Crime on the hill - Charles Allen has got to go

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 6 resident here. Charles Allen panders too much to people soft on crime. His solution? Violence interrupters. What are those? They’re basically ex-cons strategically hired and placed in communities to try and stop violence by talking to those most likely to commit violence before it happens. Do they work? No. Most studies show they don’t reduce crime and may exacerbate it.

Why is he doing it? Because I hate the word, but “woke” pressure to use a more holistic, caring approach to crime, so as not to uproot community members and disrupt families, is being implemented.

What else is he doing? He is a big proposed of the Youth Rehabilitation Act and second chance law. Those laws let violent criminals out of jail early. They reduce sentence lengths. Also, he’s done nothing to dissuade teens from robbing people. The city is very lenient on that and it’s basically catch and release.

I would love to vote for someone tougher. Honestly, even Denise Krepp if she ran. She tried to subpoena crime records from DOJ for years, but appears to have been stymied at every turn. I’m sick of politicians pandering to violent elements at the expense of tax paying citizens who contribute greatly to the tax base.

Can you share some links to studies about the efficacy (or not) of crime interrupters? There was an Ezra Klein podcast episode recently that went through some studies that found those types of interventions pretty effective in lowering crime. (This isn't meant to be a "show your sources" response, I am actually interested in seeing the studies bc I was surprised that there seemed to be so much empirical support for something that intuitively seems like it wouldn't work).

This Vox story says the evidence suggests they do very little and in fact may be making crime worse:

https://www.vox.com/22622363/police-violence-interrupters-cure-violence-research-study

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Ward 6 resident here. Charles Allen panders too much to people soft on crime. His solution? Violence interrupters. What are those? They’re basically ex-cons strategically hired and placed in communities to try and stop violence by talking to those most likely to commit violence before it happens. Do they work? No. Most studies show they don’t reduce crime and may exacerbate it.

Why is he doing it? Because I hate the word, but “woke” pressure to use a more holistic, caring approach to crime, so as not to uproot community members and disrupt families, is being implemented.

What else is he doing? He is a big proposed of the Youth Rehabilitation Act and second chance law. Those laws let violent criminals out of jail early. They reduce sentence lengths. Also, he’s done nothing to dissuade teens from robbing people. The city is very lenient on that and it’s basically catch and release.

I would love to vote for someone tougher. Honestly, even Denise Krepp if she ran. She tried to subpoena crime records from DOJ for years, but appears to have been stymied at every turn. I’m sick of politicians pandering to violent elements at the expense of tax paying citizens who contribute greatly to the tax base.


Can you share some links to studies about the efficacy (or not) of crime interrupters? There was an Ezra Klein podcast episode recently that went through some studies that found those types of interventions pretty effective in lowering crime. (This isn't meant to be a "show your sources" response, I am actually interested in seeing the studies bc I was surprised that there seemed to be so much empirical support for something that intuitively seems like it wouldn't work).


This Vox story says the evidence suggests they do very little and in fact may be making crime worse:

https://www.vox.com/22622363/police-violence-inter...s-cure-violence-research-study

Yep. And the Vox story points out that the studies which have been done are the types of anecdotal studies that typically can give overly positive results. So the fact that the studies are less than stellar actually suggests that the results from more evidence-based research would be more damning. What DOES work is the type of focused, hot spot approaches which are derided by the DC Council's progressives. I so want to vote out the Nadeau/Allen/White/Silverman faction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Ward 6 resident here. Charles Allen panders too much to people soft on crime. His solution? Violence interrupters. What are those? They’re basically ex-cons strategically hired and placed in communities to try and stop violence by talking to those most likely to commit violence before it happens. Do they work? No. Most studies show they don’t reduce crime and may exacerbate it.

Why is he doing it? Because I hate the word, but “woke” pressure to use a more holistic, caring approach to crime, so as not to uproot community members and disrupt families, is being implemented.

What else is he doing? He is a big proposed of the Youth Rehabilitation Act and second chance law. Those laws let violent criminals out of jail early. They reduce sentence lengths. Also, he’s done nothing to dissuade teens from robbing people. The city is very lenient on that and it’s basically catch and release.

