SR/Project Veritas video

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering how many people on this thread are actually Catholic and actually have kids at Stone Ridge, because some of the comments ring pretty false. As a Catholic parent raised in post-Vatican II schools and parishes, the only part that doesn't sound like everything I've heard my entire life is the actual word "subvert". Other than that, I've attended plenty of parishes where our priest has literally said something during mass that is contradictory to the black-and-white parts of Catholicism. He'll say something to the tune of "the church says this, but God says this, and so I leave you with the message that man is imperfect, god is not, and to follow the teachings of Jesus and..." and so on. Are there so many Catholics in this area who have never experienced this that they can't imagine that someone associated with a Catholic school would say this? I'm really bothered by the literalists and conservatives who have infiltrated the Catholic Church and turned their backs on thousands of years of intellectual thinking and debate.

You have a point. People are human; we must understand man is human and a sinner. There are subjects that are not as clear as the one on sexuality, but that one is very clear. On your example, you didn't specific any exact subject matter, but some things yes are subjective and interpretable. It depends on the subject. However, if congregations are being told something completely contradictory to the church teachings, the catechism, then that priest is wrong and leading his congregation astray. And yes, that's a problem and it should be addressed. When practicing catholic families choose to send their girls to a private catholic school, they expect the foundational values, ethics, morals that they have instilled in their household to be supported in the school at the foundational level. A teacher is an employee of the religious (catholic) school. If that employee communicates "subversion" to the values, morals, ethics, the school represents as being part of the archdiocese, that is a huge issue. This man should have already been fired. If the school chooses not to fire him, that's a huge issue on the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

I think your MS child should leave the school in that case. It doesn't sound like a good fit. It's not like your child's feelings are valid.

Why would they not be valid? I am not the PP, but if a child is feeling uncomfortable because a teacher in a CATHOLIC school mocks Catholicism, I think that is something that should be addressed by administration...especially if she is not the only student feeling that way.

THIS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering how many people on this thread are actually Catholic and actually have kids at Stone Ridge, because some of the comments ring pretty false. As a Catholic parent raised in post-Vatican II schools and parishes, the only part that doesn't sound like everything I've heard my entire life is the actual word "subvert". Other than that, I've attended plenty of parishes where our priest has literally said something during mass that is contradictory to the black-and-white parts of Catholicism. He'll say something to the tune of "the church says this, but God says this, and so I leave you with the message that man is imperfect, god is not, and to follow the teachings of Jesus and..." and so on. Are there so many Catholics in this area who have never experienced this that they can't imagine that someone associated with a Catholic school would say this? I'm really bothered by the literalists and conservatives who have infiltrated the Catholic Church and turned their backs on thousands of years of intellectual thinking and debate.

The very fact that SR hired two gay men to lead the MS and US tells you that the school and it's community are very liberal and live up to the belief of "love the sinner but not the sin". They supported this gay man promoting him from long-time teacher to dean of the MS. However, in trying to subvert the very basis of the school's teachings, this man did not live up to his side of the contract. He can live however he wants as a private citizen, but purposely trying to subvert the Catholic teachings of a Catholic school, no Catholic family at the school can support this. After all, they sent their girls there specifically for the Catholic foundation of their girls' education. And this guy just admitted publicly that he's working to subvert it. That's a fireable offense to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

I think your MS child should leave the school in that case. It doesn't sound like a good fit. It's not like your child's feelings are valid.

Why would they not be valid? I am not the PP, but if a child is feeling uncomfortable because a teacher in a CATHOLIC school mocks Catholicism, I think that is something that should be addressed by administration...especially if she is not the only student feeling that way.

It’s a Washington Independent School. It’s not associated with the Archdiocese of Washington. Although it’s a Sacred Heart affiliated school, there are no nuns or priest teaching at the school. Again, it’s a Washington Independent School with core values stemming from Catholicism but has faiths from all backgrounds attending the school.

