Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile his gun death traumatized hundreds of college students, many of whom probably have PTSD.


Are you trying to blame Charlie Kirk for his assassination?


DP. Kirk, with what he said and did, put himself at heightened risk, and he knew it. That's why he hired a security team. I'm not blaming him for his assasination, but the guy preached about both the 2nd amendment, and personal reaponsibility. Tbh, he would probably agree, especially if it was someone else who got assasinated.


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What did he say that put him at heightened risk? I dislike the guy but I have not seen or heard anything he said that put him at heightened risk.

Kirk exercising his first amendment rights put him at an increased risk.


Yep. Imagine that. A troubled young man didn’t like what he said so he tried to silence him. Others celebrated. Sick people - all of them.
Truth is that his voice was made louder and stronger. Largest TPUSA gathering last night.


Why are they sick? They had valid reasons to take joy in his silencimg, just as he took joy in the silencing of others. Does that make him sick, too?


Good grief. ANYBODY who celebrates the assassination of an innocent American simply because they didn’t like what he said is sick. That seems to include you.


Framing him as innocent is where you go wrong. He vocally called for harm of many populations. Those people are allowed to be glad he's no longer able to do that. I'm sick and effing tired of marginalized people having to pretend like it's somehow a bad thing that there's one less Nazi in the world. I didn't pull the trigger, but I will not weep over the outcome. Call me what you will.


I thought it was very immoral how this man would intentionally go out of his way to poison the minds of our country’s youth.

He claimed he was a Christian yet his views and the manner in which he spoke are not in accordance with the Scriptures.
He gave Christianity a very bad rep and his influence on our nation’s youth was very disturbing at best.

He spoke on Black issues like he actually walked even an hour in a Black man’s shoes, he called abortion “murder” yet absolved women of being murderers…..claimed it was the actual doctors who were baby killers!
Which made zero sense.

He claimed there was a victim mentality to racism and that transgender people wore costumes.
Yet denied being transphobic?


And millions of us believe he was a breath of fresh air for our youth. Most of what you believe about him is flat out false.

And the fact that so many young people have turned to Christ speaks to his positive influence.

He will be missed by tens of millions. Murdered because the killer didn’t like what he said. Horrific.


I don’t think anyone on here can say that this guy deserved to be murdered.
In spite of how I negatively regarded Charlie Kirk - I certainly do not think he deserved to be gunned down in such a brutal manner.
This is America >>> Kirk had every right to say what he believed to be truth, w/out being horrifically murdered in cold blood for doing so.
Political violence is never an acceptable reaction to opposing someone else’s view, it is a coward’s way out and his murderer will surely receive swift justice as he atones.

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However Kirk was not a good Christian.
He did not authentically represent what a man of God is.
Jesus would never force a raped Female, child or adult endure nine months of pregnancy then childbirth.

He also would never single out a group of people and make statements about them collectively based on the color of their skin or where they originated from.

And to think that he would be okay with those that were financially fortunate withholding financial assistance (such as free lunch for poor school children) is definitely not in accordance with what the Scriptures teach us.

I am a Christian and the Word of God encourages us to help those less fortunate.
Since Kirk was so rich then why was it such an issue for him to part with his money in order to feed poor children a free school lunch?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't think his wife should have to grieve at all.


You are so right.
If I was his wife I certainly would not be grieving right now.
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Anonymous wrote:While I get that she wants to keep his organization up ➕ running, I think it is still much too soon for Erika to be making public appearances, especially ones where she looks so happy and relaxed.

She needs to properly grieve her husband while also spending every waking moment w/her children.

It is highly disrespectful of her to not still be in mourning for her husband.



Who in the hell are you to decide how people grieve? WTH?


Nobody is deciding how she should grieve (because she's not).


You brought up an excellent point PP.

You are 100 percent right -> that she is DEFINITELY not grieving her husband at this point.

She is now all smiles/positivity and looking ahead.

Not saying there is a mandated time frame to mourn one’s spouse…..but c’mon…..it is clearly obvious that her priorities are not properly aligned.



Good grief.

