Does graduating from a Top 20 school signal that you are a smart, hardworking person?

[Anonymous]

I mean, I graduated from top 10 schools for undergrad and grad and I know I’m not hardworking. Imo, that’s the point of going to those schools— I get great jobs and keep them without working hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't know how this is even a question, when you have such fine examples as Dubya and Trump. The only school I'd make an exception for is MIT; don't know any idiots or slackers to come out of there.

Yes! Can we please see that transcript, DT?

[Anonymous]

nope

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't know how this is even a question, when you have such fine examples as Dubya and Trump. The only school I'd make an exception for is MIT; don't know any idiots or slackers to come out of there.

TRUMP didn’t come out if a top school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d say no but there are still plenty of employers who will only hire from top 20, or even top 5 schools.

Just curious who you think will only hire from a Top 5 school?

McKinsey, Bain and BCG hire from 30 schools (with University of Michigan #3 overall in terms of number of hires)
The bulk of top investment banking hires come from 25 schools, with NYU sending more kids than all Ivy Leagues and Stanford (Stanford actually very low...likely just because their grads don't want to go East), except Penn

The only industry I can think that may apply is Venture Capital...however, the total employment in VC is miniscule.

Now, yes, those companies above tend to take more kids from higher ranked schools, but there are still plenty of kids getting recruited from UVA, UT - Austin, Notre Dame, etc. for both IBanking and Consulting.

Notre Dame is a top 20 school, and it's business program is top 10.[b]

Here are some hiring ranks for consulting and finance.

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

You keep saying that, ND Mom, but neglect to point out that USNWR has two lists: the top 20 SLACs and top 20 universities. You also fail to note that ND is a low 19 on the university list, so maybe a 38 overall but points for trying.. yet again.

[Anonymous]

I’m one of the rare folks who thinks the major signals it more than the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't know how this is even a question, when you have such fine examples as Dubya and Trump. The only school I'd make an exception for is MIT; don't know any idiots or slackers to come out of there.

TRUMP didn’t come out if a top school.

He graduated from Wharton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the rare folks who thinks the major signals it more than the school.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d say no but there are still plenty of employers who will only hire from top 20, or even top 5 schools.

Just curious who you think will only hire from a Top 5 school?

McKinsey, Bain and BCG hire from 30 schools (with University of Michigan #3 overall in terms of number of hires)
The bulk of top investment banking hires come from 25 schools, with NYU sending more kids than all Ivy Leagues and Stanford (Stanford actually very low...likely just because their grads don't want to go East), except Penn

The only industry I can think that may apply is Venture Capital...however, the total employment in VC is miniscule.

Now, yes, those companies above tend to take more kids from higher ranked schools, but there are still plenty of kids getting recruited from UVA, UT - Austin, Notre Dame, etc. for both IBanking and Consulting.

Notre Dame is a top 20 school, and it's business program is top 10.[b]

Here are some hiring ranks for consulting and finance.

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

You keep saying that, ND Mom, but neglect to point out that USNWR has two lists: the top 20 SLACs and top 20 universities. You also fail to note that ND is a low 19 on the university list, so maybe a 38 overall but points for trying.. yet again.

OMG, you both need to find a hobby. Or is this it?

[Anonymous]

It signifies status.

It means you're either extremely smart, hardworking, connected, talented, rich, or some combination of the aforementioned. Not bad company to be in.

[Anonymous]

Some of the biggest idiots dragging this country down now went to top 20 schools.