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Anonymous wrote:A cold war has ended?

The Cambridges and Sussexs came in the same car. OMG.



Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for posting that. Things do change.


What’s most noteworthy to me in this video is the coolness between William and Kate. There does not appear to be any love between them.


There is love. It’s just tradition with his position.


Tradition is showing up with your spouse. William went to the Queen’s death bed alone, watched the proclamation of Charles as King alone and attended the accession council alone. Now they show up looking more like distanct cousins, and not the married kind, than attentive partners.

It is what it is.


There is no such tradition, however people with high EQ don’t show up at the death bed of a great grandmother in law. They allow a handful of the closest family to be there.

Sophie was there though.


Question how much time do you think Kate and the kids spent with the queen? Actually with the queen and interacting with her? She did not do it with Charles.
kate has known queen for more than two decades.


Since she was a teen fresher at St Andrew’s.


She had a crush on William since she was 9 and a young William turned her head when his team played a hockey match at her school.


And?? I’m their age and I had a crush on William as did most other girls that had eyes. He was darling!


Serious? He’s been homely ever since he was a preteen. Young 20s military Harry, however, was hot as hell.


Not at all. He was an extremely handsome teen and young man. Not so much now in middle age....


I actually quite like his look now. He has a very definite "look" of a British aristocrat. You may like it or not, but it's a look He looks distinguished.

I think Harry always had a slightly disheveled look about him.


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That bald pate with the fringe is unattractive. Period.

Harry’s “disheveled” look means “not trying too hard,” unlike that hilariously overquaffed, hands-in-pockets, Jordache-ad-looking photo being posted here to assert that William was attractive.


Yeah, I think people are giving him bonus points because he’s a going to be king. Maybe young Prince William really is some people’s thing just based on looks, but I don’t think he would stand out in a crowd for most.

I do think Harry is the more attractive of the two but I don’t know that he would stand out in a crowd either.


Also Harry is a Beta which is not appealing to some.


I dunno. I think that what looks like beta on TV doesn’t always translate to real life. Like Tom Holland. He looks way stronger and has much more swagger when he is in a crowd of normal people. But since most of us are, indeed, looking at Harry on a screen it doesn’t make a difference.


DP. I find him effeminate. It’s not even his physique per se but his mannerisms and energy.



LOL That's a stretch.



Newsflash, these are all choreographed by the Palace machine. Harry was surrounded by bodyguards and was playing video games while in Afghanistan. They were building up his image and a role for him, the way they do for all royals. His behavior since being cut off from the Palace Machine is closer to who he is, still heavily polished by his PR, but closer to his true personality. The man is suing the country to provide security, surrounded by bodyguards he is still afraid to travel let alone fight in a war zone.


+1 it’s laughable that so many of the women here really think that a Prince of England saw actual combat or did anything even remotely dangerous in Afghanistan lol. All that provide is the the palace PR is realllly good at what they do.


Well then you definitely can’t say that William is alpha either.


Who said he was? Calling Harry a beta isn't a statement about William.


If you are an heir to the crown, you are treated and trained as alpha.


That doesn't really describe Charles III. Wasn't that the bone of contention between him and his father?
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The Cambridges and Sussexs came in the same car. OMG.



Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for posting that. Things do change.


What’s most noteworthy to me in this video is the coolness between William and Kate. There does not appear to be any love between them.


There is love. It’s just tradition with his position.


Tradition is showing up with your spouse. William went to the Queen’s death bed alone, watched the proclamation of Charles as King alone and attended the accession council alone. Now they show up looking more like distanct cousins, and not the married kind, than attentive partners.

It is what it is.


There is no such tradition, however people with high EQ don’t show up at the death bed of a great grandmother in law. They allow a handful of the closest family to be there.

Sophie was there though.


Question how much time do you think Kate and the kids spent with the queen? Actually with the queen and interacting with her? She did not do it with Charles.
kate has known queen for more than two decades.


