US seizes oil tanker Venezuela

[Anonymous]

Apparently MAGA got its talking points on this.

But at the end of the day, MAGA cannot justify extrajudicial killings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We can seize foreigns vessels based on sanctions we establish?

Would those crowing that this seizure today is perfectly lawful also defend China’s right or Russia’s right or another country’s right to seize American vessels based on sanctions they establish?

They already have. Trump and the republicans believe in “zones of influence” as per New National Defense Strategy. This means the US can do anything(target and murder civilians, blow of boats in territorial or international waters, take any cargo it want without compensation, etc.) within its declared zone. China and Europe can do the same. Sorry Taiwan. Russia being a weak and poor country is not able to project power and therefore can not control a zone.

So yes this is the new world order. The free navigation of the seas and rule of law are no more. When the US invades and occupies Venezuela we will be able to extract oil without paying royalties to the locals. We also can take anything.

This administration is hell-bent on dismantling the command-and-control structures of narco-trafficking routes that funnel illicit drugs in to the U.S. and have contributed to the drug-death catastrophe that kills 100,000 Americans every year.

Just think of it as Washington DC regulations for your pet agendas that you know and love so much. In short, FAFO.

You are f’ed in the head. This administration has not taken any steps to dismantle “the command and control structures” of drug trafficking. In fact the price of illegal drugs in the US under the Trump administration have fallen by 25-35% in since January. The purity and availability of illegal drugs has increased.

What Trump and republicans have done is pardon the head of major cartels and any politicians who works with them. How do you explain that?

Trump and republicans like yourself do not give a sh#t about drug users. There is already an EO being drafted to allow the killing of drug users in the US.

DP. You absolute liar and clown. The draft bill
is to allow the killing of narco-terrorists. Do you even understand what that means? Stop spreading your fake claims and propaganda.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/19/us/politics/trump-drug-cartels-war-authorization.html

Then why is he giving handjobs to half of them while blowing up fishermen?

“Fishermen”???

DP... Some of the boats blown up were by various independent accounts indeed fishermen. As for the others - If those boats are full of 55 gallon drums of fentanyl as claimed, each barrel would contain enough to instantly overdose hundreds of thousands of people. Yet Whiskey Pete blows up a boat presumably sloshing gallons of that crap everywhere and the crew SURVIVES without an instant overdose? And there aren't hundreds of thousands of dead fish everywhere as a result of all that fentanyl going into the ocean? Sorry but the narrative is lacking credibility and I'm laughing right back at you. Engage your brain. And if it's all such a slam dunk then why are they showing us photos and video of boats from years ago and events having nothing to do with Venezuela and passing them off as "Venezuelan Drug Boat" photos and videos? And how is it that these boats are supposedly smuggling fentanyl to the US when they do not have the fuel capacity or range to make it to the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can seize foreigns vessels based on sanctions we establish?

Would those crowing that this seizure today is perfectly lawful also defend China’s right or Russia’s right or another country’s right to seize American vessels based on sanctions they establish?

They already have. Trump and the republicans believe in “zones of influence” as per New National Defense Strategy. This means the US can do anything(target and murder civilians, blow of boats in territorial or international waters, take any cargo it want without compensation, etc.) within its declared zone. China and Europe can do the same. Sorry Taiwan. Russia being a weak and poor country is not able to project power and therefore can not control a zone.

So yes this is the new world order. The free navigation of the seas and rule of law are no more. When the US invades and occupies Venezuela we will be able to extract oil without paying royalties to the locals. We also can take anything.

This administration is hell-bent on dismantling the command-and-control structures of narco-trafficking routes that funnel illicit drugs in to the U.S. and have contributed to the drug-death catastrophe that kills 100,000 Americans every year.

Just think of it as Washington DC regulations for your pet agendas that you know and love so much. In short, FAFO.

You are f’ed in the head. This administration has not taken any steps to dismantle “the command and control structures” of drug trafficking. In fact the price of illegal drugs in the US under the Trump administration have fallen by 25-35% in since January. The purity and availability of illegal drugs has increased.

What Trump and republicans have done is pardon the head of major cartels and any politicians who works with them. How do you explain that?

Trump and republicans like yourself do not give a sh#t about drug users. There is already an EO being drafted to allow the killing of drug users in the US.

DP. You absolute liar and clown. The draft bill
is to allow the killing of narco-terrorists. Do you even understand what that means? Stop spreading your fake claims and propaganda.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/19/us/politics/trump-drug-cartels-war-authorization.html

Anyone who does drugs is a “narco-terrorist”. I am sure you agree all drug users must be killed as they are narcoterrorists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a Dark-Fleet ship, not a Venezuelan tanker.

