Government Shutdown - Sep 2025 Thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of people say things like "history will be on their side." I 100% agree. but there are times when I question if anyone ever cares about history anymore? that means nothing in America anymore. what a sad and dumb country.

I am a historian (furloughed!) and I had a hard realization about a decade ago that learning more history doesn't actually help you avoid repeating the wrongs of the past if people have bad *values.* Like, if you study the Civil War or WW2 and come out of it still a white supremacist, your horrible morals overruled any lessons you should have taken. Hitler is widely quoted as drawing on the Armenian genocide as an example to follow, for instance.

Why does the federal government need historians? Waste of money if you ask me.

Don't worry, I'll probably be fired shortly. Certainly, the Smithsonian Museum of American History, Library of Congress, and National Register of Historic Places don't need historians. There's absolutely nothing historic in the government.

I think this is what is wrong with America - trump people they know how to run the government and know everything. As in I know what the government does and they don't need a historical. The level of ignorance that = someone knowing enough to be dangerous is breathtaking

[Anonymous]

This, and the FY26 Senate budgets are actually not bad for most agencies. It’s the House bills and President’s proposed budget that have the large cuts. That’s another reason it’s silly to expend political capital in the Senate now on a clean CR, which also did not have cuts and maintains spending level from the last Biden budget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This, and the FY26 Senate budgets are actually not bad for most agencies. It’s the House bills and President’s proposed budget that have the large cuts. That’s another reason it’s silly to expend political capital in the Senate now on a clean CR, which also did not have cuts and maintains spending level from the last Biden budget.

+1. This is why I am perplexed too- I feel like they are wasting political capital that would be better spent later. Like what are they realistically going to get out of this? You know Schumer will blink before Trump does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This, and the FY26 Senate budgets are actually not bad for most agencies. It’s the House bills and President’s proposed budget that have the large cuts. That’s another reason it’s silly to expend political capital in the Senate now on a clean CR, which also did not have cuts and maintains spending level from the last Biden budget.

But we’ve already seen that the admin won’t spend what’s appropriated. So what’s to stop them from implementing their proposed cuts in the CR?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, and the FY26 Senate budgets are actually not bad for most agencies. It’s the House bills and President’s proposed budget that have the large cuts. That’s another reason it’s silly to expend political capital in the Senate now on a clean CR, which also did not have cuts and maintains spending level from the last Biden budget.

But we’ve already seen that the admin won’t spend what’s appropriated. So what’s to stop them from implementing their proposed cuts in the CR?

Nothing and the SC allowed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, and the FY26 Senate budgets are actually not bad for most agencies. It’s the House bills and President’s proposed budget that have the large cuts. That’s another reason it’s silly to expend political capital in the Senate now on a clean CR, which also did not have cuts and maintains spending level from the last Biden budget.

+1. This is why I am perplexed too- I feel like they are wasting political capital that would be better spent later. Like what are they realistically going to get out of this? You know Schumer will blink before Trump does.

It's because they and their supporters do not know how to win against Mr Trump. They have tried everything and always failed. They took this shutdown route because YOU criticized them last time mercilessly for caving. Now they took a hard line and YOU are now saying they shouldn't have. This sums up the state of the Democratic party and their strategy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, and the FY26 Senate budgets are actually not bad for most agencies. It’s the House bills and President’s proposed budget that have the large cuts. That’s another reason it’s silly to expend political capital in the Senate now on a clean CR, which also did not have cuts and maintains spending level from the last Biden budget.

+1. This is why I am perplexed too- I feel like they are wasting political capital that would be better spent later. Like what are they realistically going to get out of this? You know Schumer will blink before Trump does.

It's because they and their supporters do not know how to win against Mr Trump. They have tried everything and always failed. They took this shutdown route because YOU criticized them last time mercilessly for caving. Now they took a hard line and YOU are now saying they shouldn't have. This sums up the state of the Democratic party and their strategy.

Not quite. PP above had it right. We have been told at our agency that we should plan for the request as our spending projections under the CR. Senate mark and last year’s appropriations were more than double. Vought is not going to act in good faith.

[Anonymous]

The air traffic controllers and the TSA could end this situation quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of people say things like "history will be on their side." I 100% agree. but there are times when I question if anyone ever cares about history anymore? that means nothing in America anymore. what a sad and dumb country.

