Advice - Moving to Bethesda

[Anonymous]

DD was a Discovery Player at BSC, though we decided not join.
Red flags:
- KL was fired from Good Counsel previously for being verbally abusive to the girls
- The parents defend the coaches at all cost (as seen on this thread). They will say things like “All the girls bond together and support each other when he yells at them. It’s like a little support group”. Nope. Sorry. Don’t need my DD to be part of a support group.
- The girls themselves are brainwashed into thinking they deserve these tyrants’ anger. They will say things like “He should yell at us. We deserved it because we made a mistake. We should stop making him mad.”

On the plus side, these are the most technically advanced, driven players DC-MD-VA. And they get results. The team we stayed with is not as advanced, but DD is happy. Gets tons of playing time. Is developing on and off the field and has the freedom to be creative, make mistakes, and grow as a player. We are happy we left. It wasn’t a good fit and was a very dark period in our lives. I don’t wish this on any kid or family and I do feel sorry for those we left behind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD was a Discovery Player at BSC, though we decided not join.
Red flags:
- KL was fired from Good Counsel previously for being verbally abusive to the girls
- The parents defend the coaches at all cost (as seen on this thread). They will say things like “All the girls bond together and support each other when he yells at them. It’s like a little support group”. Nope. Sorry. Don’t need my DD to be part of a support group.
- The girls themselves are brainwashed into thinking they deserve these tyrants’ anger. They will say things like “He should yell at us. We deserved it because we made a mistake. We should stop making him mad.”

On the plus side, these are the most technically advanced, driven players DC-MD-VA. And they get results. The team we stayed with is not as advanced, but DD is happy. Gets tons of playing time. Is developing on and off the field and has the freedom to be creative, make mistakes, and grow as a player. We are happy we left. It wasn’t a good fit and was a very dark period in our lives. I don’t wish this on any kid or family and I do feel sorry for those we left behind.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Was certainly the correct decision from your standpoint HOWEVER

1. Where you went wrong is your accusation of KL being fired. That is slander since there has been nothing to support that accusation other than here say.
2. "They"? Again, more here say and opinions. Again nobody is held at knife point to stay on a team if they feel it is too much. Have you ever heard of the saying "mentally tough" or "thick skin" or "can take criticism". All of those things are considered excellent qualities when joining the work force when they get older.
3. Brainwashed? "We should stop making making him mad?" This whole point of yours is a complete opinion hit piece as calling a youth coach a "tyrant" is a dead give away.

Instead of casting stones, you should have said KL or Bethesda was not a good fit for our daughter after giving it a try. It may work for some and may not for others. If you are looking for a top level club, get out and find what works best for your DC. Instead, you have chosen to come on an anonymous forum and insult a Club, Coaches, parents and players, all while not even having a child that was ever a FT player at Bethesda. I consider all posts like this low class and cowardly. While I am one of those "parent defenders", I also don't run around this forum and insult other clubs, coaches, parents, or players. Oh, and I do have plenty of opinions but hold myself to higher standard.

Have a good day. I am truly happy your daughter has found the right home as has mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD was a Discovery Player at BSC, though we decided not join.
Red flags:
- KL was fired from Good Counsel previously for being verbally abusive to the girls
- The parents defend the coaches at all cost (as seen on this thread). They will say things like “All the girls bond together and support each other when he yells at them. It’s like a little support group”. Nope. Sorry. Don’t need my DD to be part of a support group.
- The girls themselves are brainwashed into thinking they deserve these tyrants’ anger. They will say things like “He should yell at us. We deserved it because we made a mistake. We should stop making him mad.”

On the plus side, these are the most technically advanced, driven players DC-MD-VA. And they get results. The team we stayed with is not as advanced, but DD is happy. Gets tons of playing time. Is developing on and off the field and has the freedom to be creative, make mistakes, and grow as a player. We are happy we left. It wasn’t a good fit and was a very dark period in our lives. I don’t wish this on any kid or family and I do feel sorry for those we left behind.

The ole discovery player with mom rolling out the back round checks and fake dramatic quotes. Now she's free and happy from a very dark period of her life...and of course...mom feels bad for those they left behind. Translation - daughter ain't good, can't play soccer and doesn't belong in sports so mom comes on a nameless blog for therapy and to take free shots at coach and club. No one is defending anyone...you are entitled to you opinion. Since your daughter was abused...what did you do about it? you came on a nameless blog and trashed people? Well done.

[Anonymous]

So reading this thread, it sounds those who left had kids who couldn’t hack it? Either mentally or ability wise? For those that left, did your kid do well at another club and still compete at the level of BSC?

[Anonymous]

We love R. Burke. He wasn’t abusive at all. My DD developed so well under him. Players that hates him were either snowflakes, not talented enough and can’t handle the pressure. (I hope you can read the sarcasms.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD was a Discovery Player at BSC, though we decided not join.
Red flags:
- KL was fired from Good Counsel previously for being verbally abusive to the girls
- The parents defend the coaches at all cost (as seen on this thread). They will say things like “All the girls bond together and support each other when he yells at them. It’s like a little support group”. Nope. Sorry. Don’t need my DD to be part of a support group.
- The girls themselves are brainwashed into thinking they deserve these tyrants’ anger. They will say things like “He should yell at us. We deserved it because we made a mistake. We should stop making him mad.”