+1

Venezuela has ZERO lawful claim here. None.

That is false. Trump and republicans seizing a tanking is lawless.

This ship has been sanctioned since way back during the Biden administration. It’s only now that we’re actually doing something about it. Of course it’s legal to seize a sanctioned ship participating in illegal activities. But do continue displaying your ignorance.

Sleep Joe Biden? Surely you jest. So you are blaming this f up and lawless action on Biden now? At what point do you actually take responsibility for your actions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a Dark-Fleet ship, not a Venezuelan tanker.

+1

Venezuela has ZERO lawful claim here. None.

That is false. Trump and republicans seizing a tanking is lawless.

This ship has been sanctioned since way back during the Biden administration. It’s only now that we’re actually doing something about it. Of course it’s legal to seize a sanctioned ship participating in illegal activities. But do continue displaying your ignorance.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can seize foreigns vessels based on sanctions we establish?

Would those crowing that this seizure today is perfectly lawful also defend China’s right or Russia’s right or another country’s right to seize American vessels based on sanctions they establish?

They already have. Trump and the republicans believe in “zones of influence” as per New National Defense Strategy. This means the US can do anything(target and murder civilians, blow of boats in territorial or international waters, take any cargo it want without compensation, etc.) within its declared zone. China and Europe can do the same. Sorry Taiwan. Russia being a weak and poor country is not able to project power and therefore can not control a zone.

So yes this is the new world order. The free navigation of the seas and rule of law are no more. When the US invades and occupies Venezuela we will be able to extract oil without paying royalties to the locals. We also can take anything.

This administration is hell-bent on dismantling the command-and-control structures of narco-trafficking routes that funnel illicit drugs in to the U.S. and have contributed to the drug-death catastrophe that kills 100,000 Americans every year.

Just think of it as Washington DC regulations for your pet agendas that you know and love so much. In short, FAFO.

You are f’ed in the head. This administration has not taken any steps to dismantle “the command and control structures” of drug trafficking. In fact the price of illegal drugs in the US under the Trump administration have fallen by 25-35% in since January. The purity and availability of illegal drugs has increased.

What Trump and republicans have done is pardon the head of major cartels and any politicians who works with them. How do you explain that?

Trump and republicans like yourself do not give a sh#t about drug users. There is already an EO being drafted to allow the killing of drug users in the US.

DP. You absolute liar and clown. The draft bill
is to allow the killing of narco-terrorists. Do you even understand what that means? Stop spreading your fake claims and propaganda.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/19/us/politics/trump-drug-cartels-war-authorization.html

Anyone who does drugs is a “narco-terrorist”. I am sure you agree all drug users must be killed as they are narcoterrorists.

It's not even worth discussing with you. You clearly aren't a serious person and have no idea what a narcoterrorist is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a Dark-Fleet ship, not a Venezuelan tanker.

+1

Venezuela has ZERO lawful claim here. None.

That is false. Trump and republicans seizing a tanking is lawless.

This ship has been sanctioned since way back during the Biden administration. It’s only now that we’re actually doing something about it. Of course it’s legal to seize a sanctioned ship participating in illegal activities. But do continue displaying your ignorance.

Sleep Joe Biden? Surely you jest. So you are blaming this f up and lawless action on Biden now? At what point do you actually take responsibility for your actions?

Sorry, what are you babbling about now? The ship has been sanctioned since Biden's administration. There has been no lawless action - quite the contrary, in fact. Glad this ship can no longer illegally transport oil to terrorists. Interesting that you're not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can seize foreigns vessels based on sanctions we establish?

Would those crowing that this seizure today is perfectly lawful also defend China’s right or Russia’s right or another country’s right to seize American vessels based on sanctions they establish?

They already have. Trump and the republicans believe in “zones of influence” as per New National Defense Strategy. This means the US can do anything(target and murder civilians, blow of boats in territorial or international waters, take any cargo it want without compensation, etc.) within its declared zone. China and Europe can do the same. Sorry Taiwan. Russia being a weak and poor country is not able to project power and therefore can not control a zone.

So yes this is the new world order. The free navigation of the seas and rule of law are no more. When the US invades and occupies Venezuela we will be able to extract oil without paying royalties to the locals. We also can take anything.

This administration is hell-bent on dismantling the command-and-control structures of narco-trafficking routes that funnel illicit drugs in to the U.S. and have contributed to the drug-death catastrophe that kills 100,000 Americans every year.

Just think of it as Washington DC regulations for your pet agendas that you know and love so much. In short, FAFO.