Since she was a teen fresher at St Andrew’s.


She had a crush on William since she was 9 and a young William turned her head when his team played a hockey match at her school.


And?? I’m their age and I had a crush on William as did most other girls that had eyes. He was darling!


Serious? He’s been homely ever since he was a preteen. Young 20s military Harry, however, was hot as hell.


Not at all. He was an extremely handsome teen and young man. Not so much now in middle age....


I actually quite like his look now. He has a very definite "look" of a British aristocrat. You may like it or not, but it's a look He looks distinguished.

I think Harry always had a slightly disheveled look about him.


+1


That bald pate with the fringe is unattractive. Period.

Harry’s “disheveled” look means “not trying too hard,” unlike that hilariously overquaffed, hands-in-pockets, Jordache-ad-looking photo being posted here to assert that William was attractive.


Yeah, I think people are giving him bonus points because he’s a going to be king. Maybe young Prince William really is some people’s thing just based on looks, but I don’t think he would stand out in a crowd for most.

I do think Harry is the more attractive of the two but I don’t know that he would stand out in a crowd either.


Also Harry is a Beta which is not appealing to some.


I dunno. I think that what looks like beta on TV doesn’t always translate to real life. Like Tom Holland. He looks way stronger and has much more swagger when he is in a crowd of normal people. But since most of us are, indeed, looking at Harry on a screen it doesn’t make a difference.


DP. I find him effeminate. It’s not even his physique per se but his mannerisms and energy.



LOL That's a stretch.



Newsflash, these are all choreographed by the Palace machine. Harry was surrounded by bodyguards and was playing video games while in Afghanistan. They were building up his image and a role for him, the way they do for all royals. His behavior since being cut off from the Palace Machine is closer to who he is, still heavily polished by his PR, but closer to his true personality. The man is suing the country to provide security, surrounded by bodyguards he is still afraid to travel let alone fight in a war zone.


+1 it’s laughable that so many of the women here really think that a Prince of England saw actual combat or did anything even remotely dangerous in Afghanistan lol. All that provide is the the palace PR is realllly good at what they do.


Well then you definitely can’t say that William is alpha either.


Who said he was? Calling Harry a beta isn't a statement about William.


If you are an heir to the crown, you are treated and trained as alpha.


SOmewhat hilarious, as people love reminding everyone that its just a toothless, figurehead ceremonial nothing job.
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Anonymous wrote:A cold war has ended?

The Cambridges and Sussexs came in the same car. OMG.



Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for posting that. Things do change.


What’s most noteworthy to me in this video is the coolness between William and Kate. There does not appear to be any love between them.


There is love. It’s just tradition with his position.


Tradition is showing up with your spouse. William went to the Queen’s death bed alone, watched the proclamation of Charles as King alone and attended the accession council alone. Now they show up looking more like distanct cousins, and not the married kind, than attentive partners.

It is what it is.


There is no such tradition, however people with high EQ don’t show up at the death bed of a great grandmother in law. They allow a handful of the closest family to be there.

Sophie was there though.


Question how much time do you think Kate and the kids spent with the queen? Actually with the queen and interacting with her? She did not do it with Charles.
kate has known queen for more than two decades.


Since she was a teen fresher at St Andrew’s.


She had a crush on William since she was 9 and a young William turned her head when his team played a hockey match at her school.


And?? I’m their age and I had a crush on William as did most other girls that had eyes. He was darling!


Serious? He’s been homely ever since he was a preteen. Young 20s military Harry, however, was hot as hell.


Not at all. He was an extremely handsome teen and young man. Not so much now in middle age....


I actually quite like his look now. He has a very definite "look" of a British aristocrat. You may like it or not, but it's a look He looks distinguished.

I think Harry always had a slightly disheveled look about him.


+1


That bald pate with the fringe is unattractive. Period.

Harry’s “disheveled” look means “not trying too hard,” unlike that hilariously overquaffed, hands-in-pockets, Jordache-ad-looking photo being posted here to assert that William was attractive.


