What's going on with FCBEscola NOVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.

And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.

I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...

1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.

2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.

Sure you're not.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:
"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?

I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."

Nothing critical in that at all.

You literally turned "two" into "tons." How Trumpian of you.

Nothing in that is critical of the club. It’s critical of you.

No, I never made any of those claims. I wasn't involved in the discussion about players moving at all. I only got involved to address your dishonest attack, and then your equally dishonest attempt at walking it back when others called you on it.

Thin skinned much?

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.

And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.

I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...

1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.

2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.

Sure you're not.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:
"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?

I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."

Nothing critical in that at all.

You literally turned "two" into "tons." How Trumpian of you.

Nothing in that is critical of the club. It’s critical of you.

No, I never made any of those claims. I wasn't involved in the discussion about players moving at all. I only got involved to address your dishonest attack, and then your equally dishonest attempt at walking it back when others called you on it.

Thin skinned much?

LOL

He was perfectly in bounds with what he wrote. Others who read this thread feel exactly the same about the few thread wardens who regularly post here, including you. Your tone and content gives you away every time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.

And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.

I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...

1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.

2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.

Sure you're not.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:
"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?

I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."

Nothing critical in that at all.

You literally turned "two" into "tons." How Trumpian of you.

Nothing in that is critical of the club. It’s critical of you.

No, I never made any of those claims. I wasn't involved in the discussion about players moving at all. I only got involved to address your dishonest attack, and then your equally dishonest attempt at walking it back when others called you on it.

Thin skinned much?

LOL

He was perfectly in bounds with what he wrote. Others who read this thread feel exactly the same about the few thread wardens who regularly post here, including you. Your tone and content gives you away every time.

Why do you care if people at a club are happy? There are certainly threads that are full of anger and venom about clubs so it is not as if people will not speak their mind if they are unhappy.

If you don't like what parents have to say then go to Evergreen and watch for yourself and come to your own conclusion. That has been a consistent tone from pretty much all of the pro Barca "zealots". Either go there and form your own educated opinion or just STFU about people being happy with the club they are at.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.

And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.

I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...

1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.

2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.

Sure you're not.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:
"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?

I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."

Nothing critical in that at all.

You literally turned "two" into "tons." How Trumpian of you.

Nothing in that is critical of the club. It’s critical of you.

No, I never made any of those claims. I wasn't involved in the discussion about players moving at all. I only got involved to address your dishonest attack, and then your equally dishonest attempt at walking it back when others called you on it.

Thin skinned much?

LOL

He was perfectly in bounds with what he wrote. Others who read this thread feel exactly the same about the few thread wardens who regularly post here, including you. Your tone and content gives you away every time.

Gee, I don't know why Monica got so defensive about her new born, I only said what a big head her baby had and then she becomes this pro "her baby zealot"! Sheesh, some people are just cray cray.

[Anonymous]

You guys are only proving the point. And there have been club parents who have pointed out negatives. They have been trashed the same as RSD, the “outsider.”

Keep the propaganda going, I’m sure it’s really working. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.

And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.

I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...

1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.

2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.

Sure you're not.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:
"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?

I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."

Nothing critical in that at all.

You literally turned "two" into "tons." How Trumpian of you.

Nothing in that is critical of the club. It’s critical of you.

No, I never made any of those claims. I wasn't involved in the discussion about players moving at all. I only got involved to address your dishonest attack, and then your equally dishonest attempt at walking it back when others called you on it.

Thin skinned much?

LOL

He was perfectly in bounds with what he wrote. Others who read this thread feel exactly the same about the few thread wardens who regularly post here, including you. Your tone and content gives you away every time.

I have no issue with valid criticisms of what Barca is lacking. I've posted a few myself. RSD's "gist of it post" was factually incorrect. That's not being defensive; that's expecting anyone - most of all a journalist - to post accurate information. If someone doesn't, then that poster should expect to be called out on it. RSD is no exception.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys are only proving the point. And there have been club parents who have pointed out negatives. They have been trashed the same as RSD, the “outsider.”

Keep the propaganda going, I’m sure it’s really working. LOL

Also factually incorrect: when I've posted valid criticisms, I've gotten zero push back.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.