It's a fool's errand to think that drug flow can be meaningfully interrupted, but then again we all know Trump is a fool. Where this is demand, there is a way.

"If it saves even one life..." - every democrat.

Exactly what I was going to say. You’d think Democrats would be applauding the effort to disrupt the drug trade in the Americas… but no. They’re lamenting the fact that someone finally has the guts to do something. Just incredible.
DP

The problem with leading a corrupt, incompetent, and traitorous administration is that people tend to stop believing you. Not that Trump would ever do anything to help America, but if he ever did (even accidentally) no one would believe it.

Sounds like a you problem. Normal people without a political axe to grind are able to understand nuance and avoid knee-jerk reactions.

You don’t seem to understand anything, really. It’s just as embarrassing as this
dumpster fire of an administration.

It will be deeply satisfying when these murderers end up where they belong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a Dark-Fleet ship, not a Venezuelan tanker.

+1

Venezuela has ZERO lawful claim here. None.

That is false. Trump and republicans seizing a tanking is lawless.

This ship has been sanctioned since way back during the Biden administration. It’s only now that we’re actually doing something about it. Of course it’s legal to seize a sanctioned ship participating in illegal activities. But do continue displaying your ignorance.

Sleep Joe Biden? Surely you jest. So you are blaming this f up and lawless action on Biden now? At what point do you actually take responsibility for your actions?

Sorry, what are you babbling about now? The ship has been sanctioned since Biden's administration. There has been no lawless action - quite the contrary, in fact. Glad this ship can no longer illegally transport oil to terrorists. Interesting that you're not.

DP What’s actually astonishing is your ability to suspend disbelief and believe literally anything our government tells us at this point. Like, “illegally transport oil to terrorists” … zero confidence in the ability of State to tell the truth, so why on earth would I believe them here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a Dark-Fleet ship, not a Venezuelan tanker.

+1

Venezuela has ZERO lawful claim here. None.

That is false. Trump and republicans seizing a tanking is lawless.

This ship has been sanctioned since way back during the Biden administration. It’s only now that we’re actually doing something about it. Of course it’s legal to seize a sanctioned ship participating in illegal activities. But do continue displaying your ignorance.

Sleep Joe Biden? Surely you jest. So you are blaming this f up and lawless action on Biden now? At what point do you actually take responsibility for your actions?

Sorry, what are you babbling about now? The ship has been sanctioned since Biden's administration. There has been no lawless action - quite the contrary, in fact. Glad this ship can no longer illegally transport oil to terrorists. Interesting that you're not.

DP What’s actually astonishing is your ability to suspend disbelief and believe literally anything our government tells us at this point. Like, “illegally transport oil to terrorists” … zero confidence in the ability of State to tell the truth, so why on earth would I believe them here?

DP

I’ve been worried about China and their cronies using Venezuela for years.

Why?

Because China has amassed a big foothold in the Caribbean, including land, buildings, businesses, and ports. They are directly across from Venezuela in the ABC islands, directly across from Florida in the Bahamas, and in several islands in between.

It’s all fun and games when terror ground and the countries that bankroll them are far away in the Middle East, but it’s quite different when they are so close and have been shipping things for many years. Oil is one thing: a commodity that fuels terror groups. But it’s not far fetched to wonder what weapons have been shipped. Or people.

[Anonymous]

https://www.curacaochronicle.com/post/opinion/this-is-how-china-does-it/

People in the Caribbean have been predicting this sort of thing. This opinion piece from a Curaçao paper provides quick highlights of how China has acquired ports around the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.curacaochronicle.com/post/opinion/this-is-how-china-does-it/

People in the Caribbean have been predicting this sort of thing. This opinion piece from a Curaçao paper provides quick highlights of how China has acquired ports around the world.

as usual , Democrats and progressives have no clue. somewhere there has to be a white US citizen to blame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a Dark-Fleet ship, not a Venezuelan tanker.

+1

Venezuela has ZERO lawful claim here. None.

That is false. Trump and republicans seizing a tanking is lawless.

This ship has been sanctioned since way back during the Biden administration. It’s only now that we’re actually doing something about it. Of course it’s legal to seize a sanctioned ship participating in illegal activities. But do continue displaying your ignorance.

Sleep Joe Biden? Surely you jest. So you are blaming this f up and lawless action on Biden now? At what point do you actually take responsibility for your actions?

Sorry, what are you babbling about now? The ship has been sanctioned since Biden's administration. There has been no lawless action - quite the contrary, in fact. Glad this ship can no longer illegally transport oil to terrorists. Interesting that you're not.