Yeah, I think people are giving him bonus points because he’s a going to be king. Maybe young Prince William really is some people’s thing just based on looks, but I don’t think he would stand out in a crowd for most.

I do think Harry is the more attractive of the two but I don’t know that he would stand out in a crowd either.


Also Harry is a Beta which is not appealing to some.


I dunno. I think that what looks like beta on TV doesn’t always translate to real life. Like Tom Holland. He looks way stronger and has much more swagger when he is in a crowd of normal people. But since most of us are, indeed, looking at Harry on a screen it doesn’t make a difference.


DP. I find him effeminate. It’s not even his physique per se but his mannerisms and energy.



LOL That's a stretch.



Newsflash, these are all choreographed by the Palace machine. Harry was surrounded by bodyguards and was playing video games while in Afghanistan. They were building up his image and a role for him, the way they do for all royals. His behavior since being cut off from the Palace Machine is closer to who he is, still heavily polished by his PR, but closer to his true personality. The man is suing the country to provide security, surrounded by bodyguards he is still afraid to travel let alone fight in a war zone.


+1 it’s laughable that so many of the women here really think that a Prince of England saw actual combat or did anything even remotely dangerous in Afghanistan lol. All that provide is the the palace PR is realllly good at what they do.


Well then you definitely can’t say that William is alpha either.


Lol the biggest reason Harry is beta is because he's dumb. An Atlantic writer described him as coming off like a chicken in the Oprah interview and I thought that was spot on.


I think calling Harry dumb is unfair and unjustified. Are you saying that people who do not go to college, dumb? There are plenty of plumbers, electricians, carpenters etc that are very smart just in different ways. Harry could have had a learning disability which in the 80's might not have been picked up. So I wish people would stop saying this.


I didn't mention that he didn't go to college. I am basing this on the things he says during interviews, the fact that he decided to dump his family for being racist and not supportive but then keeps running back at any opportunity, and his past extremely poor judgment (Nazi costume, calling a cadet a "raghead" on video).


I know you didn't. But, you can see why I thought you meant dumb because he didn't go to college. I agree with you on his mistakes ( leaving the family etc but, I think "smart" people can make mistakes and his choices have more to do with losing his mother so young and being raised in that environment.


np. Some people have below average intelligence, that’s not an insult, it’s a basic fact of life. Even Harry’s mother knew he lacked in this department. He was very lucky to be born in the RF.


He doesn't seem to be "low IQ" at all. He's well spoken and what he says sounds thought out and intelligent. I didn't know he skipped college. But that's certainly not the only measure of intelligence.

In any event, he is trying to make a positive difference in the world. That means a huge amount IMO.


Thought out and intelligent? Like when he said his father and brother are "trapped" by royal life when they obviously glory in it? The man's an idiot, and as PP said, is lucky to have been born in British aristocracy. Funny he said he was trapped as well but his wife also said that their original plan was to remain working royals but be able to get jobs.


My read of the situation is that Harry is a petulant, explosive manchild. While he was at the BRF, the palace machinery was able to successfully package him as a cool-Harry, man of the people, jolly old lad type figure, but once this was lost, it became obvious how unattractive he is and how much he enjoys being a victim. I am a bit sick of listening to him drone on about his dead mother. It's time to move on from this.


Wow. I hope someone tells your DC that about you one day.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s confirmed that the corgis are going to go live with Andrew and Sarah. I was surprised that they still live together or am I miss reading the living together part?


Both are broke and have limited options at this point. And they do seem to get along well enough.
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Anonymous wrote:A cold war has ended?

The Cambridges and Sussexs came in the same car. OMG.



Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for posting that. Things do change.


What’s most noteworthy to me in this video is the coolness between William and Kate. There does not appear to be any love between them.


There is love. It’s just tradition with his position.