On the plus side, these are the most technically advanced, driven players DC-MD-VA. And they get results. The team we stayed with is not as advanced, but DD is happy. Gets tons of playing time. Is developing on and off the field and has the freedom to be creative, make mistakes, and grow as a player. We are happy we left. It wasn’t a good fit and was a very dark period in our lives. I don’t wish this on any kid or family and I do feel sorry for those we left behind.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Was certainly the correct decision from your standpoint HOWEVER

1. Where you went wrong is your accusation of KL being fired. That is slander since there has been nothing to support that accusation other than here say.
2. "They"? Again, more here say and opinions. Again nobody is held at knife point to stay on a team if they feel it is too much. Have you ever heard of the saying "mentally tough" or "thick skin" or "can take criticism". All of those things are considered excellent qualities when joining the work force when they get older.
3. Brainwashed? "We should stop making making him mad?" This whole point of yours is a complete opinion hit piece as calling a youth coach a "tyrant" is a dead give away.

Instead of casting stones, you should have said KL or Bethesda was not a good fit for our daughter after giving it a try. It may work for some and may not for others. If you are looking for a top level club, get out and find what works best for your DC. Instead, you have chosen to come on an anonymous forum and insult a Club, Coaches, parents and players, all while not even having a child that was ever a FT player at Bethesda. I consider all posts like this low class and cowardly. While I am one of those "parent defenders", I also don't run around this forum and insult other clubs, coaches, parents, or players. Oh, and I do have plenty of opinions but hold myself to higher standard.

Have a good day. I am truly happy your daughter has found the right home as has mine.

It’s “hearsay”. Hopefully with that “thick skin” and “mental toughness” you and your DD have, you can take the correction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We love R. Burke. He wasn’t abusive at all. My DD developed so well under him. Players that hates him were either snowflakes, not talented enough and can’t handle the pressure. (I hope you can read the sarcasms.)

R. Burke was cancelled because of one player complaint along with a few anonymous claims yet the guy has coached 1000s of players of his years. I will say if he was in fact making insensitive racist comments, than he deserves what he got HOWEVER, again, it is more anonymous claims. Let's not forget the Post has also gotten in trouble for anonymous claims before. Those so called jokes have never been quoted. Anonymous claims should not be taken seriously. Cowardly is what they are and nobody is ever held accountable.

Here is an example of a U-23 MAN complaining about abuse.
""The player, who spent roughly three months under Burke, said Burke would have belligerent, violent outbursts during training. Though Burke was never physically violent, as far as the player witnessed, he was insulting and aggressive. The player said that if he wasn’t being aggressive enough for Burke’s standards, then Burke would tell him to “man up” and “stop being a pussy.” The insults didn’t stop there; Burke also called the player “pathetic,” “a joke,” “moron,” and “a disgrace.”

The player confirmed that Burke regularly and casually used homophobic language, specifically the f-word. “He used the word f***ot multiple times,” the player said, elaborating that it was used both as an insult against players and in jokes Burke would make.""

LOL, he used the f- word. If I had a nickel for every U12 coach in the area who used the F- word, boys and girls, I'd be rich. Oh no, Burke told a young man to "man up". Oh the horror. "Stop being a pussy", ROFL, sounds like Burke was right. This player decided to to make a big deal about nothing and rat him out for trying to hold a young man accountable for his play.

What a joke some of you are. Pretty obvious to me none of these who complain ever played sports on a high level including just Varsity High School sports. I honestly do not know how some of your children are going to do in the real world work force. This kind of thing is nothing in comparison to the real world. Your child is going to be living in your basement for a very long time. Good luck to you. Hopefully KL or DG didn't damage your kid too much. SMH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD was a Discovery Player at BSC, though we decided not join.
Red flags:
- KL was fired from Good Counsel previously for being verbally abusive to the girls
- The parents defend the coaches at all cost (as seen on this thread). They will say things like “All the girls bond together and support each other when he yells at them. It’s like a little support group”. Nope. Sorry. Don’t need my DD to be part of a support group.
- The girls themselves are brainwashed into thinking they deserve these tyrants’ anger. They will say things like “He should yell at us. We deserved it because we made a mistake. We should stop making him mad.”

On the plus side, these are the most technically advanced, driven players DC-MD-VA. And they get results. The team we stayed with is not as advanced, but DD is happy. Gets tons of playing time. Is developing on and off the field and has the freedom to be creative, make mistakes, and grow as a player. We are happy we left. It wasn’t a good fit and was a very dark period in our lives. I don’t wish this on any kid or family and I do feel sorry for those we left behind.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Was certainly the correct decision from your standpoint HOWEVER

1. Where you went wrong is your accusation of KL being fired. That is slander since there has been nothing to support that accusation other than here say.
2. "They"? Again, more here say and opinions. Again nobody is held at knife point to stay on a team if they feel it is too much. Have you ever heard of the saying "mentally tough" or "thick skin" or "can take criticism". All of those things are considered excellent qualities when joining the work force when they get older.
3. Brainwashed? "We should stop making making him mad?" This whole point of yours is a complete opinion hit piece as calling a youth coach a "tyrant" is a dead give away.

