ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/DV_PvkUDSyM/?img_index=4

Looks like we've got another USYS club thats figured out how grade works with SY.

Did you even read slide 2 and slide 3?

Basically, the grade is "grade for most" and players may play up if appropriate and finding the right fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/862950587191584/posts/3485203544966262/

Aug birthday parent asking if playing on a grade down team with screw up college recruiting for their kid.

Predictability commenters suggest having the kid play up so they're not misaligned.

That oversimplifies their responses. You really miss the good advice in there that's my individual and totally echoes what the ECNL guy is saying. For example:

Each situation is unique depending on where she would like/be able to play, so only sharing our experience.
My son took a gap year since he had the opportunity to play with a much higher level team with more exposure. He graduated with his class, but then spent a year playing with the new team. This led to offers he did not have prior.. I will say that he already had interaction/relationships with coaches prior to the gap year . (Adding that for context and your consideration in this discussion). .

He ended up at a school that was more desirable to him and a better fit as a result of that gap year.

I would recommend that you do your homework on what her teams exposure to coaches will be by taking the gap year ( beyond more film although that is important too) since coaches need to see her play in person in many cases. It also helps if he will play for a team during that gap year that colleges coaches either have relationships with and/or respect. That made a gap year a good move for my son as exposure and relationships were better with the gap year team.

Regarding when they should apply to schools, there are pros and cons to consider. Your daughter should have more “free time” to apply to schools if they are in that gap year since they won’t be knee-deep in senior year classes, but I could also argue that if she doesn’t get in through Soccer, the schools she applies to may want to know what else she was doing during that time off. Her use of time could be seen as a pro or a con depending on how competitive the school is to get into . Another consideration , if for some reason, it seems like the college Soccer journey is not going to continue because of an unexpected injury, etc She could regret not applying to schools with the rest of her classmates. And having to wait a year while she watches them experience freshman year on social media.

The injury part often gets overlooked.

[Anonymous]

I still think this one ...

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger (May include Senior/Junior)
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger (May include Senior/Junior/Sophomore)
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger (May include Junior/Sophomore/Freshman)
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger (May include Sophomore/Freshman/8th grade)
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger (May include Freshman/8th grade/7th grade)
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger (May include 8th grade/7th grade/6th grade)
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger (May include 7th grade/6th grade/5th grade)
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger (May include 6th grade/5th grade/4th grade)
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger (May include 5th grade/4th grade/3rd grade)
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger (May include 4th grade/3rd grade/2nd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger (May include 3rd grade/2nd grade/1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger (May include 2nd/grade/1st grade/kindergarten)
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger (May include 1st grade/kindergarten/Pre-school)

[Anonymous]

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

[Anonymous]

Grades for most kids by year

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior and younger
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior and younger

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophomore and younger
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman and younger
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th and younger
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th and younger
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th and younger
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th and younger
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th and younger
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd and younger
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd and younger
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st and younger
8/1/2021 and younger = Kindergarten and younger

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Not sure if you think it's cool that you're including white text coloring. I just notice that, scroll on by and have no idea what above even means!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grades for most kids by year

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior and younger
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior and younger

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophomore and younger
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman and younger
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th and younger
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th and younger
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th and younger
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th and younger
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th and younger
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd and younger
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd and younger
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st and younger
8/1/2021 and younger = Kindergarten and younger

That's simple and fair as long as you include the first line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/DV_PvkUDSyM/?img_index=4

Looks like we've got another USYS club thats figured out how grade works with SY.

Did you even read slide 2 and slide 3?

Basically, the grade is "grade for most" and players may play up if appropriate and finding the right fit.

He clearly doesn't bother to read what he finds. Most if not all of the info to go against grades has been from his citations in posts, like the guy who said under the previous SY about 5 percent of players were misaligned Aug kids.

[Anonymous]

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1580147174118917&id=100063709473312

Another Facebook thread where a parent with a Seotember birthday kid is asking about what to do this fall. All the comments suggest playing up so they're not misaligned when its time for college recruiting.

Im starting ti see a pattern here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grades for most kids by year

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior and younger
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior and younger

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophomore and younger
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman and younger
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th and younger
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th and younger
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th and younger
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th and younger
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th and younger
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd and younger
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd and younger
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st and younger
8/1/2021 and younger = Kindergarten and younger

That's simple and fair as long as you include the first line.

Mathematically wrong doesnt address all edge caess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grades for most kids by year

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior and younger
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior and younger

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophomore and younger
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman and younger
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th and younger
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th and younger
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th and younger
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th and younger
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th and younger
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd and younger
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd and younger
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st and younger
8/1/2021 and younger = Kindergarten and younger

That's simple and fair as long as you include the first line.

Mathematically wrong doesnt address all edge caess.

There's no perfect age matrix for this country other than listing the ages with sending people to link describing all the possibilities concerning grade (if one cares).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8cases.
most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Not sure if you think it's cool that you're including white text coloring. I just notice that, scroll on by and have no idea what above even means!

Yea I added a watermark so when age guy cuts and pastes my work he shows everyone how dumb he is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grades for most kids by year

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior and younger
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior and younger

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophomore and younger
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman and younger
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th and younger
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th and younger
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th and younger
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th and younger
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th and younger
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd and younger
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd and younger
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st and younger
8/1/2021 and younger = Kindergarten and younger

That's simple and fair as long as you include the first line.

Mathematically wrong doesnt address all edge caess.

There's no perfect age matrix for this country other than listing the ages with sending people to link describing all the possibilities concerning grade (if one cares).

Um yes there is and its been posted on this thread multiple times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grades for most kids by year

8/1/2009 and younger = Senior and younger
8/1/2009 and younger = Junior and younger

8/1/2011 and younger = Sophomore and younger
8/1/2012 and younger = Freshman and younger
8/1/2013 and younger = 8th and younger
8/1/2014 and younger = 7th and younger
8/1/2015 and younger = 6th and younger
8/1/2016 and younger = 5th and younger
8/1/2017 and younger = 4th and younger
8/1/2018 and younger = 3rd and younger
8/1/2019 and younger = 2nd and younger
8/1/2020 and younger = 1st and younger
8/1/2021 and younger = Kindergarten and younger

That's simple and fair as long as you include the first line.

Mathematically wrong doesnt address all edge caess.

There's no perfect age matrix for this country other than listing the ages with sending people to link describing all the possibilities concerning grade (if one cares).

Um yes there is and its been posted on this thread multiple times.

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Age guy doesnt understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Age guy doesnt understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Age guy doesnt understand math
Still 100% correct.
Age guy doesnt understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Age guy doesnt understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten
Age guy doesnt understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Age guy doesnt understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1580147174118917&id=100063709473312

Another Facebook thread where a parent with a Seotember birthday kid is asking about what to do this fall. All the comments suggest playing up so they're not misaligned when its time for college recruiting.

Im starting ti see a pattern here.

Oh yeah, ALL the comments ...

She is in a great spot because she will be one of the oldest on her team so likely bigger and faster. Statistically the kids in the oldest 1/3 of any age banding do better and get more playing time in athletics. My kid was part of the first switch from Aug cut off to birth year. She will adjust and be just fine.