Protests on college campuses

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White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

Bold.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally how quiet it’s gotten here - where have all the unhinged Hamas supporters gone?

Crickets. Maybe they’re finally embarrassed? Doubtful, but maybe.

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Anonymous wrote:Can they build a wall around Hamilton?

I don’t see why not. As defenders of democratic values they have the right, neigh the obligation, to protect the campus from political operatives and the military. Double points if they are Native American descendants, they can claim a birthright to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

Bold.

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Biden might as well have told them, “Don’t.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

Bold.

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There is no statue of limitations on war crimes.

Bold.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

Bold.

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Biden might as well have told them, “Don’t.”

It wasn’t even Biden himself. It was something on the Junior Varsity Comms Team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

Bold.

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Biden might as well have told them, “Don’t.”

It wasn’t even Biden himself. It was something on the Junior Varsity Comms Team.

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I love this picture so much.

I don't love that it's from Fox news but no way in hell that's a college student. A-hole paid protestors doing nothing but stirring up division.

At what point do these college students need to take some responsibility for the divisive people protesting alongside them?

On both the right and the left, this is a problem. And both sides are afraid to call out their more extreme members and prefer to just pretend that they aren't responsible.

The problem is that both sides are treated so differently (in particular by the media) on this issue.

Yes- Jan 6th rioters were treated like criminals and these protesters - calling for violence and intifada - are being treated with kid gloves likened to civil rights activists.

I'm not condoning calling for violence and intifada, but it doesn't rise to the same level as actually perpetrating violence and intifada, which the J6 rioters did.

I think breaking into private property as the Columbia rioters have done, refusing to leave private campus, and preventing Jewish students from passing through to get to class - as occurred on UCLA’s campus- should certainly be considered trespassing, vandalizing, and harassment, respectively. Their message is a lot less palatable when they use violent and aggressive tactics. This is not civil disobedience.

They have a right to protest lawfully. You don’t get to violate the law as you protest and then whine because you were arrested or expelled for violating the laws or the rules of your school. I am a Gen Xer who was engaged in political protest starting in college. I have marched, rallied, and protested on many occasions. I always knew that if I broke the law while doing it that I would face the consequences. I came from a working class background and knew that getting arrested would not only hurt me but wouldn’t help the cause I was supporting. BTW—we did protest apartheid and successfully persuaded our college to divest from South Africa. We didn’t do that by smashing windows and essentially acting the a terrorist military force.

I want to see who is in that building at Columbia. This is not your Boomer 60’s takeover or your Gen X apartheid takeover or other antiwar protests. These students seem like professional protesters and yes, there are people who fund this sh** just like there are people who were paid to attend Trump’s rallies. Not saying the same people are paying or organizing but making the point that there are groups who create crisis or actively escalate conflict that are not coeds.

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Anonymous wrote:The College Democrats of America, which is officially part of the Democratic national committee and has 100,000 members in college democrat chapters across the country, has released a statement in support of student protesters for having “the moral clarity to see this war for what it is: destructive, genocidal and unjust,”

They also criticized Biden's policy in regards to the war and called for a permanent ceasefire.

The statement was put out by the executive board by a vote of 8-2.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/30/us/politics/biden-israel-college-protest.html

So now the College Democrats hate their Democrat Party. Get the popcorn, y’all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

Bold.

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With hundreds of countries and tens of thousands of companies as options for investing, some American colleges are choosing to stick with investing in a country charged with war crimes and whose credit rating is at junk level.

It is quite an irrational approach to both moral values and investing. Unless of course you care for neither….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

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Good statement. Various schools around the country are dealing with this, with different approaches and different results. The president doesn't need to add fuel to any of it. A low-key rejection of the violent protesting at Columbia is the right tone to take, IMHO.

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Anonymous wrote:White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

Bold.

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With hundreds of countries and tens of thousands of companies as options for investing, some American colleges are choosing to stick with investing in a country charged with war crimes and whose credit rating is at junk level.

It is quite an irrational approach to both moral values and investing. Unless of course you care for neither….

I agree with you that there are many available choices.

Students can “divest” themselves from these universities by withdrawing. Then find an institution in alignment with their investing value.

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Anonymous wrote:White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

Bold.

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With hundreds of countries and tens of thousands of companies as options for investing, some American colleges are choosing to stick with investing in a country charged with war crimes and whose credit rating is at junk level.

It is quite an irrational approach to both moral values and investing. Unless of course you care for neither….

The only viable solution is to get out of the Middle East.

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Anonymous wrote:White House statement on Columbia’s illegal takeover: “This is the wrong approach.”

Bold.

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With hundreds of countries and tens of thousands of companies as options for investing, some American colleges are choosing to stick with investing in a country charged with war crimes and whose credit rating is at junk level.

It is quite an irrational approach to both moral values and investing. Unless of course you care for neither….

I can see your morals...

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I love this picture so much.

I don't love that it's from Fox news but no way in hell that's a college student. A-hole paid protestors doing nothing but stirring up division.

At what point do these college students need to take some responsibility for the divisive people protesting alongside them?

On both the right and the left, this is a problem. And both sides are afraid to call out their more extreme members and prefer to just pretend that they aren't responsible.

The problem is that both sides are treated so differently (in particular by the media) on this issue.

Yes- Jan 6th rioters were treated like criminals and these protesters - calling for violence and intifada - are being treated with kid gloves likened to civil rights activists.

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It’s truly mind-boggling to see the difference in treatment. These protesters are animals and should be treated as such. Masked rioters, breaking windows and barricading themselves inside buildings? Where’s the SWAT team?

And these thugs shouldn’t just be “suspended,” they should be expelled. With an arrest record.

Zero Jan 6 insurrectionists were arrested on Jan 6. They beat up police, destroyed the capitol, etc and were all allowed to just go home. On the other hand, lots of these students are getting arrested. So yes, there’s a big difference in treatment.

More than 450 of the January 6th protesters have gone to jail. Hopefully the same fate will befall the pro-Hamas students running riot at Columbia.

+1 and any non-American protesters should be deported.

People have rights you moron. You don't get to just ship off people who say and do things you don't like. That's the freedom you idiots never stop bleeting about. It cuts both ways.

DT.

FTR, it's not at all clear legally whether/when the US government can deport noncitizens for their speech.

See Reno vs. AAADC, Kleindienst, Galvan, etc.

So it's entirely possible that the government could seek to deport noncitizen students who participate in protests.

Judiciary just spoke out on this issue. If a student is on visa and it’s determined he’s engaging in supporting terrorism (Hamas is recognized as terror organization), then he can be immediately deported.

Related, but not quite the same issue.

Question is: can a nonresident be deported from the US solely for the content of their speech?

Answer is: maybe.

Would not be surprised if Trump tested this if he's elected.