How long after losing a spouse is one supposed to refrain from smiling, pp? Give us the recommended timeframe.


I don't know. How long before selling merch? A few days?
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile his gun death traumatized hundreds of college students, many of whom probably have PTSD.


Are you trying to blame Charlie Kirk for his assassination?


DP. Kirk, with what he said and did, put himself at heightened risk, and he knew it. That's why he hired a security team. I'm not blaming him for his assasination, but the guy preached about both the 2nd amendment, and personal reaponsibility. Tbh, he would probably agree, especially if it was someone else who got assasinated.


DP.

What did he say that put him at heightened risk? I dislike the guy but I have not seen or heard anything he said that put him at heightened risk.

Kirk exercising his first amendment rights put him at an increased risk.


Yep. Imagine that. A troubled young man didn’t like what he said so he tried to silence him. Others celebrated. Sick people - all of them.
Truth is that his voice was made louder and stronger. Largest TPUSA gathering last night.


Why are they sick? They had valid reasons to take joy in his silencimg, just as he took joy in the silencing of others. Does that make him sick, too?


Good grief. ANYBODY who celebrates the assassination of an innocent American simply because they didn’t like what he said is sick. That seems to include you.


Framing him as innocent is where you go wrong. He vocally called for harm of many populations. Those people are allowed to be glad he's no longer able to do that. I'm sick and effing tired of marginalized people having to pretend like it's somehow a bad thing that there's one less Nazi in the world. I didn't pull the trigger, but I will not weep over the outcome. Call me what you will.


I thought it was very immoral how this man would intentionally go out of his way to poison the minds of our country’s youth.

He claimed he was a Christian yet his views and the manner in which he spoke are not in accordance with the Scriptures.
He gave Christianity a very bad rep and his influence on our nation’s youth was very disturbing at best.

He spoke on Black issues like he actually walked even an hour in a Black man’s shoes, he called abortion “murder” yet absolved women of being murderers…..claimed it was the actual doctors who were baby killers!
Which made zero sense.

He claimed there was a victim mentality to racism and that transgender people wore costumes.
Yet denied being transphobic?


And millions of us believe he was a breath of fresh air for our youth. Most of what you believe about him is flat out false.

And the fact that so many young people have turned to Christ speaks to his positive influence.

He will be missed by tens of millions. Murdered because the killer didn’t like what he said. Horrific.


There be another TikTok content creator to take his place soon enough. They will all be fine.
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Anonymous wrote:While I get that she wants to keep his organization up ➕ running, I think it is still much too soon for Erika to be making public appearances, especially ones where she looks so happy and relaxed.

She needs to properly grieve her husband while also spending every waking moment w/her children.

It is highly disrespectful of her to not still be in mourning for her husband.



Who in the hell are you to decide how people grieve? WTH?


Nobody is deciding how she should grieve (because she's not).


You brought up an excellent point PP.

You are 100 percent right -> that she is DEFINITELY not grieving her husband at this point.

She is now all smiles/positivity and looking ahead.

Not saying there is a mandated time frame to mourn one’s spouse…..but c’mon…..it is clearly obvious that her priorities are not properly aligned.



Good grief.

How long after losing a spouse is one supposed to refrain from smiling, pp? Give us the recommended timeframe.

I mean, in this case a few days? She couldn't even manage that.
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Pretty clear that their marriage was transactional and that her ambition is bigger than his. The irony is that her attitude and lack-of-grieving is the most uber-feminist, Girl Boss thing ever.

These people are all actors. They don’t believe any of this stuff.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While I get that she wants to keep his organization up ➕ running, I think it is still much too soon for Erika to be making public appearances, especially ones where she looks so happy and relaxed.

She needs to properly grieve her husband while also spending every waking moment w/her children.

It is highly disrespectful of her to not still be in mourning for her husband.



Who in the hell are you to decide how people grieve? WTH?


Nobody is deciding how she should grieve (because she's not).


You brought up an excellent point PP.

You are 100 percent right -> that she is DEFINITELY not grieving her husband at this point.