Tradition is showing up with your spouse. William went to the Queen’s death bed alone, watched the proclamation of Charles as King alone and attended the accession council alone. Now they show up looking more like distanct cousins, and not the married kind, than attentive partners.

It is what it is.


There is no such tradition, however people with high EQ don’t show up at the death bed of a great grandmother in law. They allow a handful of the closest family to be there.

Sophie was there though.


Question how much time do you think Kate and the kids spent with the queen? Actually with the queen and interacting with her? She did not do it with Charles.
kate has known queen for more than two decades.


Since she was a teen fresher at St Andrew’s.


She had a crush on William since she was 9 and a young William turned her head when his team played a hockey match at her school.


And?? I’m their age and I had a crush on William as did most other girls that had eyes. He was darling!


Serious? He’s been homely ever since he was a preteen. Young 20s military Harry, however, was hot as hell.


Not at all. He was an extremely handsome teen and young man. Not so much now in middle age....


I actually quite like his look now. He has a very definite "look" of a British aristocrat. You may like it or not, but it's a look He looks distinguished.

I think Harry always had a slightly disheveled look about him.


+1


That bald pate with the fringe is unattractive. Period.

Harry’s “disheveled” look means “not trying too hard,” unlike that hilariously overquaffed, hands-in-pockets, Jordache-ad-looking photo being posted here to assert that William was attractive.


Yeah, I think people are giving him bonus points because he’s a going to be king. Maybe young Prince William really is some people’s thing just based on looks, but I don’t think he would stand out in a crowd for most.

I do think Harry is the more attractive of the two but I don’t know that he would stand out in a crowd either.


Also Harry is a Beta which is not appealing to some.


I dunno. I think that what looks like beta on TV doesn’t always translate to real life. Like Tom Holland. He looks way stronger and has much more swagger when he is in a crowd of normal people. But since most of us are, indeed, looking at Harry on a screen it doesn’t make a difference.


DP. I find him effeminate. It’s not even his physique per se but his mannerisms and energy.



LOL That's a stretch.



Newsflash, these are all choreographed by the Palace machine. Harry was surrounded by bodyguards and was playing video games while in Afghanistan. They were building up his image and a role for him, the way they do for all royals. His behavior since being cut off from the Palace Machine is closer to who he is, still heavily polished by his PR, but closer to his true personality. The man is suing the country to provide security, surrounded by bodyguards he is still afraid to travel let alone fight in a war zone.


+1 it’s laughable that so many of the women here really think that a Prince of England saw actual combat or did anything even remotely dangerous in Afghanistan lol. All that provide is the the palace PR is realllly good at what they do.


Well then you definitely can’t say that William is alpha either.


Who said he was? Calling Harry a beta isn't a statement about William.


If you are an heir to the crown, you are treated and trained as alpha.


Are you really saying the tampon wannabe is alpha????
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Anonymous wrote:A cold war has ended?

The Cambridges and Sussexs came in the same car. OMG.



Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for posting that. Things do change.


What’s most noteworthy to me in this video is the coolness between William and Kate. There does not appear to be any love between them.


There is love. It’s just tradition with his position.


Tradition is showing up with your spouse. William went to the Queen’s death bed alone, watched the proclamation of Charles as King alone and attended the accession council alone. Now they show up looking more like distanct cousins, and not the married kind, than attentive partners.

It is what it is.


There is no such tradition, however people with high EQ don’t show up at the death bed of a great grandmother in law. They allow a handful of the closest family to be there.

Sophie was there though.


Question how much time do you think Kate and the kids spent with the queen? Actually with the queen and interacting with her? She did not do it with Charles.
kate has known queen for more than two decades.


Since she was a teen fresher at St Andrew’s.


She had a crush on William since she was 9 and a young William turned her head when his team played a hockey match at her school.


And?? I’m their age and I had a crush on William as did most other girls that had eyes. He was darling!


Serious? He’s been homely ever since he was a preteen. Young 20s military Harry, however, was hot as hell.


