Writing no phone use into a nanny contract

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If nanny and baby are out for a walk and baby stops breathing, is nanny not to call 911?

Jesus, learn to read! OP is buying the nanny a new Apple watch for emergencies.

This thread has gone off the rails with truly insane nannies with major addiction issues! YOU DON’T NEED YOUR PHONE GLUED TO YOUR DAMN HAND! The nanny will have at least one lunch break to use her phone (like most of the working world).

I'm not a nanny; I'm a 50 year old mother of an 18 year old and a 15 year old so our nanny days are well past. I think OP sounds clinically insane.

Totally agree and I’m a parent and not a nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And what a pot was stirred! It’s scary how addicted some of you are to your phones. It’s unhealthy and this thread proved it.

Get a liiiiiiiiiiife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She can’t even step away from the baby. She needs to call the housekeeper. This is mental.

Op needs to see a therapist and get on anxiety meds straight away she is going to harm her child with her anxiety far more than any nanny on an I phone would.

This is not how you treat someone you are allegedly trusting your child with. You simply ask them to refrain from phone use during work hours. If you can’t trust them to do that you shouldn’t be hiring them. Not to mention that her child is not the center of the universe and treating them as such only harms them in the long run.

[Anonymous]

How will you ensure she isn’t using a burner phone at the playground to surf the web while pushing the swing or better yet text a friend about her nuts boss?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And what a pot was stirred! It’s scary how addicted some of you are to your phones. It’s unhealthy and this thread proved it.

I wouldn’t be so addicted if there weren’t so many crazy threads like this one!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow! So much hair on fire! We have three candidates, all who know our conditions on phone use, interested in the position - all college graduates with teaching experience.

We have a full time housekeeper to guarantee nanny’s breaks when my child has stopped napping; a house landline to contact nanny with any emergencies and, of course, her phone connected to her new watch. If she must make a call, she will be able to ask our housekeeper to stay with our child and step away.

You people are truly insane. Millions of people don’t keep their phones in their hands when working.

Thanks for the few who actually addressed my concerns. We will mention it in the contract as part of our working agreement.

No dear, you are the insane one.

Or living a fantasy - if you have a full-time housekeeper as well as “nanny,” why are you here asking for advice? Don’t you have a family lawyer to take care of employment contracts? If all your candidates are college educated with teaching experience, surely you are offering benefits and other perks that already require legal advice for the employment contract.

You’re just here to stir the pot.

I was on the fence until in saw that update, but now I'm completely convinced the op is just a troll who made up the whole thing.

[Anonymous]

nah- there are crazy new parents out there. It’s not a troll. And there are enough “ban all phones” people on here that she is probably convinced she’s doing the right thing.

I think she is going to have a hard time in life micromanaging her help, but that’s on her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The hysteria over asking someone not to use their phone for four hours at a time is emblematic of everything that is wrong with our generation. It’s actually embarrassing! Comparing no phone use until lunch break to slavery and idiot nannies claiming they use their phone to ask their grandma’s favorite poem.

This is so embarrassing for nannies and young parents alike.

Exactly! Young infants naps every 1.5-3 hours. Everyone should be able to go without checking their phone for that period of time. People are mentioning emergencies but that is obviously not what OP is talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We want to make it clear upfront that we will not accept any phone use when out baby is awake. We plan to put it in our ad and mention it during interviews. As suggested here, we plan to give our new nanny a new Apple Watch for emergencies. We are sure of our decision so no need to debate.

My question is how to include no phone use in a contract? Just state agreed to expectations or under cause for dismissal? Or after the ad, the interview and our reminding nanny, is it necessary to put into the contract at all?

np So do you hold yourself to the same high standard? Are you never on the phone when baby is awake?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hysteria over asking someone not to use their phone for four hours at a time is emblematic of everything that is wrong with our generation. It’s actually embarrassing! Comparing no phone use until lunch break to slavery and idiot nannies claiming they use their phone to ask their grandma’s favorite poem.

This is so embarrassing for nannies and young parents alike.

Exactly! Young infants naps every 1.5-3 hours. Everyone should be able to go without checking their phone for that period of time. People are mentioning emergencies but that is obviously not what OP is talking about.

I don’t think anyone’s arguing that one can’t possibly go that long without checking. But if you feel the need to put an outright ban in your contract, then you’re needlessly creating trust issues with someone who you’re entrusting with your baby’s life. There’s also no way to really enforce this unless OP spies on the nanny (or has the housekeeper do it), which just, again, creates trust issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow! So much hair on fire! We have three candidates, all who know our conditions on phone use, interested in the position - all college graduates with teaching experience.

We have a full time housekeeper to guarantee nanny’s breaks when my child has stopped napping; a house landline to contact nanny with any emergencies and, of course, her phone connected to her new watch. If she must make a call, she will be able to ask our housekeeper to stay with our child and step away.

You people are truly insane. Millions of people don’t keep their phones in their hands when working.

Thanks for the few who actually addressed my concerns. We will mention it in the contract as part of our working agreement.

dp Actually we think you are the insane one! But, thankfully we don't work for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And what a pot was stirred! It’s scary how addicted some of you are to your phones. It’s unhealthy and this thread proved it.

+ 1. And why parents choose daycare. Daycare workers aren’t allowed on their phones and they earn minimum wage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And what a pot was stirred! It’s scary how addicted some of you are to your phones. It’s unhealthy and this thread proved it.

+ 1. And why parents choose daycare. Daycare workers aren’t allowed on their phones and they earn minimum wage.

Right, the top reason people choose daycare over a nanny is because the workers aren’t allowed to use their phones. Totally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hysteria over asking someone not to use their phone for four hours at a time is emblematic of everything that is wrong with our generation. It’s actually embarrassing! Comparing no phone use until lunch break to slavery and idiot nannies claiming they use their phone to ask their grandma’s favorite poem.

This is so embarrassing for nannies and young parents alike.

Exactly! Young infants naps every 1.5-3 hours. Everyone should be able to go without checking their phone for that period of time. People are mentioning emergencies but that is obviously not what OP is talking about.

I don’t think anyone’s arguing that one can’t possibly go that long without checking. But if you feel the need to put an outright ban in your contract, then you’re needlessly creating trust issues with someone who you’re entrusting with your baby’s life. There’s also no way to really enforce this unless OP spies on the nanny (or has the housekeeper do it), which just, again, creates trust issues.

+1

The objections are to the level of control OP would like to exercise over this woman who is caring for her child. The idea that this woman is literally NOT ALLOWED to touch her phone for any reason while the baby is awake is a level of obsessive control that would make me extremely uncomfortable. In fact, it would make me particularly uncomfortable because I’m NOT addicted to my phone and rarely look at it while caring for a child. I don’t actually even like cell phones much. But if an employer went to these length to prevent me from using one, I would feel so disrespected and distrusted I would have a hard time functioning in that job. I would feel watched and judged all the time.

And I’m exactly the kind of person OP would like to hire! If I feel this way, good luck with anyone else. This is just a creepy, upsetting way to approach hiring a nanny.

[Anonymous]

I think you are just going to get a nanny who lies to you.