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if they are lurking here anyway pretending to be parents they might as well answer questions and provide information

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Anonymous wrote:All clubs send tryout notices to their rec programs. Call it whatever you want, but of course they do. CYA and SYA are Valor's rec programs. They send their coaches in to assist with the rec programs, and they conduct coaching education for the rec coaches who want to go to them. I see nothing wrong with this.

My kids played SYA rec for several years before they played Valor and we never met or saw a Valor coach "assisting" with their teams. only volunteers. Didn't see any Valor people at all until tryouts. My sister coached a season and the coaching class was run by the head SYA soccer guy, not Valor. (the all star coach was a teenager and he was paid.)

I think you just don't know how to identify these folks. RO who runs SYA also works for valor. He isn't in a valor uniform but typically just a black on black adidas outfit. The all star coaches are valor kids, and the people running the tournaments are all SYA/valor mix. Rec league coaches are not affiliated with valor but the refereeing program is.

Soccer academy which is heavily promoted by valor and SYA (not sure about CYA) has an affiliation to one of the VALOR coaches.

BTW I would not recommend any Soccer academy program. Take your money to SYC if you are in need of a soccer summer camp.

This makes perfect sense, let's drive 45 mins to Springfield for summer camp and an orange shirt.

This is the Rec league mentality. You are in the correct club.

Valor is nothing more than a glorified CYA/SYA rec plus league.

It's all glorified rec/ncsl around here. Rec>NCSL>RL is there really much of a difference besides price? Maybe a few pockets of success but generally speaking the quality of soccer isn't changing significantly.

Have you seen the rec players after U10 and above? It's filled with filled with kids that are just doing it because their parents want them to have some activity or for socialization. You'll NEVER hear about some rec kid at u15 tearing it up and playing at top level. Rec is rec and that is fine. However, they are not in the same league as NCSL or ECNL RL. You are delusional. I keep hearing you rec guys compare rec players to 3rd or 4th team players. How about trying to compare them to 1st or 2nd team? Any game would likely end 100-0. The end! And at least a kid on the 3rd or 4th team will have a shot to improve and try to make a higher team if they put the work in and stay in the system. Rec players will be nothing more than kids passing time and maybe having a few laughs with friends... and there is nothing wrong with that. But don't think for a second they are in the same category as kids playing at a higher level in travel.

Having said that Valor is the bottom of the barrel for travel teams and their feeder club CYA is a bottom feeder rec league. SYA is decent and should have never merged with CYA to form this abomination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stevie Alabi îs FANTASTIC. Huge pick up for Valor, giant loss for GFR. He was instrumental in developing the U9-U12 program at GFR. Lucky for us he is coaching in our child's age group at Valor. Registered for their tryouts today.

+1 Current GFR parent, huge loss for GFR

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Anonymous wrote:Stevie Alabi îs FANTASTIC. Huge pick up for Valor, giant loss for GFR. He was instrumental in developing the U9-U12 program at GFR. Lucky for us he is coaching in our child's age group at Valor. Registered for their tryouts today.

Oh Valor Marketing Person. This was so close to authentic sounding but the bolded line and the "instrumental" sentence gave you away.

Valor has entered the chat

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Anonymous wrote:All clubs send tryout notices to their rec programs. Call it whatever you want, but of course they do. CYA and SYA are Valor's rec programs. They send their coaches in to assist with the rec programs, and they conduct coaching education for the rec coaches who want to go to them. I see nothing wrong with this.

My kids played SYA rec for several years before they played Valor and we never met or saw a Valor coach "assisting" with their teams. only volunteers. Didn't see any Valor people at all until tryouts. My sister coached a season and the coaching class was run by the head SYA soccer guy, not Valor. (the all star coach was a teenager and he was paid.)

I think you just don't know how to identify these folks. RO who runs SYA also works for valor. He isn't in a valor uniform but typically just a black on black adidas outfit. The all star coaches are valor kids, and the people running the tournaments are all SYA/valor mix. Rec league coaches are not affiliated with valor but the refereeing program is.

Soccer academy which is heavily promoted by valor and SYA (not sure about CYA) has an affiliation to one of the VALOR coaches.

BTW I would not recommend any Soccer academy program. Take your money to SYC if you are in need of a soccer summer camp.

This makes perfect sense, let's drive 45 mins to Springfield for summer camp and an orange shirt.

This is the Rec league mentality. You are in the correct club.

Valor is nothing more than a glorified CYA/SYA rec plus league.

It's all glorified rec/ncsl around here. Rec>NCSL>RL is there really much of a difference besides price? Maybe a few pockets of success but generally speaking the quality of soccer isn't changing significantly.