You are incorrect. It is an independent school but it is associated with the ADW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering how many people on this thread are actually Catholic and actually have kids at Stone Ridge, because some of the comments ring pretty false. As a Catholic parent raised in post-Vatican II schools and parishes, the only part that doesn't sound like everything I've heard my entire life is the actual word "subvert". Other than that, I've attended plenty of parishes where our priest has literally said something during mass that is contradictory to the black-and-white parts of Catholicism. He'll say something to the tune of "the church says this, but God says this, and so I leave you with the message that man is imperfect, god is not, and to follow the teachings of Jesus and..." and so on. Are there so many Catholics in this area who have never experienced this that they can't imagine that someone associated with a Catholic school would say this? I'm really bothered by the literalists and conservatives who have infiltrated the Catholic Church and turned their backs on thousands of years of intellectual thinking and debate.

The very fact that SR hired two gay men to lead the MS and US tells you that the school and it's community are very liberal and live up to the belief of "love the sinner but not the sin". They supported this gay man promoting him from long-time teacher to dean of the MS. However, in trying to subvert the very basis of the school's teachings, this man did not live up to his side of the contract. He can live however he wants as a private citizen, but purposely trying to subvert the Catholic teachings of a Catholic school, no Catholic family at the school can support this. After all, they sent their girls there specifically for the Catholic foundation of their girls' education. And this guy just admitted publicly that he's working to subvert it. That's a fireable offense to me.

Thank you. No Catholic family can support this. Catholic families need to speak up publicly, not anonymously on this very thing. Does anyone know if anyone is getting anywhere with the school?

[Anonymous]

Is this what things are really like out there? I’m a Catholic on the west coast. Our parish school has multiple pairs of catholic teachers who are (civic) married couples. Our baptism class included a two-mom family.

Do you DMV Catholics really think that these people should be shunned and removed from Catholic society? Because a lot of others disagree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this what things are really like out there? I’m a Catholic on the west coast. Our parish school has multiple pairs of catholic teachers who are (civic) married couples. Our baptism class included a two-mom family.

Do you DMV Catholics really think that these people should be shunned and removed from Catholic society? Because a lot of others disagree with you.

nope. not at all what we are saying. Stop gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this what things are really like out there? I’m a Catholic on the west coast. Our parish school has multiple pairs of catholic teachers who are (civic) married couples. Our baptism class included a two-mom family.

Do you DMV Catholics really think that these people should be shunned and removed from Catholic society? Because a lot of others disagree with you.

no one is shunning anyone. calm down. read up on what it really means to be catholic and raise your children catholic then come back to the conversation educated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this what things are really like out there? I’m a Catholic on the west coast. Our parish school has multiple pairs of catholic teachers who are (civic) married couples. Our baptism class included a two-mom family.

Do you DMV Catholics really think that these people should be shunned and removed from Catholic society? Because a lot of others disagree with you.

no one is shunning anyone. calm down. read up on what it really means to be catholic and raise your children catholic then come back to the conversation educated.

I’ve read plenty and you can’t pick and choose from 2000 years’ theology and a worldwide religion just to suit your bigoted point of view. The insistence that every Catholic school needs to be a maga/opus dei foxhole or else it “isn’t Catholic” is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

I’ve read plenty and you can’t pick and choose from 2000 years’ theology and a worldwide religion just to suit your bigoted point of view. The insistence that every Catholic school needs to be a maga/opus dei foxhole or else it “isn’t Catholic” is ridiculous.

Stop. Please. You just want to fire out insults. The Dean of Students in a catholic school mocked catholic teachings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering how many people on this thread are actually Catholic and actually have kids at Stone Ridge, because some of the comments ring pretty false. As a Catholic parent raised in post-Vatican II schools and parishes, the only part that doesn't sound like everything I've heard my entire life is the actual word "subvert". Other than that, I've attended plenty of parishes where our priest has literally said something during mass that is contradictory to the black-and-white parts of Catholicism. He'll say something to the tune of "the church says this, but God says this, and so I leave you with the message that man is imperfect, god is not, and to follow the teachings of Jesus and..." and so on. Are there so many Catholics in this area who have never experienced this that they can't imagine that someone associated with a Catholic school would say this? I'm really bothered by the literalists and conservatives who have infiltrated the Catholic Church and turned their backs on thousands of years of intellectual thinking and debate.

