Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL

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[Post New]02/02/2022 02:09
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Anonymous
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33194862/brian-flores-sues-nfl-others-former-miami-dolphins-coach-alleges-racism-hiring-practices

Seems like the fix was in for the NYG job - wonder if Belichick texted him on purpose, knowing it was a sham?

John Elway doesn't look too good, either.

Not sure how the league can claim there's no racism when only one coach is Black in a league where 70% of the players are Black.

[Post New]02/02/2022 06:57
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33194862/brian-flores-sues-nfl-others-former-miami-dolphins-coach-alleges-racism-hiring-practices

Seems like the fix was in for the NYG job - wonder if Belichick texted him on purpose, knowing it was a sham?

John Elway doesn't look too good, either.

Not sure how the league can claim there's no racism when only one coach is Black in a league where 70% of the players are Black.


This lawsuit is LONG overdue. I’m so glad Bellichick stupidly exposed a scheme that has long been obvious to any thinking person. The determination not to hire or retain black head coaches absolutely is racist discrimination. The discrimination against black quarterbacks is the same and is only beginning to change in the past 20 years. The idea that black people can’t and shouldn’t run things is completely and wholly racist. Anyone trying to debate this is just tipping their hand and exposing themselves as a racist who supports racism.
[Post New]02/02/2022 07:18
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Anonymous
Dolphins owner Stephen Ross wanting to pay Flores to throw games for a better draft pick, coupled with Ross owning a piece of a sports gambling outfit, is the biggest thing to come out of this. I’m thinking the NFL may drum Ross out of ownership.
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:31
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Anonymous wrote:Dolphins owner Stephen Ross wanting to pay Flores to throw games for a better draft pick, coupled with Ross owning a piece of a sports gambling outfit, is the biggest thing to come out of this. I’m thinking the NFL may drum Ross out of ownership.


If they haven’t gotten rid of Snyder yet … not sure this is any worse.
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:32
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dolphins owner Stephen Ross wanting to pay Flores to throw games for a better draft pick, coupled with Ross owning a piece of a sports gambling outfit, is the biggest thing to come out of this. I’m thinking the NFL may drum Ross out of ownership.


If they haven’t gotten rid of Snyder yet … not sure this is any worse.

I hate Snyder more than anybody but offering to pay your coach extra to lose games is worse.
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:35
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33194862/brian-flores-sues-nfl-others-former-miami-dolphins-coach-alleges-racism-hiring-practices

Seems like the fix was in for the NYG job - wonder if Belichick texted him on purpose, knowing it was a sham?

John Elway doesn't look too good, either.

Not sure how the league can claim there's no racism when only one coach is Black in a league where 70% of the players are Black.



What? One has nothing whatsoever to do with the other. Owners want winners. Players and coaches are two different things. Give me the name of a bankable black coach and I'm sure he'd have a great shot at getting hired. This isn't affirmative action like college or government employment.
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:38
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dolphins owner Stephen Ross wanting to pay Flores to throw games for a better draft pick, coupled with Ross owning a piece of a sports gambling outfit, is the biggest thing to come out of this. I’m thinking the NFL may drum Ross out of ownership.


If they haven’t gotten rid of Snyder yet … not sure this is any worse.


Throwing games while pushing for legalized gambling isn’t a good look and may be criminal
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:39
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33194862/brian-flores-sues-nfl-others-former-miami-dolphins-coach-alleges-racism-hiring-practices

Seems like the fix was in for the NYG job - wonder if Belichick texted him on purpose, knowing it was a sham?

John Elway doesn't look too good, either.

Not sure how the league can claim there's no racism when only one coach is Black in a league where 70% of the players are Black.



What? One has nothing whatsoever to do with the other. Owners want winners. Players and coaches are two different things. Give me the name of a bankable black coach and I'm sure he'd have a great shot at getting hired. This isn't affirmative action like college or government employment.


Studies have been done showing that black coaches are generally held to a much higher standard in terms of immediate results and in terms of sustained results. Flores getting fired is actually a great example
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:39
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Anonymous
Good for him. The NFL is just a trash bag institution.
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:40
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dolphins owner Stephen Ross wanting to pay Flores to throw games for a better draft pick, coupled with Ross owning a piece of a sports gambling outfit, is the biggest thing to come out of this. I’m thinking the NFL may drum Ross out of ownership.


If they haven’t gotten rid of Snyder yet … not sure this is any worse.

I hate Snyder more than anybody but offering to pay your coach extra to lose games is worse.


Worse than sexually assaulting women, okay.

Then firing all the cheerleaders when they win a lawsuit. Okay!
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:49
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Anonymous
? It's not "racist" to pay a coach to throw games to preserve the team's draft position. Flores is speculating that Ross wouldn't have done exactly the same thing with a white coach?
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:52
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:? It's not "racist" to pay a coach to throw games to preserve the team's draft position. Flores is speculating that Ross wouldn't have done exactly the same thing with a white coach?


Maybe not, but the NFL has to settle if you get to discovery or risk Ross having to sit down and discuss throwing games under oath
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:55
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Anonymous
I was surprised the Dolphins fired Flores, but now I understand why. He didn't want to tank his team. I wonder if others will come forward.
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:58
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:? It's not "racist" to pay a coach to throw games to preserve the team's draft position. Flores is speculating that Ross wouldn't have done exactly the same thing with a white coach?


Maybe not, but the NFL has to settle if you get to discovery or risk Ross having to sit down and discuss throwing games under oath


Yes, very embarrassing for him, and probably some severe repercussions with the league - but it's not racist and has no probative value whatsoever with regard to the lawsuit.
[Post New]02/02/2022 08:59
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:? It's not "racist" to pay a coach to throw games to preserve the team's draft position. Flores is speculating that Ross wouldn't have done exactly the same thing with a white coach?


Maybe not, but the NFL has to settle if you get to discovery or risk Ross having to sit down and discuss throwing games under oath


Yes, very embarrassing for him, and probably some severe repercussions with the league - but it's not racist and has no probative value whatsoever with regard to the lawsuit.


^ So maybe the whole thing is just an effort to embarrass Ross?
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