Not at all. He was an extremely handsome teen and young man. Not so much now in middle age....


I actually quite like his look now. He has a very definite "look" of a British aristocrat. You may like it or not, but it's a look He looks distinguished.

I think Harry always had a slightly disheveled look about him.


+1


That bald pate with the fringe is unattractive. Period.

Harry’s “disheveled” look means “not trying too hard,” unlike that hilariously overquaffed, hands-in-pockets, Jordache-ad-looking photo being posted here to assert that William was attractive.


Yeah, I think people are giving him bonus points because he’s a going to be king. Maybe young Prince William really is some people’s thing just based on looks, but I don’t think he would stand out in a crowd for most.

I do think Harry is the more attractive of the two but I don’t know that he would stand out in a crowd either.


Also Harry is a Beta which is not appealing to some.


I dunno. I think that what looks like beta on TV doesn’t always translate to real life. Like Tom Holland. He looks way stronger and has much more swagger when he is in a crowd of normal people. But since most of us are, indeed, looking at Harry on a screen it doesn’t make a difference.


DP. I find him effeminate. It’s not even his physique per se but his mannerisms and energy.



LOL That's a stretch.



Newsflash, these are all choreographed by the Palace machine. Harry was surrounded by bodyguards and was playing video games while in Afghanistan. They were building up his image and a role for him, the way they do for all royals. His behavior since being cut off from the Palace Machine is closer to who he is, still heavily polished by his PR, but closer to his true personality. The man is suing the country to provide security, surrounded by bodyguards he is still afraid to travel let alone fight in a war zone.


+1 it’s laughable that so many of the women here really think that a Prince of England saw actual combat or did anything even remotely dangerous in Afghanistan lol. All that provide is the the palace PR is realllly good at what they do.


Well then you definitely can’t say that William is alpha either.


Who said he was? Calling Harry a beta isn't a statement about William.


If you are an heir to the crown, you are treated and trained as alpha.


Are you really saying the tampon wannabe is alpha????


that conversation was supposed to be private. I feel badly for him because it was his version of "sexy talk" and now the whole world remembers.
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Anonymous wrote:A cold war has ended?

The Cambridges and Sussexs came in the same car. OMG.



Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for posting that. Things do change.


What’s most noteworthy to me in this video is the coolness between William and Kate. There does not appear to be any love between them.


There is love. It’s just tradition with his position.


Tradition is showing up with your spouse. William went to the Queen’s death bed alone, watched the proclamation of Charles as King alone and attended the accession council alone. Now they show up looking more like distanct cousins, and not the married kind, than attentive partners.

It is what it is.


There is no such tradition, however people with high EQ don’t show up at the death bed of a great grandmother in law. They allow a handful of the closest family to be there.

Sophie was there though.


Question how much time do you think Kate and the kids spent with the queen? Actually with the queen and interacting with her? She did not do it with Charles.
kate has known queen for more than two decades.


Since she was a teen fresher at St Andrew’s.


She had a crush on William since she was 9 and a young William turned her head when his team played a hockey match at her school.


And?? I’m their age and I had a crush on William as did most other girls that had eyes. He was darling!


Serious? He’s been homely ever since he was a preteen. Young 20s military Harry, however, was hot as hell.


Not at all. He was an extremely handsome teen and young man. Not so much now in middle age....


I actually quite like his look now. He has a very definite "look" of a British aristocrat. You may like it or not, but it's a look He looks distinguished.

I think Harry always had a slightly disheveled look about him.


+1


That bald pate with the fringe is unattractive. Period.

Harry’s “disheveled” look means “not trying too hard,” unlike that hilariously overquaffed, hands-in-pockets, Jordache-ad-looking photo being posted here to assert that William was attractive.


Yeah, I think people are giving him bonus points because he’s a going to be king. Maybe young Prince William really is some people’s thing just based on looks, but I don’t think he would stand out in a crowd for most.

I do think Harry is the more attractive of the two but I don’t know that he would stand out in a crowd either.


