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DP. Self-defense is a defense to murder, it doesn't make the murder go away. If you're trying to assert that defense here for Rittenhouse. He murdered people. They are dead and he killed them. |
| Wow, the police literally guided Rittenhouse to the protestors. |
Wrong. Murder is an unlawful killing. A successful affirmative defense to the charge of murder renders the killing lawful or justified. |
There’s no defense for crossing state lines to murder people. |
But there is a defense for crossing state lines and killing someone—in this particular instance it is self defense. Your use of the word “murder” as a legal term is the problem. You won’t know if legally this was murder until after the trial. Right now, the prosecution alleges murder and the defense alleges a justified, lawful killings via self defense. The verdict will legally determine who is right. |
Thank you! There are people calling the kid who killed the convicted pedophile who was on tape screaming the n word the same night a white supremacist. That Rosenbaum isn’t a household name like Heather Heyer just tells you how corrupt outlets like CNN and MSNBC are. Everyone knows if some anti vax protester was shot at an anti vax protest with Rosenbaum’s criminal history they would show that person shouting the n word on a loop and delve into every sordid detail of the children this person abused. A lot of you people need to take off your ideological blinders and not keep going to bat against a kid who killed a literal monster in Rosenbaum. I defy anyone here to read the charging documents in Rosenbaum’s case where he abused two siblings who were no older than 12 in Arizona and come back to the thread with the same energy. |
| Is it true that Rittenhouse was shouting "Friend" right before he killed someone? |
He did not cross state lines to murder people. He killed a pedophile who was screaming the n word on tape earlier than night and who had just come from a mental hospital. This pedophile chased this 16 year old boy into a corner and lunged at him. Those are the facts. |
These are the victims, none of them deserved to be injured or killed. Who was Rittenhouse? He was a little punk, with a big gun, who eventually would have ended up in jail sooner or later? Sadly he had to take out 3 people before that happened. And I don't care what these 3 men did, they aren't on trial, two are dead and one has experienced great pain and suffering, and may well for the rest of his life. The victims aren't on trial. The little sociopath is a cold-blooded killer, and he deserves to have the rest of his life ruined over this. Only his mama is going to care about him in a few years, so not sure why you all are getting all riled up on this. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/01/us/kyle-rittenhouse-shooting-victims-trial/index.html There are 3 million people in this country, in this grand scheme of things this itty bitty little nobody, is nothing, who cares if he gets locked up for the next 30 years, get him out of here, put him somewhere where he can't hurt anyone else, behind a big wall in a big cage. It's going to take him about 30 years to grow up and really think about what he did, let him go nutso in prison. The midwest is better off without him roaming free. |
And the fact is that Rittenhouse didn’t know any of that. He wanted to feel like a white supremacist big boy and so he went out shooting. |
Something tells me you've used the word a few times yourself, and in the pejorative, I might add. Rosenbaum was seriously mentally ill. And for the record, he was shouting daring another armed militia moron to "Shoot me, n-- !" Not to a black person. Check your facts, disinformation fail, protesters were trying to help Rosenbaum, to get him out of the way of harm, they clearly weren't mad about the n-word or the way he used it. So why do you misconstrue the context and pretend to care?. Rosenbaum had also just been released from the hospital for trying to commit suicide (for the second time in 2 months), for whatever crimes he committed in his past, he did his time, 14 years. Rittenhouse shot 3 people whose names we know, he shot at more than just those three, anytime someone tried to stop him, be a hero, he shot them over and over again, there is something seriously wrong with someone like that, like, preschool to prison pipeline crazy. He brought those crazy genes to Wisconsin with him. He's the gun nut who needs to be locked up. Where does he go from here, 17 and he clearly has no conscience, His intent to kill each and every one of the people he shot at. He wasn't there to protect anyone, he was there to "bag some ducks". I've never killed anything, but I'd have to guess ducks=dead people, he was there to kill protestors, his mom told him to go and "bag some ducks", the whole family is gutter trash. On the other hand, Rittenhouse suffered as a child, he was molested/raped on a daily basis by his stepfather. He was a kid, and his mom, a drunk, who did nothing to protect him, and then she got herself locked up for 2 years and he had only met his dad twice so off he went to foster care, where he probably continued to be molested, and or raped, became addicted to meth and heroin. All of this before the age of 18. 18 with an ACE score of 10. I can't even imagine what kind of trauma this man endured and no one tried to help him. WTH. He did what someone did to him, doesn't make it right, but it explains a lot. And again he paid for his crimes. He went to prison for 14 years. When he was released from the hospital he had nowhere to go, he was homeless, bipolar, and sleeping on the streets. I have empathy for this person because he never had a chance, and for people like that I think maybe things could have been different for him. Unless you have a similar sob story for Rittenhouse, other than his bad genes and trash family of origin, I have no sympathy for him, and even if he was as troubled as the others, he still needs to be convicted and go to jail for a long time. |
| He seems like a kid with terrible judgment, who wanted live out video game fantasies. |
I guess he could have let himself be killed or seriously injured.
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Or, you know, not brought a gun. Then he wouldn't have shot anyone. And he wouldn't have been tackled by others who were trying to disarm him. |
Bring the gun was a legal act. |