Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:Never forget Blake and Ryan’s racist asses got married near slaves chambers.

To be fair,
What multi millionaire millennial wasn’t married at an antebellum slave plantation? lol

Yes where is the hate at Affleck and Jlo? Reece Witherspoon and Ryan Phillipe?

Are you new here? A simple search can help you.

Not new and did a search of the forum. Clearly a slant to posts on Lively, barely a few posts on jlo/affleck. So yes I suspect intentional PR influence on this front.

There are super long threads hating in JLo. Not as sure about Reese -- if those threads, exist, they are older. But JLo has been heavily dragged on this site forever.

There's a lot of hate towards lively in here but I'd actually be surprised if there are PR plants on this website. It's too smalltime. More likely the PR folks focus on the really popular sites like deuxmoi on reddit. I do think some of the chatter from sites like that (including stuff planted by PR) finds it's way here, but I think it happens organically -- someone sees a story on reddit and posts it here.

This is a theory that kills all the British royals threads -- there are posters on here who think any post that is nice to MM is clearly a paid post. It's kind of funny. This website does not get enough traffic to get that treatment except maybe for local celebs.

This is the correct take. Some DC people just don't like Blske Lively and that's ok.

I think it’s one or two obsessed people who have been posting constantly. Most people don’t care much at all about her. And there seems to be a relationship that the more people dislike blake the more they like Justin and can’t say a negative word about him. Odd. The rest of the people say no matter what they think about blake they agree JB acted badly. But Blakes haters refuse to acknowledge any of her claims and instead talk about her wedding.

No I think people just don't care about Baldoni because he's not that famous. I don't think people like him -- he's just a non-entity. Lively is more ch more famous.

The negative feelings toward Lively precede this lawsuit AND precede the astroturf campaign against her this summer. Lively and Reynolds have been way overexposed the last few years and Lively in particular gets a lot of hate for that (probably partly because if misogyny but also because of substantive issues with her). I remember online hate on Lively way back when she tried to launch her lifestyle site (which failed, because it was bad and because she has never been likeable enough for that kind of venture). In fact I remember the criticism about the plantation wedding coinciding with criticism about Preserve (her lifestyle website) because both had this faux Southern belle vibe (Lively is a SoCal girl) that was weirdly inauthentic and out of step with the times. You don't see the same criticism of Reese Witherspoon because she actually is authentically southern. And while Meghan Markle gets tons of hate now, her lifestyle website (the Tig) was actually pretty successful because it was more authentic and had better content -- she only shuttered it because she was marrying Harry, whereas Lively's site was just a failure. That was 10 years ago -- hate on Lively is nothing new.

Thinking every negative thing you read about Lively online is a PR plant therefore doesn't make sense. A lot of people just do not like her and never have. I think some people are trying to decide whether to believe there allegations she's come out with, because they do in fact sound pretty bad, but people in general struggle with having sympathy for Lively due to her not being particularly likeable or popular.

[Anonymous]

This thread is looking more and more like the Johnny Depp DV trial social media massacre of Amber Heard.

The slanderous smear campaign was not OK. The conduct before she demanded reasonable adjustments was not OK

Insane levels of vitriol and stupid unfalsifiable claims against BL (eg millions of random Americans dislike her and her husband etc). I don’t have an opinion on her personally but I applaud her for taking on the misogynistic slander when most of us don’t have the resources.

She is not an every woman but so many of us have faced harassment in the work place and were not able to fight back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never forget Blake and Ryan’s racist asses got married near slaves chambers.

To be fair,
What multi millionaire millennial wasn’t married at an antebellum slave plantation? lol

Yes where is the hate at Affleck and Jlo? Reece Witherspoon and Ryan Phillipe?

Are you new here? A simple search can help you.

Not new and did a search of the forum. Clearly a slant to posts on Lively, barely a few posts on jlo/affleck. So yes I suspect intentional PR influence on this front.

