Klonopin is a heck of a drug

[Anonymous]

Different psychiatrist here. Agree benzos have their place and can be tremendously helpful, but there are very few cases where daily use is warranted. I have had a much easier time tapering off daily benzos (for inherited patients either from elderly psychiatrists or undertrained, overaggressive nurse practitioners) than tapering off daily THC in any form. When I see a new patient who is smoking weed or using gummies daily, I know from experience there's almost nothing I can do to help them with their problems until they stop using, and even if they want to (which is rare), there just aren't any resources out there to help them stop, and it's so hard. The few who do eventually stop do much better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Different psychiatrist here. Agree benzos have their place and can be tremendously helpful, but there are very few cases where daily use is warranted. I have had a much easier time tapering off daily benzos (for inherited patients either from elderly psychiatrists or undertrained, overaggressive nurse practitioners) than tapering off daily THC in any form. When I see a new patient who is smoking weed or using gummies daily, I know from experience there's almost nothing I can do to help them with their problems until they stop using, and even if they want to (which is rare), there just aren't any resources out there to help them stop, and it's so hard. The few who do eventually stop do much better.

Interesting. Is that because of psychological addiction to THC?

[Anonymous]

I'm the DCUM poster who mentions this any time Klonopin is mentioned: Stevie Nicks said recovering from Klonopin use was the hardest of any drug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different psychiatrist here. Agree benzos have their place and can be tremendously helpful, but there are very few cases where daily use is warranted. I have had a much easier time tapering off daily benzos (for inherited patients either from elderly psychiatrists or undertrained, overaggressive nurse practitioners) than tapering off daily THC in any form. When I see a new patient who is smoking weed or using gummies daily, I know from experience there's almost nothing I can do to help them with their problems until they stop using, and even if they want to (which is rare), there just aren't any resources out there to help them stop, and it's so hard. The few who do eventually stop do much better.

Interesting. Is that because of psychological addiction to THC?

In before the MJ defenders arrive: Marijuana is not addictive. Even if it is, plenty of CEOs that I know personally use marijuana daily without any issues.

[Anonymous]

Elon Musk uses ketamine and did a heck of a job with DOGE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Different psychiatrist here. Agree benzos have their place and can be tremendously helpful, but there are very few cases where daily use is warranted. I have had a much easier time tapering off daily benzos (for inherited patients either from elderly psychiatrists or undertrained, overaggressive nurse practitioners) than tapering off daily THC in any form. When I see a new patient who is smoking weed or using gummies daily, I know from experience there's almost nothing I can do to help them with their problems until they stop using, and even if they want to (which is rare), there just aren't any resources out there to help them stop, and it's so hard. The few who do eventually stop do much better.

Question on the benzos … I lurk on various psychiatry blogs and podcasts, and I hear one psychiatrist say that in very, very rare case that a person actually needs benzos for extreme GAD, that it should be a daily dose and not PRN. What’s your opinion on that? It kind of makes sense to me because in that case the goal is to reduce anxiety on an overall basis, not treat panic attacks. This Dr was pretty clear that this was a very rare case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different psychiatrist here. Agree benzos have their place and can be tremendously helpful, but there are very few cases where daily use is warranted. I have had a much easier time tapering off daily benzos (for inherited patients either from elderly psychiatrists or undertrained, overaggressive nurse practitioners) than tapering off daily THC in any form. When I see a new patient who is smoking weed or using gummies daily, I know from experience there's almost nothing I can do to help them with their problems until they stop using, and even if they want to (which is rare), there just aren't any resources out there to help them stop, and it's so hard. The few who do eventually stop do much better.

Interesting. Is that because of psychological addiction to THC?

In before the MJ defenders arrive: Marijuana is not addictive. Even if it is, plenty of CEOs that I know personally use marijuana daily without any issues.

Yes it is addictive. Just because it doesn’t have the same physically addictive properties of a benzo or opiate doesn’t mean it is not addictive. And of course just because some can use in moderation does not mean it is not addictive for others.

https://www.cdc.gov/cannabis/health-effects/cannabis-use-disorder.html

[Anonymous]

When you’re taking Klonopin for anxiety, it doesn’t get you high. It brings you back down to “normal”. Don’t confuse medical usage with recreational drug abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you’re taking Klonopin for anxiety, it doesn’t get you high. It brings you back down to “normal”. Don’t confuse medical usage with recreational drug abuse.

That doesn’t change any of the issues with addiction. It also interferes with therapy for anxiety. It’s a really harmful crutch if used to treat anxiety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you’re taking Klonopin for anxiety, it doesn’t get you high. It brings you back down to “normal”. Don’t confuse medical usage with recreational drug abuse.

That doesn’t change any of the issues with addiction. It also interferes with therapy for anxiety. It’s a really harmful crutch if used to treat anxiety.

Repeating this nonsense won't magically make it come true the more you say it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you’re taking Klonopin for anxiety, it doesn’t get you high. It brings you back down to “normal”. Don’t confuse medical usage with recreational drug abuse.

That doesn’t change any of the issues with addiction. It also interferes with therapy for anxiety. It’s a really harmful crutch if used to treat anxiety.

Have you ever been prescribed Klonopin?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you’re taking Klonopin for anxiety, it doesn’t get you high. It brings you back down to “normal”. Don’t confuse medical usage with recreational drug abuse.

That doesn’t change any of the issues with addiction. It also interferes with therapy for anxiety. It’s a really harmful crutch if used to treat anxiety.

Repeating this nonsense won't magically make it come true the more you say it.

This isn’t nonsense - it is literally the consensus of the field of psychiatry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Different psychiatrist here. Agree benzos have their place and can be tremendously helpful, but there are very few cases where daily use is warranted. I have had a much easier time tapering off daily benzos (for inherited patients either from elderly psychiatrists or undertrained, overaggressive nurse practitioners) than tapering off daily THC in any form. When I see a new patient who is smoking weed or using gummies daily, I know from experience there's almost nothing I can do to help them with their problems until they stop using, and even if they want to (which is rare), there just aren't any resources out there to help them stop, and it's so hard. The few who do eventually stop do much better.

Your patients need to you to have this: https://marijuana-anonymous.org/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you’re taking Klonopin for anxiety, it doesn’t get you high. It brings you back down to “normal”. Don’t confuse medical usage with recreational drug abuse.

That doesn’t change any of the issues with addiction. It also interferes with therapy for anxiety. It’s a really harmful crutch if used to treat anxiety.

Repeating this nonsense won't magically make it come true the more you say it.

This isn’t nonsense - it is literally the consensus of the field of psychiatry.

It most certainly isn't. Stop spreading lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different psychiatrist here. Agree benzos have their place and can be tremendously helpful, but there are very few cases where daily use is warranted. I have had a much easier time tapering off daily benzos (for inherited patients either from elderly psychiatrists or undertrained, overaggressive nurse practitioners) than tapering off daily THC in any form. When I see a new patient who is smoking weed or using gummies daily, I know from experience there's almost nothing I can do to help them with their problems until they stop using, and even if they want to (which is rare), there just aren't any resources out there to help them stop, and it's so hard. The few who do eventually stop do much better.

Interesting. Is that because of psychological addiction to THC?

In before the MJ defenders arrive: Marijuana is not addictive. Even if it is, plenty of CEOs that I know personally use marijuana daily without any issues.

You're a poorly-informed idiot. Please educate yourself. Like most psychoactive substances, cannabis IS addictive, and the consequences can be significant.

I'm sure all the CEOs you know personally would tell you the same if they ever, you know, stopped using daily, which is when people tend to find out they're addicted.