Instead of casting stones, you should have said KL or Bethesda was not a good fit for our daughter after giving it a try. It may work for some and may not for others. If you are looking for a top level club, get out and find what works best for your DC. Instead, you have chosen to come on an anonymous forum and insult a Club, Coaches, parents and players, all while not even having a child that was ever a FT player at Bethesda. I consider all posts like this low class and cowardly. While I am one of those "parent defenders", I also don't run around this forum and insult other clubs, coaches, parents, or players. Oh, and I do have plenty of opinions but hold myself to higher standard.

Have a good day. I am truly happy your daughter has found the right home as has mine.

It’s “hearsay”. Hopefully with that “thick skin” and “mental toughness” you and your DD have, you can take the correction.

Thanks for the correction. Yeah, no problem here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

LOL, he used the f- word. If I had a nickel for every U12 coach in the area who used the F- word, boys and girls, I'd be rich. Oh no, Burke told a young man to "man up". Oh the horror. "Stop being a pussy", ROFL, sounds like Burke was right. This player decided to to make a big deal about nothing and rat him out for trying to hold a young man accountable for his play.

Read that wrong in the article, thought he was talking about the other F- word. Regardless, I'd bet on the player making things up in this case. Too many people around to tolerate that language. Sorry. I also don't think any coaches are actually dumb enough to use that word anymore, but I could be wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

LOL, he used the f- word. If I had a nickel for every U12 coach in the area who used the F- word, boys and girls, I'd be rich. Oh no, Burke told a young man to "man up". Oh the horror. "Stop being a pussy", ROFL, sounds like Burke was right. This player decided to to make a big deal about nothing and rat him out for trying to hold a young man accountable for his play.

Read that wrong in the article, thought he was talking about the other F- word. Regardless, I'd bet on the player making things up in this case. Too many people around to tolerate that language. Sorry. I also don't think any coaches are actually dumb enough to use that word anymore, but I could be wrong.

Ignorance is bliss in your case, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Yes it was the other "F" word:

“He used the word f***ot multiple times,”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD was a Discovery Player at BSC, though we decided not join.
Red flags:
- KL was fired from Good Counsel previously for being verbally abusive to the girls
- The parents defend the coaches at all cost (as seen on this thread). They will say things like “All the girls bond together and support each other when he yells at them. It’s like a little support group”. Nope. Sorry. Don’t need my DD to be part of a support group.
- The girls themselves are brainwashed into thinking they deserve these tyrants’ anger. They will say things like “He should yell at us. We deserved it because we made a mistake. We should stop making him mad.”

On the plus side, these are the most technically advanced, driven players DC-MD-VA. And they get results. The team we stayed with is not as advanced, but DD is happy. Gets tons of playing time. Is developing on and off the field and has the freedom to be creative, make mistakes, and grow as a player. We are happy we left. It wasn’t a good fit and was a very dark period in our lives. I don’t wish this on any kid or family and I do feel sorry for those we left behind.

Getting back on topic…..

The word on the street is that KL was not given a renewal at GC or Rush. Hence ending up at a very desperate BSC looking to add a coach to shake things up. I guess he’s shaken things up pretty well so far. LOL.

[Anonymous]

BET (s)HE'S DA(maged)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BET (s)HE'S DA(maged)

You keep making this “witty remark,” and it’s not particularly clever. Actually it’s kind of pathetic that a soccer club (which you or your kid is apparently not affiliated with) lives rent free in your head. Whatever time you keep spending in this thread or even this forum seems like it would be better spent making some kind of positive contribution to society. Instead, these posts epitomize the stereotype of a toxic soccer parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD was a Discovery Player at BSC, though we decided not join.
Red flags:
- KL was fired from Good Counsel previously for being verbally abusive to the girls
- The parents defend the coaches at all cost (as seen on this thread). They will say things like “All the girls bond together and support each other when he yells at them. It’s like a little support group”. Nope. Sorry. Don’t need my DD to be part of a support group.
- The girls themselves are brainwashed into thinking they deserve these tyrants’ anger. They will say things like “He should yell at us. We deserved it because we made a mistake. We should stop making him mad.”

On the plus side, these are the most technically advanced, driven players DC-MD-VA. And they get results. The team we stayed with is not as advanced, but DD is happy. Gets tons of playing time. Is developing on and off the field and has the freedom to be creative, make mistakes, and grow as a player. We are happy we left. It wasn’t a good fit and was a very dark period in our lives. I don’t wish this on any kid or family and I do feel sorry for those we left behind.

Getting back on topic…..

The word on the street is that KL was not given a renewal at GC or Rush. Hence ending up at a very desperate BSC looking to add a coach to shake things up. I guess he’s shaken things up pretty well so far. LOL.

Lol this is not "getting back on topic". OP asked about finding a club in Bethesda. Crazy girl soccer parents hijack every Bethesda (city) thread to love or hate bsc and whoever KL or DG are.

Starting to agree that girl's need their own subforum.