Redshirting should be banned

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are several schools in Montgomery County where this is seemingly encouraged, specifically to gain unfair advantages in athletics. Landon and Mater Dei are particularly egregious. It’s gross, but it’s reality. One thing that would put a stop to this would be age limits for middle school and high school athletics. It would be nice to stop seeing 15 year olds maiming 70 lb 12 year olds at middle school games.

To be fair, a 70 pound 12 year old is super tiny for 12.

[Anonymous]

There has to be flexibility throughout k-12 too. A 15 year old who was redshirted or held back in elementary school but is now thriving and wants to graduate " on time" has no option to self correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care?

Not everything is a competition. Raise your kids the way you feel is best and let others do the same.

Why control what other do with their children? Isn't that a bit like controlling who can marry, what other do with their bodies/healthcare how others invest their time and money, etc?

Not OP but redshirters turn it into a competition by rigging it so their kids win. Other people don’t want it to be a competition, and if people simply followed the age cut-offs it wouldn’t be— whether your kid was bigger or more advanced would wind up being a function of luck and timing, not gaming the system.

Redshirting puts kids who are not redshirted at a distinct disadvantage because they were already going to be younger than most peers, and with redshirted kids in class, now they may be nearly 2 years younger than some peers. So when kids are tracked for reading and math, or when it’s time to try out for sports, they are much more likely to wind up in the less advanced track or not make the team.

Redshirting is not just done neutral personal choice. It’s an aggressive behavior that impacts all the other kids in the grade.

I did not redshirt my August birthday. She is not behind. It's not a competition. Good parenting will prevail and we don't have to "game the system".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care?

Not everything is a competition. Raise your kids the way you feel is best and let others do the same.

Why control what other do with their children? Isn't that a bit like controlling who can marry, what other do with their bodies/healthcare how others invest their time and money, etc?

Not OP but redshirters turn it into a competition by rigging it so their kids win. Other people don’t want it to be a competition, and if people simply followed the age cut-offs it wouldn’t be— whether your kid was bigger or more advanced would wind up being a function of luck and timing, not gaming the system.

Redshirting puts kids who are not redshirted at a distinct disadvantage because they were already going to be younger than most peers, and with redshirted kids in class, now they may be nearly 2 years younger than some peers. So when kids are tracked for reading and math, or when it’s time to try out for sports, they are much more likely to wind up in the less advanced track or not make the team.

Redshirting is not just done neutral personal choice. It’s an aggressive behavior that impacts all the other kids in the grade.

I did not redshirt my August birthday. She is not behind. It's not a competition. Good parenting will prevail and we don't have to "game the system".

I also didn't redshirt my August birthday and she is also not behind. But that's partly because she's at a school where redshirting doesn't happen. If she were in classes where a third of the kids were 18-22 months older than she is, she might be "behind" just by virtue of being the correct age for her grade among a bunch of kids who are a full year ahead.

See how that works?

[Anonymous]

I think the part about preschool is irrelevant. I have 2 friends who have just redshirted for high school. Each son did 8th grade twice

[Anonymous]

I love this!

Stop redshirting because I want my kids to be the biggest, most athletic and socially advanced over your summer birthday boys.

STOP REDSHIRTING!

[Anonymous]

I’m shocked that this is not a major issue for the democrats. It is obvious that only those with significant means can afford to do this. And clearly it’s a huge disadvantage for those kids who are left to compete and be compared with people up to two years older than them in their classes, whether that’s formally through test results or informally through behavior expectations etc. It seems like a very easy way to close some of the racial (and SES more broadly) achievement gap.

And republicans seem to like the idea too. Or is that the actual problem??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care?

Not everything is a competition. Raise your kids the way you feel is best and let others do the same.

Why control what other do with their children? Isn't that a bit like controlling who can marry, what other do with their bodies/healthcare how others invest their time and money, etc?

Who someone marries and what they do to their bodies, spend their money does not have a affect onto others. Redshirting without a severe developmental disability or severe illness intentionally puts others at an unfair disadvantage.

[Anonymous]

Redshirting is banned in at least NYC and has been brought it in another school district my children previously attended.

[Anonymous]

What advantage? We're constantly told here that redshirted kids will know their parents doubted their abilities and are always the biggest troublemakers shunned by other classmates and parents. Not much of an advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What advantage? We're constantly told here that redshirted kids will know their parents doubted their abilities and are always the biggest troublemakers shunned by other classmates and parents. Not much of an advantage.

Oh okay, so the extra year did nothing for them. Suuuurrreee! If you believe that, then move your kid up to the grade they belong it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What advantage? We're constantly told here that redshirted kids will know their parents doubted their abilities and are always the biggest troublemakers shunned by other classmates and parents. Not much of an advantage.

Yes, the parent did doubt their abilities. Isn’t that the point?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What advantage? We're constantly told here that redshirted kids will know their parents doubted their abilities and are always the biggest troublemakers shunned by other classmates and parents. Not much of an advantage.

Oh okay, so the extra year did nothing for them. Suuuurrreee! If you believe that, then move your kid up to the grade they belong it.

Oh, so you admit to being full of $hit with the mocking and belittling of children to make your points? Are you also bad at math and insist 17 is the normal age most kids go to college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What advantage? We're constantly told here that redshirted kids will know their parents doubted their abilities and are always the biggest troublemakers shunned by other classmates and parents. Not much of an advantage.

Yes, the parent did doubt their abilities. Isn’t that the point?!

So, what's the advantage then? What are you so worried about?

[Anonymous]

Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.