And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.

I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...

1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.

2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.

Sure you're not.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:
"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?

I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."

Nothing critical in that at all.

You literally turned "two" into "tons." How Trumpian of you.

Nothing in that is critical of the club. It’s critical of you.

No, I never made any of those claims. I wasn't involved in the discussion about players moving at all. I only got involved to address your dishonest attack, and then your equally dishonest attempt at walking it back when others called you on it.

Thin skinned much?

LOL

He was perfectly in bounds with what he wrote. Others who read this thread feel exactly the same about the few thread wardens who regularly post here, including you. Your tone and content gives you away every time.

I have no issue with valid criticisms of what Barca is lacking. I've posted a few myself. RSD's "gist of it post" was factually incorrect. That's not being defensive; that's expecting anyone - most of all a journalist - to post accurate information. If someone doesn't, then that poster should expect to be called out on it. RSD is no exception.

gist
noun
1. the substance or essence of a speech or text.

Feel free to disagree with my assessment of the "gist" of those pages. You can say it's hyperbole.

To say it's "factually incorrect" is itself factually incorrect.

Also, headlines in The Onion aren't real. They're just painfully close.

I truly don't want to get into a "ping pong" with you - or anyone. It has no value. However, this is the one thread where your posts seem to have a bias. So, let me give it a chance and see if I have misunderstood you.

Are you saying your post factually correct, or was it an attempt at an Onion post? The Onion articles I read were factually incorrect and intended to make fun of people's misconceptions?

Factually incorrect based on all the misconceptions and incorrect concepts in there: such as "tons of VDA players".

If it was an "Onion" post and you were trying to be sarcastic and funny but recognize the fallacies in it, then I'll say ok. I didn't pick up on it, but I'll accept that and leave it be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys are only proving the point. And there have been club parents who have pointed out negatives. They have been trashed the same as RSD, the “outsider.”

Keep the propaganda going, I’m sure it’s really working. LOL

Also factually incorrect: when I've posted valid criticisms, I've gotten zero push back.

Good for you; you must be special! Many valid criticisms here have been attacked, not just RSD's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys are only proving the point. And there have been club parents who have pointed out negatives. They have been trashed the same as RSD, the “outsider.”

Keep the propaganda going, I’m sure it’s really working. LOL

Also factually incorrect: when I've posted valid criticisms, I've gotten zero push back.

Good for you; you must be special! Many valid criticisms here have been attacked, not just RSD's.

Oh dear, someone didn’t agree with a valid criticism, they must be zealots!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys are only proving the point. And there have been club parents who have pointed out negatives. They have been trashed the same as RSD, the “outsider.”

Keep the propaganda going, I’m sure it’s really working. LOL

Also factually incorrect: when I've posted valid criticisms, I've gotten zero push back.

Good for you; you must be special! Many valid criticisms here have been attacked, not just RSD's.

Oh dear, someone didn’t agree with a valid criticism, they must be zealots!

I think you’re confusing posters again. Or off your meds.

[Anonymous]

RSD, you are welcome to post here, including things that are critical. This is an open forum. As a Barca parent, I recommend that you visit and observe any Barca's training session once the training resumes after the break. I know that you are probably busy, but you seem to be interested in the program and this is the best way to have an informed opinion or corroborate things that you hear from others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RSD, you are welcome to post here, including things that are critical. This is an open forum. As a Barca parent, I recommend that you visit and observe any Barca's training session once the training resumes after the break. I know that you are probably busy, but you seem to be interested in the program and this is the best way to have an informed opinion or corroborate things that you hear from others.

This thread should be renamed to the Ike and Tina Turner show

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RSD, you are welcome to post here, including things that are critical. This is an open forum. As a Barca parent, I recommend that you visit and observe any Barca's training session once the training resumes after the break. I know that you are probably busy, but you seem to be interested in the program and this is the best way to have an informed opinion or corroborate things that you hear from others.

This thread should be renamed to the Ike and Tina Turner show

Ike who? Geezuz you are old.

[Anonymous]

Wheels keep on turning?