Have you seen the rec players after U10 and above? It's filled with filled with kids that are just doing it because their parents want them to have some activity or for socialization. You'll NEVER hear about some rec kid at u15 tearing it up and playing at top level. Rec is rec and that is fine. However, they are not in the same league as NCSL or ECNL RL. You are delusional. I keep hearing you rec guys compare rec players to 3rd or 4th team players. How about trying to compare them to 1st or 2nd team? Any game would likely end 100-0. The end! And at least a kid on the 3rd or 4th team will have a shot to improve and try to make a higher team if they put the work in and stay in the system. Rec players will be nothing more than kids passing time and maybe having a few laughs with friends... and there is nothing wrong with that. But don't think for a second they are in the same category as kids playing at a higher level in travel.

Having said that Valor is the bottom of the barrel for travel teams and their feeder club CYA is a bottom feeder rec league. SYA is decent and should have never merged with CYA to form this abomination.

I don't think there are really any rec parents posting in here and why would they know or care about valor. seems to be all travel parents and the valor marketin guy. are you the same person who posted over and over again about having the cops called on you at a rec game? sound like the same person.

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Anonymous wrote:All clubs send tryout notices to their rec programs. Call it whatever you want, but of course they do. CYA and SYA are Valor's rec programs. They send their coaches in to assist with the rec programs, and they conduct coaching education for the rec coaches who want to go to them. I see nothing wrong with this.

My kids played SYA rec for several years before they played Valor and we never met or saw a Valor coach "assisting" with their teams. only volunteers. Didn't see any Valor people at all until tryouts. My sister coached a season and the coaching class was run by the head SYA soccer guy, not Valor. (the all star coach was a teenager and he was paid.)

I think you just don't know how to identify these folks. RO who runs SYA also works for valor. He isn't in a valor uniform but typically just a black on black adidas outfit. The all star coaches are valor kids, and the people running the tournaments are all SYA/valor mix. Rec league coaches are not affiliated with valor but the refereeing program is.

Soccer academy which is heavily promoted by valor and SYA (not sure about CYA) has an affiliation to one of the VALOR coaches.

BTW I would not recommend any Soccer academy program. Take your money to SYC if you are in need of a soccer summer camp.

This makes perfect sense, let's drive 45 mins to Springfield for summer camp and an orange shirt.

This is the Rec league mentality. You are in the correct club.

Valor is nothing more than a glorified CYA/SYA rec plus league.

It's all glorified rec/ncsl around here. Rec>NCSL>RL is there really much of a difference besides price? Maybe a few pockets of success but generally speaking the quality of soccer isn't changing significantly.

Have you seen the rec players after U10 and above? It's filled with filled with kids that are just doing it because their parents want them to have some activity or for socialization. You'll NEVER hear about some rec kid at u15 tearing it up and playing at top level. Rec is rec and that is fine. However, they are not in the same league as NCSL or ECNL RL. You are delusional. I keep hearing you rec guys compare rec players to 3rd or 4th team players. How about trying to compare them to 1st or 2nd team? Any game would likely end 100-0. The end! And at least a kid on the 3rd or 4th team will have a shot to improve and try to make a higher team if they put the work in and stay in the system. Rec players will be nothing more than kids passing time and maybe having a few laughs with friends... and there is nothing wrong with that. But don't think for a second they are in the same category as kids playing at a higher level in travel.

Having said that Valor is the bottom of the barrel for travel teams and their feeder club CYA is a bottom feeder rec league. SYA is decent and should have never merged with CYA to form this abomination.

I don't think there are really any rec parents posting in here and why would they know or care about valor. seems to be all travel parents and the valor marketin guy. are you the same person who posted over and over again about having the cops called on you at a rec game? sound like the same person.

....and the valor marketing guy.....lol

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Anonymous wrote:All clubs send tryout notices to their rec programs. Call it whatever you want, but of course they do. CYA and SYA are Valor's rec programs. They send their coaches in to assist with the rec programs, and they conduct coaching education for the rec coaches who want to go to them. I see nothing wrong with this.

My kids played SYA rec for several years before they played Valor and we never met or saw a Valor coach "assisting" with their teams. only volunteers. Didn't see any Valor people at all until tryouts. My sister coached a season and the coaching class was run by the head SYA soccer guy, not Valor. (the all star coach was a teenager and he was paid.)

I think you just don't know how to identify these folks. RO who runs SYA also works for valor. He isn't in a valor uniform but typically just a black on black adidas outfit. The all star coaches are valor kids, and the people running the tournaments are all SYA/valor mix. Rec league coaches are not affiliated with valor but the refereeing program is.

Soccer academy which is heavily promoted by valor and SYA (not sure about CYA) has an affiliation to one of the VALOR coaches.

BTW I would not recommend any Soccer academy program. Take your money to SYC if you are in need of a soccer summer camp.

This makes perfect sense, let's drive 45 mins to Springfield for summer camp and an orange shirt.

This is the Rec league mentality. You are in the correct club.