Also Harry is a Beta which is not appealing to some.


I dunno. I think that what looks like beta on TV doesn’t always translate to real life. Like Tom Holland. He looks way stronger and has much more swagger when he is in a crowd of normal people. But since most of us are, indeed, looking at Harry on a screen it doesn’t make a difference.


DP. I find him effeminate. It’s not even his physique per se but his mannerisms and energy.



LOL That's a stretch.



Newsflash, these are all choreographed by the Palace machine. Harry was surrounded by bodyguards and was playing video games while in Afghanistan. They were building up his image and a role for him, the way they do for all royals. His behavior since being cut off from the Palace Machine is closer to who he is, still heavily polished by his PR, but closer to his true personality. The man is suing the country to provide security, surrounded by bodyguards he is still afraid to travel let alone fight in a war zone.


+1 it’s laughable that so many of the women here really think that a Prince of England saw actual combat or did anything even remotely dangerous in Afghanistan lol. All that provide is the the palace PR is realllly good at what they do.


Well then you definitely can’t say that William is alpha either.


Lol the biggest reason Harry is beta is because he's dumb. An Atlantic writer described him as coming off like a chicken in the Oprah interview and I thought that was spot on.


I think calling Harry dumb is unfair and unjustified. Are you saying that people who do not go to college, dumb? There are plenty of plumbers, electricians, carpenters etc that are very smart just in different ways. Harry could have had a learning disability which in the 80's might not have been picked up. So I wish people would stop saying this.



It is not that Harry did not go to college but he could not pass the exams that would allow him to enter a college or university. With help from multiple tutors and a heavy dose of gentlemanly cheating, he got out of Eton. He did better at Sandringham where academic ability is not necessary.

He would probably have made a good field officer if he had stayed in the Army. He did not like the sanitized military life he had in Afghanistan and left the military. He needed Meghan or another tough woman to set him right. I wonder if the Queen gave him that advice.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s confirmed that the corgis are going to go live with Andrew and Sarah. I was surprised that they still live together or am I miss reading the living together part?


Both are broke and have limited options at this point. And they do seem to get along well enough.


They have lived together for years and have a ski chalet in Switzerland.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s confirmed that the corgis are going to go live with Andrew and Sarah. I was surprised that they still live together or am I miss reading the living together part?


Both are broke and have limited options at this point. And they do seem to get along well enough.


They have lived together for years and have a ski chalet in Switzerland.


They divorced in 1996 and she didn't move back in with Andrew until 2006 after several failed attempts to earn income.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s confirmed that the corgis are going to go live with Andrew and Sarah. I was surprised that they still live together or am I miss reading the living together part?


Both are broke and have limited options at this point. And they do seem to get along well enough.


Misery does love company, so...
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Anonymous wrote:It’s confirmed that the corgis are going to go live with Andrew and Sarah. I was surprised that they still live together or am I miss reading the living together part?


Both are broke and have limited options at this point. And they do seem to get along well enough.


They have lived together for years and have a ski chalet in Switzerland.


They divorced in 1996 and she didn't move back in with Andrew until 2006 after several failed attempts to earn income.


They still live together and dine together everyday. Neither has money so they are sticking together for their daughters and the grandkids, all of whom live in Windsor.

Also, both Andrew and Fergie have "other people" who they are relationships with but the press does not discuss out of deference for The Firm.
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Anonymous wrote:A cold war has ended?

The Cambridges and Sussexs came in the same car. OMG.



Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for posting that. Things do change.


What’s most noteworthy to me in this video is the coolness between William and Kate. There does not appear to be any love between them.


There is love. It’s just tradition with his position.


Tradition is showing up with your spouse. William went to the Queen’s death bed alone, watched the proclamation of Charles as King alone and attended the accession council alone. Now they show up looking more like distanct cousins, and not the married kind, than attentive partners.

It is what it is.