There are super long threads hating in JLo. Not as sure about Reese -- if those threads, exist, they are older. But JLo has been heavily dragged on this site forever.

There's a lot of hate towards lively in here but I'd actually be surprised if there are PR plants on this website. It's too smalltime. More likely the PR folks focus on the really popular sites like deuxmoi on reddit. I do think some of the chatter from sites like that (including stuff planted by PR) finds it's way here, but I think it happens organically -- someone sees a story on reddit and posts it here.

This is a theory that kills all the British royals threads -- there are posters on here who think any post that is nice to MM is clearly a paid post. It's kind of funny. This website does not get enough traffic to get that treatment except maybe for local celebs.

This is the correct take. Some DC people just don't like Blske Lively and that's ok.

I think it’s one or two obsessed people who have been posting constantly. Most people don’t care much at all about her. And there seems to be a relationship that the more people dislike blake the more they like Justin and can’t say a negative word about him. Odd. The rest of the people say no matter what they think about blake they agree JB acted badly. But Blakes haters refuse to acknowledge any of her claims and instead talk about her wedding.

No I think people just don't care about Baldoni because he's not that famous. I don't think people like him -- he's just a non-entity. Lively is more ch more famous.

The negative feelings toward Lively precede this lawsuit AND precede the astroturf campaign against her this summer. Lively and Reynolds have been way overexposed the last few years and Lively in particular gets a lot of hate for that (probably partly because if misogyny but also because of substantive issues with her). I remember online hate on Lively way back when she tried to launch her lifestyle site (which failed, because it was bad and because she has never been likeable enough for that kind of venture). In fact I remember the criticism about the plantation wedding coinciding with criticism about Preserve (her lifestyle website) because both had this faux Southern belle vibe (Lively is a SoCal girl) that was weirdly inauthentic and out of step with the times. You don't see the same criticism of Reese Witherspoon because she actually is authentically southern. And while Meghan Markle gets tons of hate now, her lifestyle website (the Tig) was actually pretty successful because it was more authentic and had better content -- she only shuttered it because she was marrying Harry, whereas Lively's site was just a failure. That was 10 years ago -- hate on Lively is nothing new.

Thinking every negative thing you read about Lively online is a PR plant therefore doesn't make sense. A lot of people just do not like her and never have. I think some people are trying to decide whether to believe there allegations she's come out with, because they do in fact sound pretty bad, but people in general struggle with having sympathy for Lively due to her not being particularly likeable or popular.

I find it funny that you think MMs lifestyle site was ever successful. Very few people knew who she was before Harry.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never forget Blake and Ryan’s racist asses got married near slaves chambers.

To be fair,
What multi millionaire millennial wasn’t married at an antebellum slave plantation? lol

Yes where is the hate at Affleck and Jlo? Reece Witherspoon and Ryan Phillipe?

Are you new here? A simple search can help you.

Not new and did a search of the forum. Clearly a slant to posts on Lively, barely a few posts on jlo/affleck. So yes I suspect intentional PR influence on this front.

There are super long threads hating in JLo. Not as sure about Reese -- if those threads, exist, they are older. But JLo has been heavily dragged on this site forever.

There's a lot of hate towards lively in here but I'd actually be surprised if there are PR plants on this website. It's too smalltime. More likely the PR folks focus on the really popular sites like deuxmoi on reddit. I do think some of the chatter from sites like that (including stuff planted by PR) finds it's way here, but I think it happens organically -- someone sees a story on reddit and posts it here.

This is a theory that kills all the British royals threads -- there are posters on here who think any post that is nice to MM is clearly a paid post. It's kind of funny. This website does not get enough traffic to get that treatment except maybe for local celebs.

This is the correct take. Some DC people just don't like Blske Lively and that's ok.

