs to step in to sue to stop implementation until proper studies are made on effects of such a law. I’m sure that there’s a sympathetic judge somewhere who’s willing to grant an emergency injunction.

May I ask you something in all seriousness? Why do you care so much about this?

Lawsuit filed in federal court. Told ya!

Can't find anything online. Can you please post a link/source? I would really appreciate it. thank you.

All I could find was the Virginia ACLU twitter response that they will amend their complaint. That doesn't provide any proof that a federal lawsuit has been filed.

Anyone have any references on this?

What possible basis would there be for a Federal lawsuit? If there is an issue with how this law was passed, and whether it violates the Virginia constitution, that’s purely a case for the courts of the Commonwealth. Federal courts would reject the case for lack of jurisdiction.

It's based on the ADA and masks being necessary for making schools accessible to students with certain disabilities. It's a ridiculous argument that is failing everywhere they are trying it.

That’s beyond asinine. There is no reasonable interpretation of the ADA that would conclude that it would be a reasonable accommodation to force others to mask to protect vulnerable people. The reasonable accommodation is to allow vulnerable people to continue to wear masks, which is still the case.

This could be logically extended to any public building that any qualifying medically fragile person needs to visit. Public libraries, government buildings, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I think someone needs to step in to sue to stop implementation until proper studies are made on effects of such a law. I’m sure that there’s a sympathetic judge somewhere who’s willing to grant an emergency injunction.

May I ask you something in all seriousness? Why do you care so much about this?

Lawsuit filed in federal court. Told ya!

Can't find anything online. Can you please post a link/source? I would really appreciate it. thank you.

All I could find was the Virginia ACLU twitter response that they will amend their complaint. That doesn't provide any proof that a federal lawsuit has been filed.

Anyone have any references on this?

What possible basis would there be for a Federal lawsuit? If there is an issue with how this law was passed, and whether it violates the Virginia constitution, that’s purely a case for the courts of the Commonwealth. Federal courts would reject the case for lack of jurisdiction.

It's based on the ADA and masks being necessary for making schools accessible to students with certain disabilities. It's a ridiculous argument that is failing everywhere they are trying it.

That’s beyond asinine. There is no reasonable interpretation of the ADA that would conclude that it would be a reasonable accommodation to force others to mask to protect vulnerable people. The reasonable accommodation is to allow vulnerable people to continue to wear masks, which is still the case.

I agree that the reasonable accodomation is to allow masks optional.

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Anonymous wrote:I think someone needs to step in to sue to stop implementation until proper studies are made on effects of such a law. I’m sure that there’s a sympathetic judge somewhere who’s willing to grant an emergency injunction.

May I ask you something in all seriousness? Why do you care so much about this?

Lawsuit filed in federal court. Told ya!

Can't find anything online. Can you please post a link/source? I would really appreciate it. thank you.

All I could find was the Virginia ACLU twitter response that they will amend their complaint. That doesn't provide any proof that a federal lawsuit has been filed.

Anyone have any references on this?

What possible basis would there be for a Federal lawsuit? If there is an issue with how this law was passed, and whether it violates the Virginia constitution, that’s purely a case for the courts of the Commonwealth. Federal courts would reject the case for lack of jurisdiction.

It's based on the ADA and masks being necessary for making schools accessible to students with certain disabilities. It's a ridiculous argument that is failing everywhere they are trying it.

That’s beyond asinine. There is no reasonable interpretation of the ADA that would conclude that it would be a reasonable accommodation to force others to mask to protect vulnerable people. The reasonable accommodation is to allow vulnerable people to continue to wear masks, which is still the case.

This could be logically extended to any public building that any qualifying medically fragile person needs to visit. Public libraries, government buildings, etc.

it also extends beyond covid. It's a ridiculous overreach

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think someone needs to step in to sue to stop implementation until proper studies are made on effects of such a law. I’m sure that there’s a sympathetic judge somewhere who’s willing to grant an emergency injunction.

May I ask you something in all seriousness? Why do you care so much about this?

Lawsuit filed in federal court. Told ya!

Can't find anything online. Can you please post a link/source? I would really appreciate it. thank you.

All I could find was the Virginia ACLU twitter response that they will amend their complaint. That doesn't provide any proof that a federal lawsuit has been filed.

Anyone have any references on this?

What possible basis would there be for a Federal lawsuit? If there is an issue with how this law was passed, and whether it violates the Virginia constitution, that’s purely a case for the courts of the Commonwealth. Federal courts would reject the case for lack of jurisdiction.

It's based on the ADA and masks being necessary for making schools accessible to students with certain disabilities. It's a ridiculous argument that is failing everywhere they are trying it.

That’s beyond asinine. There is no reasonable interpretation of the ADA that would conclude that it would be a reasonable accommodation to force others to mask to protect vulnerable people. The reasonable accommodation is to allow vulnerable people to continue to wear masks, which is still the case.

I agree that the reasonable accodomation is to allow masks optional.

Yes, I'd be opposed to a total ban on masks. There is some small percentage of kids with health issues that probably need to continue wearing masks. We should defer to their parents and their doctors. Just like the schools need to give deference to those of us that are comfortable with ending masking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no problems removing the masks now, based on the number, per CDC guidance.

however, the law is very troublesome as it makes mask optional regardless of the numbers or the nature of the virus. That is bull.

GOPers, we learned one thing from you. We just have to be loud and relentless, and yes, uncivil. Just like you were. And we'll get our way

Too funny. You're the ones who set that standard - 5+ years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see actual N95s occasionally, but a lot of KN95s. My elementary schooler wears one every day, as do many of her teachers and classmates. I wear one when I have to go into stores, offices, etc.

I’m not taking more chances than I need to.

And no one is asking you to.