There is no such tradition, however people with high EQ don’t show up at the death bed of a great grandmother in law. They allow a handful of the closest family to be there.

Sophie was there though.


Question how much time do you think Kate and the kids spent with the queen? Actually with the queen and interacting with her? She did not do it with Charles.
kate has known queen for more than two decades.


Since she was a teen fresher at St Andrew’s.


She had a crush on William since she was 9 and a young William turned her head when his team played a hockey match at her school.


And?? I’m their age and I had a crush on William as did most other girls that had eyes. He was darling!


Serious? He’s been homely ever since he was a preteen. Young 20s military Harry, however, was hot as hell.


Not at all. He was an extremely handsome teen and young man. Not so much now in middle age....


I actually quite like his look now. He has a very definite "look" of a British aristocrat. You may like it or not, but it's a look He looks distinguished.

I think Harry always had a slightly disheveled look about him.


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That bald pate with the fringe is unattractive. Period.

Harry’s “disheveled” look means “not trying too hard,” unlike that hilariously overquaffed, hands-in-pockets, Jordache-ad-looking photo being posted here to assert that William was attractive.


Yeah, I think people are giving him bonus points because he’s a going to be king. Maybe young Prince William really is some people’s thing just based on looks, but I don’t think he would stand out in a crowd for most.

I do think Harry is the more attractive of the two but I don’t know that he would stand out in a crowd either.


Also Harry is a Beta which is not appealing to some.


I dunno. I think that what looks like beta on TV doesn’t always translate to real life. Like Tom Holland. He looks way stronger and has much more swagger when he is in a crowd of normal people. But since most of us are, indeed, looking at Harry on a screen it doesn’t make a difference.


DP. I find him effeminate. It’s not even his physique per se but his mannerisms and energy.



LOL That's a stretch.



Newsflash, these are all choreographed by the Palace machine. Harry was surrounded by bodyguards and was playing video games while in Afghanistan. They were building up his image and a role for him, the way they do for all royals. His behavior since being cut off from the Palace Machine is closer to who he is, still heavily polished by his PR, but closer to his true personality. The man is suing the country to provide security, surrounded by bodyguards he is still afraid to travel let alone fight in a war zone.


+1 it’s laughable that so many of the women here really think that a Prince of England saw actual combat or did anything even remotely dangerous in Afghanistan lol. All that provide is the the palace PR is realllly good at what they do.


Well then you definitely can’t say that William is alpha either.


Lol the biggest reason Harry is beta is because he's dumb. An Atlantic writer described him as coming off like a chicken in the Oprah interview and I thought that was spot on.


I think calling Harry dumb is unfair and unjustified. Are you saying that people who do not go to college, dumb? There are plenty of plumbers, electricians, carpenters etc that are very smart just in different ways. Harry could have had a learning disability which in the 80's might not have been picked up. So I wish people would stop saying this.



It is not that Harry did not go to college but he could not pass the exams that would allow him to enter a college or university. With help from multiple tutors and a heavy dose of gentlemanly cheating, he got out of Eton. He did better at Sandringham where academic ability is not necessary.

He would probably have made a good field officer if he had stayed in the Army. He did not like the sanitized military life he had in Afghanistan and left the military. He needed Meghan or another tough woman to set him right. I wonder if the Queen gave him that advice.



You mean Sandhurst.
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Anonymous wrote:A cold war has ended?

The Cambridges and Sussexs came in the same car. OMG.



Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for posting that. Things do change.


What’s most noteworthy to me in this video is the coolness between William and Kate. There does not appear to be any love between them.


There is love. It’s just tradition with his position.


Tradition is showing up with your spouse. William went to the Queen’s death bed alone, watched the proclamation of Charles as King alone and attended the accession council alone. Now they show up looking more like distanct cousins, and not the married kind, than attentive partners.

It is what it is.


There is no such tradition, however people with high EQ don’t show up at the death bed of a great grandmother in law. They allow a handful of the closest family to be there.

Sophie was there though.