I think it’s one or two obsessed people who have been posting constantly. Most people don’t care much at all about her. And there seems to be a relationship that the more people dislike blake the more they like Justin and can’t say a negative word about him. Odd. The rest of the people say no matter what they think about blake they agree JB acted badly. But Blakes haters refuse to acknowledge any of her claims and instead talk about her wedding.

No I think people just don't care about Baldoni because he's not that famous. I don't think people like him -- he's just a non-entity. Lively is more ch more famous.

The negative feelings toward Lively precede this lawsuit AND precede the astroturf campaign against her this summer. Lively and Reynolds have been way overexposed the last few years and Lively in particular gets a lot of hate for that (probably partly because if misogyny but also because of substantive issues with her). I remember online hate on Lively way back when she tried to launch her lifestyle site (which failed, because it was bad and because she has never been likeable enough for that kind of venture). In fact I remember the criticism about the plantation wedding coinciding with criticism about Preserve (her lifestyle website) because both had this faux Southern belle vibe (Lively is a SoCal girl) that was weirdly inauthentic and out of step with the times. You don't see the same criticism of Reese Witherspoon because she actually is authentically southern. And while Meghan Markle gets tons of hate now, her lifestyle website (the Tig) was actually pretty successful because it was more authentic and had better content -- she only shuttered it because she was marrying Harry, whereas Lively's site was just a failure. That was 10 years ago -- hate on Lively is nothing new.

Thinking every negative thing you read about Lively online is a PR plant therefore doesn't make sense. A lot of people just do not like her and never have. I think some people are trying to decide whether to believe there allegations she's come out with, because they do in fact sound pretty bad, but people in general struggle with having sympathy for Lively due to her not being particularly likeable or popular.

Nobody has to care about Lively or Baldoni to at least say the allegations are shocking. Funny how you STILL won't say it. Now we're talking about MM? Get lost.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is looking more and more like the Johnny Depp DV trial social media massacre of Amber Heard.

The slanderous smear campaign was not OK. The conduct before she demanded reasonable adjustments was not OK

Insane levels of vitriol and stupid unfalsifiable claims against BL (eg millions of random Americans dislike her and her husband etc). I don’t have an opinion on her personally but I applaud her for taking on the misogynistic slander when most of us don’t have the resources.

She is not an every woman but so many of us have faced harassment in the work place and were not able to fight back.

Except this thread was started in 2018, way predating Lively even working with Baldoni or a single allegation against him. Was there a 7 year old thread explicitly about people not liking Amber Heard before she married Depp? No. Lively is more famous than Heard and people have already firmed firm opinions of her, many negative.

It's not the same thing at all.

And I actually am on Lively's side regarding the harassment. No one deserves that, not even Blake Lively, who is annoying, entitled, and unpleasant. But the PR stuff? Eh. I don't care. A campaign like that only works if there's already a lot of negative sentiment about someone. Which there was, about Lively (and Reynolds, actually -- people are super tired of both of them).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is looking more and more like the Johnny Depp DV trial social media massacre of Amber Heard.

The slanderous smear campaign was not OK. The conduct before she demanded reasonable adjustments was not OK

Insane levels of vitriol and stupid unfalsifiable claims against BL (eg millions of random Americans dislike her and her husband etc). I don’t have an opinion on her personally but I applaud her for taking on the misogynistic slander when most of us don’t have the resources.

She is not an every woman but so many of us have faced harassment in the work place and were not able to fight back.

Except this thread was started in 2018, way predating Lively even working with Baldoni or a single allegation against him. Was there a 7 year old thread explicitly about people not liking Amber Heard before she married Depp? No. Lively is more famous than Heard and people have already firmed firm opinions of her, many negative.

It's not the same thing at all.

And I actually am on Lively's side regarding the harassment. No one deserves that, not even Blake Lively, who is annoying, entitled, and unpleasant. But the PR stuff? Eh. I don't care. A campaign like that only works if there's already a lot of negative sentiment about someone. Which there was, about Lively (and Reynolds, actually -- people are super tired of both of them).