Valor is nothing more than a glorified CYA/SYA rec plus league.

It's all glorified rec/ncsl around here. Rec>NCSL>RL is there really much of a difference besides price? Maybe a few pockets of success but generally speaking the quality of soccer isn't changing significantly.

Have you seen the rec players after U10 and above? It's filled with filled with kids that are just doing it because their parents want them to have some activity or for socialization. You'll NEVER hear about some rec kid at u15 tearing it up and playing at top level. Rec is rec and that is fine. However, they are not in the same league as NCSL or ECNL RL. You are delusional. I keep hearing you rec guys compare rec players to 3rd or 4th team players. How about trying to compare them to 1st or 2nd team? Any game would likely end 100-0. The end! And at least a kid on the 3rd or 4th team will have a shot to improve and try to make a higher team if they put the work in and stay in the system. Rec players will be nothing more than kids passing time and maybe having a few laughs with friends... and there is nothing wrong with that. But don't think for a second they are in the same category as kids playing at a higher level in travel.

Having said that Valor is the bottom of the barrel for travel teams and their feeder club CYA is a bottom feeder rec league. SYA is decent and should have never merged with CYA to form this abomination.

So if your kid on a 3rd team or a 4th team?

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Anonymous wrote:All clubs send tryout notices to their rec programs. Call it whatever you want, but of course they do. CYA and SYA are Valor's rec programs. They send their coaches in to assist with the rec programs, and they conduct coaching education for the rec coaches who want to go to them. I see nothing wrong with this.

My kids played SYA rec for several years before they played Valor and we never met or saw a Valor coach "assisting" with their teams. only volunteers. Didn't see any Valor people at all until tryouts. My sister coached a season and the coaching class was run by the head SYA soccer guy, not Valor. (the all star coach was a teenager and he was paid.)

I think you just don't know how to identify these folks. RO who runs SYA also works for valor. He isn't in a valor uniform but typically just a black on black adidas outfit. The all star coaches are valor kids, and the people running the tournaments are all SYA/valor mix. Rec league coaches are not affiliated with valor but the refereeing program is.

Soccer academy which is heavily promoted by valor and SYA (not sure about CYA) has an affiliation to one of the VALOR coaches.

BTW I would not recommend any Soccer academy program. Take your money to SYC if you are in need of a soccer summer camp.

This makes perfect sense, let's drive 45 mins to Springfield for summer camp and an orange shirt.

This is the Rec league mentality. You are in the correct club.

Valor is nothing more than a glorified CYA/SYA rec plus league.

It's all glorified rec/ncsl around here. Rec>NCSL>RL is there really much of a difference besides price? Maybe a few pockets of success but generally speaking the quality of soccer isn't changing significantly.

Have you seen the rec players after U10 and above? It's filled with filled with kids that are just doing it because their parents want them to have some activity or for socialization. You'll NEVER hear about some rec kid at u15 tearing it up and playing at top level. Rec is rec and that is fine. However, they are not in the same league as NCSL or ECNL RL. You are delusional. I keep hearing you rec guys compare rec players to 3rd or 4th team players. How about trying to compare them to 1st or 2nd team? Any game would likely end 100-0. The end! And at least a kid on the 3rd or 4th team will have a shot to improve and try to make a higher team if they put the work in and stay in the system. Rec players will be nothing more than kids passing time and maybe having a few laughs with friends... and there is nothing wrong with that. But don't think for a second they are in the same category as kids playing at a higher level in travel.

Having said that Valor is the bottom of the barrel for travel teams and their feeder club CYA is a bottom feeder rec league. SYA is decent and should have never merged with CYA to form this abomination.

So if your kid on a 3rd team or a 4th team?

Actually is kid on the 1st team and could never have gotten there by staying on rec. But thank you for asking.

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Anonymous wrote:All clubs send tryout notices to their rec programs. Call it whatever you want, but of course they do. CYA and SYA are Valor's rec programs. They send their coaches in to assist with the rec programs, and they conduct coaching education for the rec coaches who want to go to them. I see nothing wrong with this.

My kids played SYA rec for several years before they played Valor and we never met or saw a Valor coach "assisting" with their teams. only volunteers. Didn't see any Valor people at all until tryouts. My sister coached a season and the coaching class was run by the head SYA soccer guy, not Valor. (the all star coach was a teenager and he was paid.)

I think you just don't know how to identify these folks. RO who runs SYA also works for valor. He isn't in a valor uniform but typically just a black on black adidas outfit. The all star coaches are valor kids, and the people running the tournaments are all SYA/valor mix. Rec league coaches are not affiliated with valor but the refereeing program is.

Soccer academy which is heavily promoted by valor and SYA (not sure about CYA) has an affiliation to one of the VALOR coaches.

BTW I would not recommend any Soccer academy program. Take your money to SYC if you are in need of a soccer summer camp.