Question how much time do you think Kate and the kids spent with the queen? Actually with the queen and interacting with her? She did not do it with Charles.
kate has known queen for more than two decades.


Since she was a teen fresher at St Andrew’s.


She had a crush on William since she was 9 and a young William turned her head when his team played a hockey match at her school.


And?? I’m their age and I had a crush on William as did most other girls that had eyes. He was darling!


Serious? He’s been homely ever since he was a preteen. Young 20s military Harry, however, was hot as hell.


Not at all. He was an extremely handsome teen and young man. Not so much now in middle age....


I actually quite like his look now. He has a very definite "look" of a British aristocrat. You may like it or not, but it's a look He looks distinguished.

I think Harry always had a slightly disheveled look about him.


+1


That bald pate with the fringe is unattractive. Period.

Harry’s “disheveled” look means “not trying too hard,” unlike that hilariously overquaffed, hands-in-pockets, Jordache-ad-looking photo being posted here to assert that William was attractive.


Yeah, I think people are giving him bonus points because he’s a going to be king. Maybe young Prince William really is some people’s thing just based on looks, but I don’t think he would stand out in a crowd for most.

I do think Harry is the more attractive of the two but I don’t know that he would stand out in a crowd either.


Also Harry is a Beta which is not appealing to some.


I dunno. I think that what looks like beta on TV doesn’t always translate to real life. Like Tom Holland. He looks way stronger and has much more swagger when he is in a crowd of normal people. But since most of us are, indeed, looking at Harry on a screen it doesn’t make a difference.


DP. I find him effeminate. It’s not even his physique per se but his mannerisms and energy.



LOL That's a stretch.



Newsflash, these are all choreographed by the Palace machine. Harry was surrounded by bodyguards and was playing video games while in Afghanistan. They were building up his image and a role for him, the way they do for all royals. His behavior since being cut off from the Palace Machine is closer to who he is, still heavily polished by his PR, but closer to his true personality. The man is suing the country to provide security, surrounded by bodyguards he is still afraid to travel let alone fight in a war zone.


+1 it’s laughable that so many of the women here really think that a Prince of England saw actual combat or did anything even remotely dangerous in Afghanistan lol. All that provide is the the palace PR is realllly good at what they do.


Well then you definitely can’t say that William is alpha either.


Lol the biggest reason Harry is beta is because he's dumb. An Atlantic writer described him as coming off like a chicken in the Oprah interview and I thought that was spot on.


I think calling Harry dumb is unfair and unjustified. Are you saying that people who do not go to college, dumb? There are plenty of plumbers, electricians, carpenters etc that are very smart just in different ways. Harry could have had a learning disability which in the 80's might not have been picked up. So I wish people would stop saying this.



It is not that Harry did not go to college but he could not pass the exams that would allow him to enter a college or university. With help from multiple tutors and a heavy dose of gentlemanly cheating, he got out of Eton. He did better at Sandringham where academic ability is not necessary.

He would probably have made a good field officer if he had stayed in the Army. He did not like the sanitized military life he had in Afghanistan and left the military. He needed Meghan or another tough woman to set him right. I wonder if the Queen gave him that advice.



You mean Sandhurst.


Yes. Thinking of the Sandringham Summit.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s confirmed that the corgis are going to go live with Andrew and Sarah. I was surprised that they still live together or am I miss reading the living together part?


Both are broke and have limited options at this point. And they do seem to get along well enough.


They have lived together for years and have a ski chalet in Switzerland.


They divorced in 1996 and she didn't move back in with Andrew until 2006 after several failed attempts to earn income.


They still live together and dine together everyday. Neither has money so they are sticking together for their daughters and the grandkids, all of whom live in Windsor.

Also, both Andrew and Fergie have "other people" who they are relationships with but the press does not discuss out of deference for The Firm.


Really, this may be the most relatable or likeable thing about either one of them -- having a practical working friendly relationship with your ex.
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