My find it funny how young people think technology is a plus for work and building teams. I work in IT in a very large FinTech. I have worked in FinTechs around 15 years in a senior management role. I would never say this at work but I sent my first email At 34. Got first cell phone at 43. Bought my first home computer at 50. Heck I got voicemail at work not till 35. I have extremely deep product knowledge, strong at leading teams. I had to do all meetings in person. Other choices I do inter office mail and we used buck slips. I had a pencil, a few note pads, calculator and dumb terminals. With no internet I had to know it or have connections at work or in the industry to get the info. I even went to library after work. Today I can run know all IT. But I tell you when you wrote a 20 page term paper with footnotes on a typewriter with no internet. Today I throw out trash. Almost like crap. Untested models, queries I threw together, half ass teams meetings and jira or slack communications to disengaged folks trying to build a system. I literally help build a System 30 years ago through interviews with dozens of clerks with pen and paper and communication business requirements. Today I don’t do that no one does. Love to see anyone under 40 last a day in the punch card days. Hate to tell you since windows 95 and windows explorer came out nothing has really changed at work. Pre email/internet/Microsoft word/excel was totally different. And stress much higher. Imagine mailing a million hard copies of a document with an error and having to reprint a million copies and remail? Today you just update webpage I think if older play with your strengths. In OP case SAHM mom is a real super hard job. Own it. |
Perhaps, but there may be others —like me — who are following this thread with great interest. Not to derail, but I have a PhD, HYP undergrad, and solid work history in my field. I have a 10 year gap that includes managing care for a parent. I’m now interested in full time work — and part of my problem is that I lack direction and want to do something different that might build on my previous professional skills. I’ve very much appreciated the helpful suggestions in this thread. |
And this is why ageism exists. They are ignorant of what is even available/possible and then say stupid shit like technology hasn't changed since Windows 95. Being a luddite is not an asset in the job market. It is a good thing you are nearing social security age because your attitude is not realistic and your beliefs aren't accurate. |
OP was clearly a troll trying to scare SAHMs and make them seem like they should all regret their choice. |
DP. Okay I propose a challenge. A young Tableu dashboard master is assigned to program a stack of punch cards to print "Hello World". An older worker, who was master punchcard programmer needs to do the same in Tableu. Who will win? |
A master programmer will create the Tableau equivalent of "Hello World" in minutes. I started my career with mainframe terminals. I picked up Tableau very quickly on my own. It's not rocket science, really. The hardest thing with Tableau is sketching out what you want to do from the visual standpoint to make the results easy to understand. Once you know what you want it to look like, getting there is easy. That is unless you are doing any custom programming for the visuals, but we are talking about a dashboard master, not a programmer. |
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I’m the one that brought up ageism.
In 20 years working in the field of Computer Science, I have never felt age is a factor in one’s ability to accept change or to think logically. Those are personality traits. People who believe themselves tech savvy only because they are users of a variety of products don’t take the time to understand the underlying building blocks of technology or data analysis. I’d take a 60-year-old product owner with an understanding of business process and an open mind any day over an arrogant 20-something with no skills in logic or teamwork. Or vice versa….ageism shouldn’t be against younger people either. There is simply a way you think or a way you don’t think, and the ability is what matters. You can teach someone how to use tableau. You can not necessarily teach them how to build an effective system if they are unwilling to understand that the technology is secondary, not primary, to what drives an organization. |
I also don’t think many of the suggestions are realistic, or they are simply obvious. Apply to thousands of jobs, make your resume fit each one, stop worrying about what you WANT to do and just take a job, and use your network. It shouldn’t be difficult if your skill set is in demand, but aimless lacking direction is going to get you nowhere considering hiring managers are millennials who’ve lived through recessions and a pandemic. |
Also HYP undergrad and this is where to use your network. Frankly I’d just forget you ever got a PhD; consider it irrelevant to the job market today unless it’s in some super valuable STEM field. |
| It took me 2 years to break back into the workforce. I have a MS. It was brutal. I went to one interview where the women on the panel kept referring to me as a “lady of leisure” because I stayed home with my kids due to no daycare and helped my parents out while my dad died of cancer. OP just go into every interview knowing no one respects women who care for family. Start looking how you can spin your time out of the workforce. Eventually, another former SAHM hired me. We are out there and recognize that life doesn’t workout perfectly for everyone. |
Most of us posting her are not out bash SAHMs. It's a great time to get back into the job market. However, OP's requests are too constraining. I would advise SAHP's re-entering after a long break to look for full time, in office positions. Employers are ready to get butts in seats again. Use your network, and be patient. |
Haha, PP here, this was my point. The modern tools are very user friendly and any technical person from the last 40 years will get it. |
Maybe posters here aren’t bashing SAHP but OP will face hostile people on interviews. The best best is to go in assuming hostility. Would also try government contracting firms. They often just want you breathing. |
Except let them do it with no computer screen or mouse in fact my firm had no letters on key board as you should memorized it. In fact my adding machines had no tape at work to look at either. Good luck with the Dex machine (pre fax) making carbon copies on a type writer and using early code. Without a GUI or screen good luck. And also speed. We had staff typing at 80 WFM in some areas. Also at one point a big skill Was speedreading I won the company contest at 23 being able to read 3,000 words a minute. I was like Google. I could find the stuff in a manual in a few seconds. Can’t do it anymore. But I could read a 300 page manual in 10 minutes with comprehension. And folks forever hardware. My old company in early 1980s we built third largest data center in world with employees then wrote all the programs and created telephony and installed connections at client sites. |
Change your female first name to a male first name. Or make you name Kelly or Pat. You can say it's a nick name. I bet you a million dollars you get a call back. |