DP What’s actually astonishing is your ability to suspend disbelief and believe literally anything our government tells us at this point. Like, “illegally transport oil to terrorists” … zero confidence in the ability of State to tell the truth, so why on earth would I believe them here?

DP

I’ve been worried about China and their cronies using Venezuela for years.

Why?

Because China has amassed a big foothold in the Caribbean, including land, buildings, businesses, and ports. They are directly across from Venezuela in the ABC islands, directly across from Florida in the Bahamas, and in several islands in between.

It’s all fun and games when terror ground and the countries that bankroll them are far away in the Middle East, but it’s quite different when they are so close and have been shipping things for many years. Oil is one thing: a commodity that fuels terror groups. But it’s not far fetched to wonder what weapons have been shipped. Or people.

Funny enough, these are the exact same thoughts China, Russia and the like have when we set up shop on their doorsteps and start funding "freedom" fighters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a Dark-Fleet ship, not a Venezuelan tanker.

+1

Venezuela has ZERO lawful claim here. None.

That is false. Trump and republicans seizing a tanking is lawless.

This ship has been sanctioned since way back during the Biden administration. It’s only now that we’re actually doing something about it. Of course it’s legal to seize a sanctioned ship participating in illegal activities. But do continue displaying your ignorance.

Sleep Joe Biden? Surely you jest. So you are blaming this f up and lawless action on Biden now? At what point do you actually take responsibility for your actions?

Sorry, what are you babbling about now? The ship has been sanctioned since Biden's administration. There has been no lawless action - quite the contrary, in fact. Glad this ship can no longer illegally transport oil to terrorists. Interesting that you're not.

DP What’s actually astonishing is your ability to suspend disbelief and believe literally anything our government tells us at this point. Like, “illegally transport oil to terrorists” … zero confidence in the ability of State to tell the truth, so why on earth would I believe them here?

DP

I’ve been worried about China and their cronies using Venezuela for years.

Why?

Because China has amassed a big foothold in the Caribbean, including land, buildings, businesses, and ports. They are directly across from Venezuela in the ABC islands, directly across from Florida in the Bahamas, and in several islands in between.

It’s all fun and games when terror ground and the countries that bankroll them are far away in the Middle East, but it’s quite different when they are so close and have been shipping things for many years. Oil is one thing: a commodity that fuels terror groups. But it’s not far fetched to wonder what weapons have been shipped. Or people.

The people who fund them are billionaires in this country that don't have to register as paid foreign agents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a Dark-Fleet ship, not a Venezuelan tanker.

+1

Venezuela has ZERO lawful claim here. None.

That is false. Trump and republicans seizing a tanking is lawless.

This ship has been sanctioned since way back during the Biden administration. It’s only now that we’re actually doing something about it. Of course it’s legal to seize a sanctioned ship participating in illegal activities. But do continue displaying your ignorance.

Sleep Joe Biden? Surely you jest. So you are blaming this f up and lawless action on Biden now? At what point do you actually take responsibility for your actions?

Sorry, what are you babbling about now? The ship has been sanctioned since Biden's administration. There has been no lawless action - quite the contrary, in fact. Glad this ship can no longer illegally transport oil to terrorists. Interesting that you're not.

DP What’s actually astonishing is your ability to suspend disbelief and believe literally anything our government tells us at this point. Like, “illegally transport oil to terrorists” … zero confidence in the ability of State to tell the truth, so why on earth would I believe them here?

DP

I’ve been worried about China and their cronies using Venezuela for years.

Why?

Because China has amassed a big foothold in the Caribbean, including land, buildings, businesses, and ports. They are directly across from Venezuela in the ABC islands, directly across from Florida in the Bahamas, and in several islands in between.

It’s all fun and games when terror ground and the countries that bankroll them are far away in the Middle East, but it’s quite different when they are so close and have been shipping things for many years. Oil is one thing: a commodity that fuels terror groups. But it’s not far fetched to wonder what weapons have been shipped. Or people.

Funny enough, these are the exact same thoughts China, Russia and the like have when we set up shop on their doorsteps and start funding "freedom" fighters.

Right. And for good reason.

But it’s never bothered us since we have always been on top.

ICYMI: we are slip-sliding down on the Chutes and Ladders game of world power/world protector, and I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone thought this would be a good idea.

I mean, anyone who took a history class or watched a related movie should have some inkling about the fall of Rome. Short version: when they got fat, lazy, and greedy, they were dethroned. The hungry who are motivated to climb will undoubtedly have an edge.

Why we let China establish a foothold in the Caribbean (not to mention all the real estate they’ve acquired in the actual USA) is beyond me. It’s impossible to put the genie back in the bottle.