She is now all smiles/positivity and looking ahead.

Not saying there is a mandated time frame to mourn one’s spouse…..but c’mon…..it is clearly obvious that her priorities are not properly aligned.



Good grief.

How long after losing a spouse is one supposed to refrain from smiling, pp? Give us the recommended timeframe.


In the Victorian period, it was common to wait a full year before pyrotechnics and merchandise.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While I get that she wants to keep his organization up ➕ running, I think it is still much too soon for Erika to be making public appearances, especially ones where she looks so happy and relaxed.

She needs to properly grieve her husband while also spending every waking moment w/her children.

It is highly disrespectful of her to not still be in mourning for her husband.



Who in the hell are you to decide how people grieve? WTH?


Nobody is deciding how she should grieve (because she's not).


You brought up an excellent point PP.

You are 100 percent right -> that she is DEFINITELY not grieving her husband at this point.

She is now all smiles/positivity and looking ahead.

Not saying there is a mandated time frame to mourn one’s spouse…..but c’mon…..it is clearly obvious that her priorities are not properly aligned.



Good grief.

How long after losing a spouse is one supposed to refrain from smiling, pp? Give us the recommended timeframe.


In the Victorian period, it was common to wait a full year before pyrotechnics and merchandise.


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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that their marriage was transactional and that her ambition is bigger than his. The irony is that her attitude and lack-of-grieving is the most uber-feminist, Girl Boss thing ever.

These people are all actors. They don’t believe any of this stuff.


Do you think Kirk was closeted?
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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that their marriage was transactional and that her ambition is bigger than his. The irony is that her attitude and lack-of-grieving is the most uber-feminist, Girl Boss thing ever.

These people are all actors. They don’t believe any of this stuff.


By actors you mean state-sponsored intel assets?
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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that their marriage was transactional and that her ambition is bigger than his. The irony is that her attitude and lack-of-grieving is the most uber-feminist, Girl Boss thing ever.

These people are all actors. They don’t believe any of this stuff.


What the hell is wrong with you?
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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that their marriage was transactional and that her ambition is bigger than his. The irony is that her attitude and lack-of-grieving is the most uber-feminist, Girl Boss thing ever.

These people are all actors. They don’t believe any of this stuff.


What the hell is wrong with you?


Everyone hates the umpire who calls balls and strikes 🤷
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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that their marriage was transactional and that her ambition is bigger than his. The irony is that her attitude and lack-of-grieving is the most uber-feminist, Girl Boss thing ever.

These people are all actors. They don’t believe any of this stuff.


This brings up a very excellent point….

Erika IS acting like a true Feminist since her husband’s tragic passing.

While he was still with us, he stressed the importance of keeping families together, having a strong Father in the home, having a Mother home to care for the children, etc.
Sadly the first two cannot happen for obvious reasons however it seems that his widow is forgoing being w/her children now in order to take over the reins and run Charlie’s organization.
She was named CEO shortly after his death.

Her priority seemed to be on running the organization vs. staying w/her young children.
Her children, most especially her daughter (3YO) is suffering a very traumatic loss.
Erika’s focus should be on her daughter right now > the organization can wait.

But she is proceeding ahead w/full steam putting it before her children’s needs which I personally am finding deplorable.

I saw her podcast filmed a few wks after her husband’s death and she was smiling and even laughed w/the guys a few times.
Even when discussing a tender moment re: Charlie ➕ their daughter, she never teared up as would be expected.

They seemed like the perfect couple when he was here - I would expect her to at least wait a few mos before talking about future plans for his organization.
This time should be all about family now.
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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that their marriage was transactional and that her ambition is bigger than his. The irony is that her attitude and lack-of-grieving is the most uber-feminist, Girl Boss thing ever.

These people are all actors. They don’t believe any of this stuff.


What the hell is wrong with you?


“He who fights with monsters must take care, lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for too long into a conspiracy theory, the conspiracy theory gazes also into you …”

wait is that not how that quote goes? I don’t know. Something something, Sandy Hook, Paul Pelosi, Obama’s birth certificate.
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