A few pages were commented on in 2018. Then in blew up in August. About the same time the smear campaign started. Not a coincidence.

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To me it looks more like a coordinated effort against Baldoni because he is much lower on the Hollywood power structure than Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds.I had never even heard of Justin Baldoni until this movie, but I have known about Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds for years, even though I have never seen Gossip Girl or a Deadpool film.

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Anonymous wrote:To me it looks more like a coordinated effort against Baldoni because he is much lower on the Hollywood power structure than Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds.I had never even heard of Justin Baldoni until this movie, but I have known about Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds for years, even though I have never seen Gossip Girl or a Deadpool film.

Well it is a coordinated effort because what he has done may be illegal, retaliation for sexual harassment. It's not people just being mean.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never forget Blake and Ryan’s racist asses got married near slaves chambers.

To be fair,
What multi millionaire millennial wasn’t married at an antebellum slave plantation? lol

Yes where is the hate at Affleck and Jlo? Reece Witherspoon and Ryan Phillipe?

Are you new here? A simple search can help you.

Not new and did a search of the forum. Clearly a slant to posts on Lively, barely a few posts on jlo/affleck. So yes I suspect intentional PR influence on this front.

There are super long threads hating in JLo. Not as sure about Reese -- if those threads, exist, they are older. But JLo has been heavily dragged on this site forever.

There's a lot of hate towards lively in here but I'd actually be surprised if there are PR plants on this website. It's too smalltime. More likely the PR folks focus on the really popular sites like deuxmoi on reddit. I do think some of the chatter from sites like that (including stuff planted by PR) finds it's way here, but I think it happens organically -- someone sees a story on reddit and posts it here.

This is a theory that kills all the British royals threads -- there are posters on here who think any post that is nice to MM is clearly a paid post. It's kind of funny. This website does not get enough traffic to get that treatment except maybe for local celebs.

This is the correct take. Some DC people just don't like Blske Lively and that's ok.

I think it’s one or two obsessed people who have been posting constantly. Most people don’t care much at all about her. And there seems to be a relationship that the more people dislike blake the more they like Justin and can’t say a negative word about him. Odd. The rest of the people say no matter what they think about blake they agree JB acted badly. But Blakes haters refuse to acknowledge any of her claims and instead talk about her wedding.

No I think people just don't care about Baldoni because he's not that famous. I don't think people like him -- he's just a non-entity. Lively is more ch more famous.

The negative feelings toward Lively precede this lawsuit AND precede the astroturf campaign against her this summer. Lively and Reynolds have been way overexposed the last few years and Lively in particular gets a lot of hate for that (probably partly because if misogyny but also because of substantive issues with her). I remember online hate on Lively way back when she tried to launch her lifestyle site (which failed, because it was bad and because she has never been likeable enough for that kind of venture). In fact I remember the criticism about the plantation wedding coinciding with criticism about Preserve (her lifestyle website) because both had this faux Southern belle vibe (Lively is a SoCal girl) that was weirdly inauthentic and out of step with the times. You don't see the same criticism of Reese Witherspoon because she actually is authentically southern. And while Meghan Markle gets tons of hate now, her lifestyle website (the Tig) was actually pretty successful because it was more authentic and had better content -- she only shuttered it because she was marrying Harry, whereas Lively's site was just a failure. That was 10 years ago -- hate on Lively is nothing new.

Thinking every negative thing you read about Lively online is a PR plant therefore doesn't make sense. A lot of people just do not like her and never have. I think some people are trying to decide whether to believe there allegations she's come out with, because they do in fact sound pretty bad, but people in general struggle with having sympathy for Lively due to her not being particularly likeable or popular.

Wtat is this response? Witherspoon is "authentically southern" so gets excused for having her wedding at a plantation???? And Jlo? You are a plant.