I would love to vote for someone tougher. Honestly, even Denise Krepp if she ran. She tried to subpoena crime records from DOJ for years, but appears to have been stymied at every turn. I’m sick of politicians pandering to violent elements at the expense of tax paying citizens who contribute greatly to the tax base.


Can you share some links to studies about the efficacy (or not) of crime interrupters? There was an Ezra Klein podcast episode recently that went through some studies that found those types of interventions pretty effective in lowering crime. (This isn't meant to be a "show your sources" response, I am actually interested in seeing the studies bc I was surprised that there seemed to be so much empirical support for something that intuitively seems like it wouldn't work).


This Vox story says the evidence suggests they do very little and in fact may be making crime worse:

https://www.vox.com/22622363/police-violence-inter...s-cure-violence-research-study

Yep. And the Vox story points out that the studies which have been done are the types of anecdotal studies that typically can give overly positive results. So the fact that the studies are less than stellar actually suggests that the results from more evidence-based research would be more damning. What DOES work is the type of focused, hot spot approaches which are derided by the DC Council's progressives. I so want to vote out the Nadeau/Allen/White/Silverman faction.

Allen would be a great councilmember if he didn’t have his head up his a** about crime. He’s great on education and he has great constituent support services. But the crime thing is really a dealbreaker. People don’t feel safe (because they aren’t).

[Anonymous]

There have been a number of deliberately set fires in Capitol Hill of late, with someone setting fire to leaf piles. Allen had very strong words ... for DPW for not picking up the leaves.

https://twitter.com/Anc6B10/status/1468916381836009472

It's like he's genetically incapable of calling people out for committing crimes.

[Anonymous]

That’s because it’s easier to spend $9.6 on violence interruptors and bs than to face hard facts and use police force to keep residents safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please stop describing your neighbors, your your fellow human beings, as “criminals.”

These are PEOPLE!

And no one wants to commit a so-called crime. Rather, these people come from lesser-resourced communities where they never enjoyed the privilege you probably had from birth.

Locking them up for every little alleged crime is not the answer.

+1000

No one gets up in the morning and says to themselves “I want to be a criminal. I should go steal a car.”

These are young people of color who are desperately misunderstood by people who’ve they’ve been told their whole lives are better than them because their skin is white. Do you blame them for lashing out?

They need love and they need you to acknowledge your part in the system that put them where they are. Until you are willing to admit that, nothing changes. If you want to know why people get carjacked, look in a mirror. You’re why.

Black folks are also completely fed up with the crime too, FWIW.

https://twitter.com/realtimenews10/status/1465871077675085825?s=21

Right. It’s so racist to assume black people want crime ridden unsafe neighborhoods. Only woke people who went to Harvard think such stupidly racist things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please stop describing your neighbors, your your fellow human beings, as “criminals.”

These are PEOPLE!

And no one wants to commit a so-called crime. Rather, these people come from lesser-resourced communities where they never enjoyed the privilege you probably had from birth.

Locking them up for every little alleged crime is not the answer.

+1000

No one gets up in the morning and says to themselves “I want to be a criminal. I should go steal a car.”

These are young people of color who are desperately misunderstood by people who’ve they’ve been told their whole lives are better than them because their skin is white. Do you blame them for lashing out?

They need love and they need you to acknowledge your part in the system that put them where they are. Until you are willing to admit that, nothing changes. If you want to know why people get carjacked, look in a mirror. You’re why.

Black folks are also completely fed up with the crime too, FWIW.

https://twitter.com/realtimenews10/status/1465871077675085825?s=21

Right. It’s so racist to assume black people want crime ridden unsafe neighborhoods. Only woke people who went to Harvard think such stupidly racist things.

Yeah. Hyperbolic but untrue.

The sentiment now is anti-police, anti-tough on crime, anti arrest.

And you know what? This is what happens. More crime.

[Anonymous]

I've read this thread with much interest (and other related CA-themed threads) - but what to do? Ward 6 needs an Eric Adams, to be blunt. Seems like the right, public-safety focused candidate could have a real shot.

[Anonymous]

It strikes me as odd that Allen has been so vocal about getting people with delinquent traffic tickets to pay up. Many of them cannot afford to do so but Allen seemingly is fine with that. He also has no problem with all the new traffic cameras being installed, 80 percent of which are going up in low-income areas.