[Anonymous]

I have an immunocompromised niece who always wears a mask - well before Covid ever was a thing. She will have to continue masking, because she gets ill easily. But even she is quite firm about that being *her* issue - not everyone else's.

If you're medically fragile (or just neurotic) - by all means, keep masking! The rest of us don't have to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problems removing the masks now, based on the number, per CDC guidance.

however, the law is very troublesome as it makes mask optional regardless of the numbers or the nature of the virus. That is bull.

GOPers, we learned one thing from you. We just have to be loud and relentless, and yes, uncivil. Just like you were. And we'll get our way

It's funny how injured they act.

Laws can be changed again folks. Meanwhile I’ll take liberty at the risk of death. That is what America is about. If you want to be coddled and over governed go to Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problems removing the masks now, based on the number, per CDC guidance.

however, the law is very troublesome as it makes mask optional regardless of the numbers or the nature of the virus. That is bull.

GOPers, we learned one thing from you. We just have to be loud and relentless, and yes, uncivil. Just like you were. And we'll get our way

It's funny how injured they act.

Laws can be changed again folks. Meanwhile I’ll take liberty at the risk of death. That is what America is about. If you want to be coddled and over governed go to Europe.

And I honestly hope you get your wish. Just please stay home and die, don't go to the hospital.

Stop wearing seatbelts too while you're at it, and disobey speed limits. Freedom!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problems removing the masks now, based on the number, per CDC guidance.

however, the law is very troublesome as it makes mask optional regardless of the numbers or the nature of the virus. That is bull.

GOPers, we learned one thing from you. We just have to be loud and relentless, and yes, uncivil. Just like you were. And we'll get our way

It's funny how injured they act.

Laws can be changed again folks. Meanwhile I’ll take liberty at the risk of death. That is what America is about. If you want to be coddled and over governed go to Europe.

And I honestly hope you get your wish. Just please stay home and die, don't go to the hospital.

Stop wearing seatbelts too while you're at it, and disobey speed limits. Freedom!

Seatbelts actually work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problems removing the masks now, based on the number, per CDC guidance.

however, the law is very troublesome as it makes mask optional regardless of the numbers or the nature of the virus. That is bull.

GOPers, we learned one thing from you. We just have to be loud and relentless, and yes, uncivil. Just like you were. And we'll get our way

It's funny how injured they act.

Laws can be changed again folks. Meanwhile I’ll take liberty at the risk of death. That is what America is about. If you want to be coddled and over governed go to Europe.

And I honestly hope you get your wish. Just please stay home and die, don't go to the hospital.

Stop wearing seatbelts too while you're at it, and disobey speed limits. Freedom!

Seatbelts actually work.

It's like they can't help it. They have to push more disinformation. Do you get a bonus or are you a zealot?

I have more than a dozen ancestors who fought for liberty and a free nation when our country was founded. They are all.my ancestors because they did not catch yellow fever and die. But you do, sweets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problems removing the masks now, based on the number, per CDC guidance.

however, the law is very troublesome as it makes mask optional regardless of the numbers or the nature of the virus. That is bull.

GOPers, we learned one thing from you. We just have to be loud and relentless, and yes, uncivil. Just like you were. And we'll get our way

It's funny how injured they act.

Laws can be changed again folks. Meanwhile I’ll take liberty at the risk of death. That is what America is about. If you want to be coddled and over governed go to Europe.

And I honestly hope you get your wish. Just please stay home and die, don't go to the hospital.

Stop wearing seatbelts too while you're at it, and disobey speed limits. Freedom!

Seatbelts actually work.

It's like they can't help it. They have to push more disinformation. Do you get a bonus or are you a zealot?

I have more than a dozen ancestors who fought for liberty and a free nation when our country was founded. They are all.my ancestors because they did not catch yellow fever and die. But you do, sweets.

Vaccines and seatbelts have proven to save lives in statistically significant numbers. Cloth or surgical masks, despite numerous attempts to prove they work, don't provide a statistically significant benefit. Why did they research this? Because developing countries don't have easy access to N95s. N95s can be protective, but they need to fit correctly. The average citizen or child isn't wearing them correctly. So, even N95s don't really work either due to misuse. But you keep on with your rituals that make you feel safer: The wiping of packages, Disinfecting door knobs, Perfuming yourself with Lysol, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problems removing the masks now, based on the number, per CDC guidance.

however, the law is very troublesome as it makes mask optional regardless of the numbers or the nature of the virus. That is bull.

GOPers, we learned one thing from you. We just have to be loud and relentless, and yes, uncivil. Just like you were. And we'll get our way

It's funny how injured they act.

Laws can be changed again folks. Meanwhile I’ll take liberty at the risk of death. That is what America is about. If you want to be coddled and over governed go to Europe.

Last I checked - Europe wasn’t masking kids. I would say if you want everyone to be locked down - go to China.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problems removing the masks now, based on the number, per CDC guidance.

however, the law is very troublesome as it makes mask optional regardless of the numbers or the nature of the virus. That is bull.

GOPers, we learned one thing from you. We just have to be loud and relentless, and yes, uncivil. Just like you were. And we'll get our way

It's funny how injured they act.

Laws can be changed again folks. Meanwhile I’ll take liberty at the risk of death. That is what America is about. If you want to be coddled and over governed go to Europe.

And I honestly hope you get your wish. Just please stay home and die, don't go to the hospital.

Stop wearing seatbelts too while you're at it, and disobey speed limits. Freedom!

Seatbelts actually work.

And it’s not just freedom / no freedom - it’s a risk benefit analysis. And at this point - the risk / benefit of mandatory masks in school is not there.
Mandating something on your face is a real imposition and should be sparingly used if freedom is to mean anything.