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Anonymous wrote:To me it looks more like a coordinated effort against Baldoni because he is much lower on the Hollywood power structure than Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds.I had never even heard of Justin Baldoni until this movie, but I have known about Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds for years, even though I have never seen Gossip Girl or a Deadpool film.

A coordinated effort with backing by the author of the book and other cast members on set. Sure, sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is looking more and more like the Johnny Depp DV trial social media massacre of Amber Heard.

The slanderous smear campaign was not OK. The conduct before she demanded reasonable adjustments was not OK

Insane levels of vitriol and stupid unfalsifiable claims against BL (eg millions of random Americans dislike her and her husband etc). I don’t have an opinion on her personally but I applaud her for taking on the misogynistic slander when most of us don’t have the resources.

She is not an every woman but so many of us have faced harassment in the work place and were not able to fight back.

Except this thread was started in 2018, way predating Lively even working with Baldoni or a single allegation against him. Was there a 7 year old thread explicitly about people not liking Amber Heard before she married Depp? No. Lively is more famous than Heard and people have already firmed firm opinions of her, many negative.

It's not the same thing at all.

And I actually am on Lively's side regarding the harassment. No one deserves that, not even Blake Lively, who is annoying, entitled, and unpleasant. But the PR stuff? Eh. I don't care. A campaign like that only works if there's already a lot of negative sentiment about someone. Which there was, about Lively (and Reynolds, actually -- people are super tired of both of them).

A few pages were commented on in 2018. Then in blew up in August. About the same time the smear campaign started. Not a coincidence.

It was almost 10 pages over the course of years and then blew up in August because that's when her movie came out. She then had multiple product launches in the same few short months. And the same time rumors were swirling about a fall out with Baldoni on set, and Lively seriously botched the promotion for the movie (giving a glib and weird answer to question about how DV survivors could be helped by the movie, and being super weird with the whole "grab your friends, wear your florals!" campaign).

This thread blew up because of Lively's career/game peaking and her own actions. Not because some PR flak is camping on DCUM hoping to sway the opinions of a small group of DC area moms.

To the degree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is looking more and more like the Johnny Depp DV trial social media massacre of Amber Heard.

The slanderous smear campaign was not OK. The conduct before she demanded reasonable adjustments was not OK

Insane levels of vitriol and stupid unfalsifiable claims against BL (eg millions of random Americans dislike her and her husband etc). I don’t have an opinion on her personally but I applaud her for taking on the misogynistic slander when most of us don’t have the resources.

She is not an every woman but so many of us have faced harassment in the work place and were not able to fight back.

Except this thread was started in 2018, way predating Lively even working with Baldoni or a single allegation against him. Was there a 7 year old thread explicitly about people not liking Amber Heard before she married Depp? No. Lively is more famous than Heard and people have already firmed firm opinions of her, many negative.

It's not the same thing at all.

And I actually am on Lively's side regarding the harassment. No one deserves that, not even Blake Lively, who is annoying, entitled, and unpleasant. But the PR stuff? Eh. I don't care. A campaign like that only works if there's already a lot of negative sentiment about someone. Which there was, about Lively (and Reynolds, actually -- people are super tired of both of them).

A few pages were commented on in 2018. Then in blew up in August. About the same time the smear campaign started. Not a coincidence.

It was almost 10 pages over the course of years and then blew up in August because that's when her movie came out. She then had multiple product launches in the same few short months. And the same time rumors were swirling about a fall out with Baldoni on set, and Lively seriously botched the promotion for the movie (giving a glib and weird answer to question about how DV survivors could be helped by the movie, and being super weird with the whole "grab your friends, wear your florals!" campaign).

This thread blew up because of Lively's career/game peaking and her own actions. Not because some PR flak is camping on DCUM hoping to sway the opinions of a small group of DC area moms.

To the degree

Read the comments on page 9. It starts off with people just calling her mean, repeating why they don't like her, or other crap. Nobody was talking about the movie. Get real.