This makes perfect sense, let's drive 45 mins to Springfield for summer camp and an orange shirt.

This is the Rec league mentality. You are in the correct club.

Valor is nothing more than a glorified CYA/SYA rec plus league.

It's all glorified rec/ncsl around here. Rec>NCSL>RL is there really much of a difference besides price? Maybe a few pockets of success but generally speaking the quality of soccer isn't changing significantly.

Have you seen the rec players after U10 and above? It's filled with filled with kids that are just doing it because their parents want them to have some activity or for socialization. You'll NEVER hear about some rec kid at u15 tearing it up and playing at top level. Rec is rec and that is fine. However, they are not in the same league as NCSL or ECNL RL. You are delusional. I keep hearing you rec guys compare rec players to 3rd or 4th team players. How about trying to compare them to 1st or 2nd team? Any game would likely end 100-0. The end! And at least a kid on the 3rd or 4th team will have a shot to improve and try to make a higher team if they put the work in and stay in the system. Rec players will be nothing more than kids passing time and maybe having a few laughs with friends... and there is nothing wrong with that. But don't think for a second they are in the same category as kids playing at a higher level in travel.

Having said that Valor is the bottom of the barrel for travel teams and their feeder club CYA is a bottom feeder rec league. SYA is decent and should have never merged with CYA to form this abomination.

I don't think there are really any rec parents posting in here and why would they know or care about valor. seems to be all travel parents and the valor marketin guy. are you the same person who posted over and over again about having the cops called on you at a rec game? sound like the same person.

What exactly are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:All clubs send tryout notices to their rec programs. Call it whatever you want, but of course they do. CYA and SYA are Valor's rec programs. They send their coaches in to assist with the rec programs, and they conduct coaching education for the rec coaches who want to go to them. I see nothing wrong with this.

My kids played SYA rec for several years before they played Valor and we never met or saw a Valor coach "assisting" with their teams. only volunteers. Didn't see any Valor people at all until tryouts. My sister coached a season and the coaching class was run by the head SYA soccer guy, not Valor. (the all star coach was a teenager and he was paid.)

I think you just don't know how to identify these folks. RO who runs SYA also works for valor. He isn't in a valor uniform but typically just a black on black adidas outfit. The all star coaches are valor kids, and the people running the tournaments are all SYA/valor mix. Rec league coaches are not affiliated with valor but the refereeing program is.

Soccer academy which is heavily promoted by valor and SYA (not sure about CYA) has an affiliation to one of the VALOR coaches.

BTW I would not recommend any Soccer academy program. Take your money to SYC if you are in need of a soccer summer camp.

This makes perfect sense, let's drive 45 mins to Springfield for summer camp and an orange shirt.

This is the Rec league mentality. You are in the correct club.

Valor is nothing more than a glorified CYA/SYA rec plus league.

It's all glorified rec/ncsl around here. Rec>NCSL>RL is there really much of a difference besides price? Maybe a few pockets of success but generally speaking the quality of soccer isn't changing significantly.

Disagree. I have seen a huge difference between the quality in the highest divisions of NCSL vs. the lowest divisions. My kids haven't played rec in a long time but I would be surprised if those bottom NCSL divisions weren't actually worse than most rec teams (who presumably have at least some players with athletic skill)

Spot on. The top level NCSL players are in a different category than rec or lowest level travel players. Can’t lump them together and try to sound like you know what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Not Valor marketing, my kid plays at Great Falls. Valor is not any farther for us and Great Falls is a mess. Most of their coaches are leaving, as current players will tell you.
Looks like Valor could use a marketing person though...

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Anonymous wrote:Not Valor marketing, my kid plays at Great Falls. Valor is not any farther for us and Great Falls is a mess. Most of their coaches are leaving, as current players will tell you.
Looks like Valor could use a marketing person though...

GFR younger ages look good/coaching looks consistent. Looks like a few coaches are even moving up with their team.

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Anonymous wrote:Not Valor marketing, my kid plays at Great Falls. Valor is not any farther for us and Great Falls is a mess. Most of their coaches are leaving, as current players will tell you.
Looks like Valor could use a marketing person though...

Valor is a trainwreck. if you are thinking about moving clubs go consider anyone else. Well maybe not st james.

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Anonymous wrote:Not Valor marketing, my kid plays at Great Falls. Valor is not any farther for us and Great Falls is a mess. Most of their coaches are leaving, as current players will tell you.
Looks like Valor could use a marketing person though...

Valor is a trainwreck. if you are thinking about moving clubs go consider anyone else. Well maybe not st james.

hardly a trainwreck.. just depends on what age group you are in.. like most clubs.. even certain ECNL teams have issues….

[Anonymous]

Stevie Alabi is a really great coach. Disciplined and very skilled. It’s a big loss to GFR. Current GFR parent.