Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims
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Anonymous
And yet, you have no logical response for the criticism that Baldoni kept insisting on trying to film inappropriate and unscripted climaxing and nudity and sex for a film that he knew was PG-13. It makes no sense beyond Baldoni not having appropriate boundaries. Especially where the young actors involved were playing underage characters, and when the filming was during the strike where people who might have protected the actors were not on set. This was the behavior Lively was complaining about and there is no excuse for it. Comparing the filming to BLUE VALENTINE just drives the point home even harder. Baldoni is supposed to know this stuff. But his reported conversations with Lively about how Baldoni always made his wife climax simultaneously and didn’t Ryan and Lively experience that also make Baldoni sound inappropriately obsessed with filming sex for a movie where your rating says you can’t show it. |
Anonymous
When Harry Met Sally and Sinners are both rated R. Thanks for making my point. |
Anonymous
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Bottom line : no one was ‘offended’ at one of the hottest directors in Hollywood (and one of the hottest movie stars in Hollywood) on their sex scenes for the Sinners movie.
But you guys are offended that Baldoni, like Coogler, called for several sex scenes from several different actresses, and poor Blake thought they were in bad taste. Tell that to Hailee Steinfeld and Michael B Jordan. Hailee will be happy to take on Blakes role in the next edition, regardless of who directs. Or a Jennifer Lawrence or a host of other actresses. Get Scarlett back! Shit she did that drama with Adam Driver! There are so many other actresses that Baldoni can and should work with going forward. Next |
Anonymous
You’re not making any sense. Sinners was rated R and you can show some simulated sex in those movies. Filming such scenes would not be a waste that would end in the cutting room floor because they couldn’t be shown in your movie with a PG-13 rating like IEWU. For Baldoni to insist on them was a waste and some sort of weird ego trip. They do not appear in the final cut. Not sure what is so hard about this for you to understand but you seem to be having a tough time with grasping the logic of why filming these scenes was problematic for Baldoni and specifically different from the context of an R movie. |
Anonymous
My bigger point is this. Blake cries wolf on cue. She can’t hack it with the best directors and/or the best actresses out there who deliver on these roles. I’ve never seen someone who constantly sexualizes comments in emails with co-workers and bosses, does the same in interviews, actively provokes the discussion, actively takes liberty in sexual provocativeness and innuendo in movies, and then says “gotcha”, it’s sexual harassment on benign ( an extra glance) or non-existent (birthing video) sexual claims. I guarantee that most of Hollywood men will not ever want to work with her. Nor most Hollywood women for that matter. Maybe Salma and Jenny Slate. That’s about it. |
Anonymous
You are the ego trip honey. Blake is so yesterday and cautionary for all of Hollywood. She is cancelled. Moving on. |
Anonymous
DP but exactly: Sinners is R rated, the character in question is not underage and the actress portraying the character is an experienced actress, not doing her very first movie. I hope that it was scripted and discussed with the actress and the IC beforehand, there's certainly no indication from anyone involved that anyone was forced into it. Sinners is also explicitly a movie about people exploring the boundaries of human pleasure, the sex scenes in the movie are intentionally meant to draw parallels to the joyful abandon of jazz music and of doing things you aren't "supposed" to do. Compare that to IEWU, where the it is alleged that Baldoni suggested the on screen climax the day of filming, that the actress in question was uncomfortable with it but that he pressured her, that it was her first movie and she may not have known her rights with regards to something like this in a sex scene, and that Baldoni allegedly made inappropriately sexual comments after the scene to "compliment" the actors on their portrayal. And it's not only a PG-13 movie but it's about domestic violence -- the movie is about a woman regaining her sense of control over her entire life (not just her sexual experiences) after coming to grips with abuse. Totally different situations and movies. When people object to how the sex scenes in IEWU were allegedly handled, it's not because of some prudish desire to not show sex on screen or discomfort with female pleasure. It's because Baldoni allegedly pressured actresses into portraying sex acts they weren't comfortable with and that, in some cases, he made these changes last minute without giving the actresses time to negotiate what they were comfortable portraying on screen, the use of body doubles, etc. None of those problems seemed to be at issue in Sinners or, to reference another R-rated film referenced in the thread, Blue Valentine. There are no allegations from the actresses in those movies that those scenes weren't handled professionally and appropriately. There is an allegation that Baldoni failed to handle the sex and nudity in IEWU professionally or respectfully. That's the point. |
Anonymous
You are choosing to skirt over the real problematic issues with Baldoni insisting on filming inappropriate sex scenes depicting underage characters for no good reason. Which you can neither explain nor excuse, so you just say “hey, look over there instead.” That’s gross of you. Baldoni should not have done that but you hate her so much you’re excusing it and insisting that she wasn’t trying to fix a real problem your boy created. That is extremely gross of you. |
Anonymous
You didn’t answer my question and I didn’t bring up Sinners, that was a different poster. You are the same poster who was offended by the birth video, no? An attempt to film women enjoying sex is not inherently dirty or worthy of a R rating. You seem to be extremely uncomfortable with female nudity and sexuality. |
Anonymous
Blake has the ability to chose to use a body double, it was her choice not to. Thus far, there has been no one else complaining about how IEWU was filmed. |
Anonymous
lol, no, I’m no prude, I’m a realist. I am saying the movie was PG-13 and not R, and neither men nor women climax onscreen in PG-13 movies. Baldoni is limited in what female sexuality and nudity he can show in his PG-13 movie. So insisting on filming climaxing and nudity that can never make it to the final cut (much less springing it on the actors and actresses without notice) is unprofessional of the director in charge, who should know better. Don’t know how else I or the other poster can explain this in a way you can understand. You seem to have some sort of mental block about it. |
Anonymous
| Female OR MALE sexuality |
Anonymous
Who are you? A 15 year old? Who says this? It’s so “entitled”. The bottom line is that Blake is a fake. Isabel had nothing but positive things to say about Baldoni’s directing on this film. No one complained about discomfort with Baldoni —just Blake, along with all of her other exaggerations. |
Anonymous
Isabella was 22 during filming. Not underage. |
Anonymous
Keep deflecting and failing to provide any good reason why Baldoni should insist on shooting unscripted sex, climaxing, and nudity that would by necessity need to wind up on the cutting room floor. (PS: this was Ferrer’s first film and she’s not in a real position to complain if she wants to work again, even if she’s George Clooney’s cousin/niece/whatever.). Your boy was harassing these women for no good reason except maybe his own weird power trip. |