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Anonymous wrote:To me it looks more like a coordinated effort against Baldoni because he is much lower on the Hollywood power structure than Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds.I had never even heard of Justin Baldoni until this movie, but I have known about Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds for years, even though I have never seen Gossip Girl or a Deadpool film.

A coordinated effort with backing by the author of the book and other cast members on set. Sure, sure.

I actually think it's hard to deny that Lively and Reynolds have been coordinating an attack on Baldoni (legally and in the press) with their lawyers and PR people since the strike hiatus. I think the attack was prompted by Baldoni's on set behavior, so he brought it on himself, but it's pretty clear that the lawsuit and recent PR attack (including the NYT piece that was quite clearly planted by Lively's team and is kind of weird in it's focus) are part of a multi step and coordinated campaign. They are incredibly wealthy and no doubt see this as a necessary action to protect their brand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is looking more and more like the Johnny Depp DV trial social media massacre of Amber Heard.

The slanderous smear campaign was not OK. The conduct before she demanded reasonable adjustments was not OK

Insane levels of vitriol and stupid unfalsifiable claims against BL (eg millions of random Americans dislike her and her husband etc). I don’t have an opinion on her personally but I applaud her for taking on the misogynistic slander when most of us don’t have the resources.

She is not an every woman but so many of us have faced harassment in the work place and were not able to fight back.

Except this thread was started in 2018, way predating Lively even working with Baldoni or a single allegation against him. Was there a 7 year old thread explicitly about people not liking Amber Heard before she married Depp? No. Lively is more famous than Heard and people have already firmed firm opinions of her, many negative.

It's not the same thing at all.

And I actually am on Lively's side regarding the harassment. No one deserves that, not even Blake Lively, who is annoying, entitled, and unpleasant. But the PR stuff? Eh. I don't care. A campaign like that only works if there's already a lot of negative sentiment about someone. Which there was, about Lively (and Reynolds, actually -- people are super tired of both of them).

A few pages were commented on in 2018. Then in blew up in August. About the same time the smear campaign started. Not a coincidence.

It was almost 10 pages over the course of years and then blew up in August because that's when her movie came out. She then had multiple product launches in the same few short months. And the same time rumors were swirling about a fall out with Baldoni on set, and Lively seriously botched the promotion for the movie (giving a glib and weird answer to question about how DV survivors could be helped by the movie, and being super weird with the whole "grab your friends, wear your florals!" campaign).

This thread blew up because of Lively's career/game peaking and her own actions. Not because some PR flak is camping on DCUM hoping to sway the opinions of a small group of DC area moms.

To the degree

Read the comments on page 9. It starts off with people just calling her mean, repeating why they don't like her, or other crap. Nobody was talking about the movie. Get real.

That's how it always works though. Go and read prior posts after breaks in the thread. Suddenly she's top of mind because she's in the news and people will pop into the thread complaining about her. That's how these threads often work.

You are hearing hoofbeats and thing zebras. But this thread isn't unusual and all by DCUM standards. This is just how threads like this work on this website. The higher the profile, the bigger the hate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To me it looks more like a coordinated effort against Baldoni because he is much lower on the Hollywood power structure than Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds.I had never even heard of Justin Baldoni until this movie, but I have known about Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds for years, even though I have never seen Gossip Girl or a Deadpool film.

A coordinated effort with backing by the author of the book and other cast members on set. Sure, sure.

I actually think it's hard to deny that Lively and Reynolds have been coordinating an attack on Baldoni (legally and in the press) with their lawyers and PR people since the strike hiatus. I think the attack was prompted by Baldoni's on set behavior, so he brought it on himself, but it's pretty clear that the lawsuit and recent PR attack (including the NYT piece that was quite clearly planted by Lively's team and is kind of weird in it's focus) are part of a multi step and coordinated campaign. They are incredibly wealthy and no doubt see this as a necessary action to protect their brand.

Now explain why Baldoni launched a preemptive strike.