I'm wondering if anyone at Project Veritas has kids at Stone Ridge and why they thought that was an appropriate place to run one of the bullshit "stings." And then I wonder what parents with kids at Stone Ridge think about a criminal enterprise like Project Veritas trying to thrust their children's school into the culture wars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

I think your MS child should leave the school in that case. It doesn't sound like a good fit. It's not like your child's feelings are valid.

Why would they not be valid? I am not the PP, but if a child is feeling uncomfortable because a teacher in a CATHOLIC school mocks Catholicism, I think that is something that should be addressed by administration...especially if she is not the only student feeling that way.

It’s a Washington Independent School. It’s not associated with the Archdiocese of Washington. Although it’s a Sacred Heart affiliated school, there are no nuns or priest teaching at the school. Again, it’s a Washington Independent School with core values stemming from Catholicism but has faiths from all backgrounds attending the school.

You are incorrect. It is an independent school but it is associated with the ADW.

+100 And I chuckled when this poster decided at that moment that a Catholic HS is indeed independent (to support their narrative) when DCUM users perpetually claim Catholic high schools are NOT independent. What a world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering how many people on this thread are actually Catholic and actually have kids at Stone Ridge, because some of the comments ring pretty false. As a Catholic parent raised in post-Vatican II schools and parishes, the only part that doesn't sound like everything I've heard my entire life is the actual word "subvert". Other than that, I've attended plenty of parishes where our priest has literally said something during mass that is contradictory to the black-and-white parts of Catholicism. He'll say something to the tune of "the church says this, but God says this, and so I leave you with the message that man is imperfect, god is not, and to follow the teachings of Jesus and..." and so on. Are there so many Catholics in this area who have never experienced this that they can't imagine that someone associated with a Catholic school would say this? I'm really bothered by the literalists and conservatives who have infiltrated the Catholic Church and turned their backs on thousands of years of intellectual thinking and debate.

I'm wondering if anyone at Project Veritas has kids at Stone Ridge and why they thought that was an appropriate place to run one of the bullshit "stings." And then I wonder what parents with kids at Stone Ridge think about a criminal enterprise like Project Veritas trying to thrust their children's school into the culture wars.

The footage was not filmed at the school. It was filmed at a conference for independent schools. There were others from other schools also featured in the clip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this what things are really like out there? I’m a Catholic on the west coast. Our parish school has multiple pairs of catholic teachers who are (civic) married couples. Our baptism class included a two-mom family.

Do you DMV Catholics really think that these people should be shunned and removed from Catholic society? Because a lot of others disagree with you.

no one is shunning anyone. calm down. read up on what it really means to be catholic and raise your children catholic then come back to the conversation educated.

I’ve read plenty and you can’t pick and choose from 2000 years’ theology and a worldwide religion just to suit your bigoted point of view. The insistence that every Catholic school needs to be a maga/opus dei foxhole or else it “isn’t Catholic” is ridiculous.

I don't know what you've been reading, but it's obviously nothing of Catholic theology or YOU wouldn't be the one trying to pick & choose whatever of the faith suits your woke beliefs. Catholic schools do not need to be of the opus dei or maga variety (mercy!), but it also needs to be based on full Catholic teachings. Not your pick & choose woke theology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this what things are really like out there? I’m a Catholic on the west coast. Our parish school has multiple pairs of catholic teachers who are (civic) married couples. Our baptism class included a two-mom family.

Do you DMV Catholics really think that these people should be shunned and removed from Catholic society? Because a lot of others disagree with you.

This is not a uniquely SR issue; children questioning their identity are confronting institutions and families across America, and many seem somewhat overtaken by events. Schools need to clarify to the whole community (internal and external) what happens when a child seeks support at school with their identity questions and feelings. Make the roles, boundaries and accountability therein transparent to children, faculty, admin, counselors and parents. If everyone is doing their own thing, even well intended, problems will arise that go beyond doctrinal interpretations.