I am a historian (furloughed!) and I had a hard realization about a decade ago that learning more history doesn't actually help you avoid repeating the wrongs of the past if people have bad *values.* Like, if you study the Civil War or WW2 and come out of it still a white supremacist, your horrible morals overruled any lessons you should have taken. Hitler is widely quoted as drawing on the Armenian genocide as an example to follow, for instance.

Why does the federal government need historians? Waste of money if you ask me.

Don't worry, I'll probably be fired shortly. Certainly, the Smithsonian Museum of American History, Library of Congress, and National Register of Historic Places don't need historians. There's absolutely nothing historic in the government.

I think this is what is wrong with America - trump people they know how to run the government and know everything. As in I know what the government does and they don't need a historical. The level of ignorance that = someone knowing enough to be dangerous is breathtaking

They know history better than you think. They are following Hitler's rise to power letter by letter - just like the Nazi's did, he is dismantling democracy through Constitutional means. As Hitler said, "We must crowd back the opponent on constitutional grounds or a struggle will be conducted with other weapons, which may demand greater sacrifices..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, and the FY26 Senate budgets are actually not bad for most agencies. It’s the House bills and President’s proposed budget that have the large cuts. That’s another reason it’s silly to expend political capital in the Senate now on a clean CR, which also did not have cuts and maintains spending level from the last Biden budget.

But we’ve already seen that the admin won’t spend what’s appropriated. So what’s to stop them from implementing their proposed cuts in the CR?

Nothing and the SC allowed it.

Is SCOTUS getting paid during this shutdown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, and the FY26 Senate budgets are actually not bad for most agencies. It’s the House bills and President’s proposed budget that have the large cuts. That’s another reason it’s silly to expend political capital in the Senate now on a clean CR, which also did not have cuts and maintains spending level from the last Biden budget.

But we’ve already seen that the admin won’t spend what’s appropriated. So what’s to stop them from implementing their proposed cuts in the CR?

Nothing and the SC allowed it.

Is SCOTUS getting paid during this shutdown?

Yes, courts keep running on fees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now Vought is saying RIFs will happen in the next day or two. Well they do like holidays and tomorrow is Yom Kippur—so I guess we’ll get the atonement RIFs?

Democrats need to end this.
Don’t treat us like political footballs because they can’t win elections.

I loathe the Trump administration, but I agree.

Politically and logically, the time to fight was the first go-round. People were fired up and the timing there might have blunted some of what Trump is doing/was doing. That was the time to take a stand and get your base behind you so when you have to deal they are not so disillusioned. Now, the stand is on this sort of complicated ACA subsidy issue. There's time to deal on the subsidies, and it's a weak hand anyway because it's something easy for the GOP to give up before the end of the year when the subsidies will end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, and the FY26 Senate budgets are actually not bad for most agencies. It’s the House bills and President’s proposed budget that have the large cuts. That’s another reason it’s silly to expend political capital in the Senate now on a clean CR, which also did not have cuts and maintains spending level from the last Biden budget.

+1. This is why I am perplexed too- I feel like they are wasting political capital that would be better spent later. Like what are they realistically going to get out of this? You know Schumer will blink before Trump does.

It's because they and their supporters do not know how to win against Mr Trump. They have tried everything and always failed. They took this shutdown route because YOU criticized them last time mercilessly for caving. Now they took a hard line and YOU are now saying they shouldn't have. This sums up the state of the Democratic party and their strategy.

Not quite. PP above had it right. We have been told at our agency that we should plan for the request as our spending projections under the CR. Senate mark and last year’s appropriations were more than double. Vought is not going to act in good faith.

He will act in good faith you just might get fired.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is my first rodeo with a shutdown. We have some cushion financially, but not a lot. Is there anywhere for centralized information on things like filing for unemployment (can we?), banks that might give no interest loans, etc?

Thanks.

We got paid this week and you’ll get a check in two weeks for the full week and 2 days plus orderly shut down time logged, so you’ll miss your first bit of pay (2.5 days worth) in two weeks if this drags that long. So hopefully it wont even come to that.

DP - I didn't realize that. Good news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The air traffic controllers and the TSA could end this situation quickly.

Flying is a luxury not a necessity.