But if you use an illegal handgun to rob/carjack/kill someone, he thinks you're just misguided and should not be punished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please stop describing your neighbors, your your fellow human beings, as “criminals.”

These are PEOPLE!

And no one wants to commit a so-called crime. Rather, these people come from lesser-resourced communities where they never enjoyed the privilege you probably had from birth.

Locking them up for every little alleged crime is not the answer.

+1000

No one gets up in the morning and says to themselves “I want to be a criminal. I should go steal a car.”

These are young people of color who are desperately misunderstood by people who’ve they’ve been told their whole lives are better than them because their skin is white. Do you blame them for lashing out?

They need love and they need you to acknowledge your part in the system that put them where they are. Until you are willing to admit that, nothing changes. If you want to know why people get carjacked, look in a mirror. You’re why.

Black folks are also completely fed up with the crime too, FWIW.

https://twitter.com/realtimenews10/status/1465871077675085825?s=21

Right. It’s so racist to assume black people want crime ridden unsafe neighborhoods. Only woke people who went to Harvard think such stupidly racist things.

"No one wants to commit a so-called crime."

You need many years of miseducation to end up saying something so stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've read this thread with much interest (and other related CA-themed threads) - but what to do? Ward 6 needs an Eric Adams, to be blunt. Seems like the right, public-safety focused candidate could have a real shot.

What happened to Darrell Thompson, who ran against Allen unsuccessfully in 2014? If he still lives in Ward 6 maybe he would consider running against him again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've read this thread with much interest (and other related CA-themed threads) - but what to do? Ward 6 needs an Eric Adams, to be blunt. Seems like the right, public-safety focused candidate could have a real shot.

We won’t get someone like that because of the mix of residents. We have these type a) genuinely so altruistic verging on self-flagellation. This town attracts tons of super charged go getters with hearts of gold etc b) wealthy people who like to virtue signal and signal performative wokeness which would mean they don’t want tough on crime policies c ) people who are poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've read this thread with much interest (and other related CA-themed threads) - but what to do? Ward 6 needs an Eric Adams, to be blunt. Seems like the right, public-safety focused candidate could have a real shot.

We won’t get someone like that because of the mix of residents. We have these type a) genuinely so altruistic verging on self-flagellation. This town attracts tons of super charged go getters with hearts of gold etc b) wealthy people who like to virtue signal and signal performative wokeness which would mean they don’t want tough on crime policies c ) people who are poor.

I fall into categories a and b. I would vote for literally anyone who had a shot against Allen. I am angry that he is prioritizing Maryland criminals over folks in his own ward.

[Anonymous]

I have said it before and I will say it again, I will campaign for you and donate to your campaign if you run against Allen.

My spouse and I are left-leaning BIPOCs who want to and deserve to live in safe city. And, we believe that everyone--especially historically marginalized racial and ethnic minorities--deserves to feel safe where they live. And further we believe it is possible to be tough on crime while reforming police departments to better serve their communities and holding police officers accountable for misdeeds.

Charles Allen is displaying the highest form of privilege (to borrow his language) when he sides with the criminals. He can afford to do this because he has the means to insulate himself from crime. Because he has the means to easily absorb the financial and physical costs of crime. Because he is not a woman who fears being the victim of sexual assault.

We need leaders who are able to understand that most of us are not as privileged as they are, that most of us are not able to afford the emotional, physical, and financial fallout from coddling criminals.

#anyonebutAllen2022

[Anonymous]

I have said it before and I will say it again, I will campaign for you and donate to your campaign if you run against Allen.

My spouse and I are left-leaning BIPOCs who want to and deserve to live in safe city. And, we believe that everyone--especially historically marginalized racial and ethnic minorities--deserves to feel safe where they live. And further we believe it is possible to be tough on crime while reforming police departments to better serve their communities and holding police officers accountable for misdeeds.

Charles Allen is displaying the highest form of privilege (to borrow his language) when he sides with the criminals. He can afford to do this because he has the means to insulate himself from crime. Because he has the means to easily absorb the financial and physical costs of crime. Because he is not a woman who fears being the victim of sexual assault.

We need leaders who are able to understand that most of us are not as privileged as they are, that most of us are not able to afford the emotional, physical, and financial fallout from coddling criminals.

#anyonebutAllen2022

Amen. You are SO right on this front.