Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.

[Anonymous]

Please don’t derail this thread by attacking Harry and Meghan.

Here’s my question: there are media reports that Harry gave his kids the Sussex last name to unify their family (whatever that means).

I thought Harry’s last name was Mountbatten and Sussex was just a title (Duke of Sussex) and titles can change (ie: William had a different title before becoming the Prince of Wales, right?)

I don’t understand how Sussex can be a last name. Does it mean Harry changed his last name?

So confused.

[Anonymous]

Archie and Lilibet were Mountbatten-Windsor which is the family name, but growing up Harry and William went by their title as last name, Wales. On the birth certificates of his kids Harry was Duke of Sussex as last name, not Mountbatten-Windsor. So now the kids will go by Sussex, the way William’s kids go by Cambridge now with his new title.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Archie and Lilibet were Mountbatten-Windsor which is the family name, but growing up Harry and William went by their title as last name, Wales. On the birth certificates of his kids Harry was Duke of Sussex as last name, not Mountbatten-Windsor. So now the kids will go by Sussex, the way William’s kids go by Cambridge now with his new title.

William’s kids now go by Wales after William became Prince of Wales.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Archie and Lilibet were Mountbatten-Windsor which is the family name, but growing up Harry and William went by their title as last name, Wales. On the birth certificates of his kids Harry was Duke of Sussex as last name, not Mountbatten-Windsor. So now the kids will go by Sussex, the way William’s kids go by Cambridge now with his new title.

William’s kids now go by Wales after William became Prince of Wales.

No, he was Prince of Wales and became Duke of Cambridge upon his wedding. Same with Harry, first Prince of Wales and then Duke of Sussex.

William became Prince of Wales when the Queen died in 2022. He was given the title Duke of Cambridge after his wedding in 2012, and his children were enrolled in school with the last name Cambridge. Now that he has a “higher level” title than Duke of Cambridge, they will be George/Charlotte/Louis Wales, just like William and Harry were known as William Wales and Harry Wales in college and the military. I believe on the children’s birth certificates both William and Kate didn’t even use a last name.

To;dr, their “family name” is Mountbatten-Windsor (really, it’s just Windsor), but informally their last name is their title or their father’s.

[Anonymous]

But since Harry left the BRF, why would he uses title as his family’s last name instead of his actual last name: Mountbatten-Windsor or simply Windsor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But since Harry left the BRF, why would he uses title as his family’s last name instead of his actual last name: Mountbatten-Windsor or simply Windsor?

Yes their words don't match their action. If they really wanted to be their own people they would be Harry and Meg Windsor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Archie and Lilibet were Mountbatten-Windsor which is the family name, but growing up Harry and William went by their title as last name, Wales. On the birth certificates of his kids Harry was Duke of Sussex as last name, not Mountbatten-Windsor. So now the kids will go by Sussex, the way William’s kids go by Cambridge now with his new title.

William’s kids now go by Wales after William became Prince of Wales.

No, he was Prince of Wales and became Duke of Cambridge upon his wedding. Same with Harry, first Prince of Wales and then Duke of Sussex.

William became Prince of Wales when the Queen died in 2022. He was given the title Duke of Cambridge after his wedding in 2012, and his children were enrolled in school with the last name Cambridge. Now that he has a “higher level” title than Duke of Cambridge, they will be George/Charlotte/Louis Wales, just like William and Harry were known as William Wales and Harry Wales in college and the military. I believe on the children’s birth certificates both William and Kate didn’t even use a last name.

To;dr, their “family name” is Mountbatten-Windsor (really, it’s just Windsor), but informally their last name is their title or their father’s.

No! He grew up Prince of Wales.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Archie and Lilibet were Mountbatten-Windsor which is the family name, but growing up Harry and William went by their title as last name, Wales. On the birth certificates of his kids Harry was Duke of Sussex as last name, not Mountbatten-Windsor. So now the kids will go by Sussex, the way William’s kids go by Cambridge now with his new title.

William’s kids now go by Wales after William became Prince of Wales.

No, he was Prince of Wales and became Duke of Cambridge upon his wedding. Same with Harry, first Prince of Wales and then Duke of Sussex.

William became Prince of Wales when the Queen died in 2022. He was given the title Duke of Cambridge after his wedding in 2012, and his children were enrolled in school with the last name Cambridge. Now that he has a “higher level” title than Duke of Cambridge, they will be George/Charlotte/Louis Wales, just like William and Harry were known as William Wales and Harry Wales in college and the military. I believe on the children’s birth certificates both William and Kate didn’t even use a last name.

To;dr, their “family name” is Mountbatten-Windsor (really, it’s just Windsor), but informally their last name is their title or their father’s.

No! He grew up Prince of Wales.

Uh, no, their father was Prince of Wales.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Archie and Lilibet were Mountbatten-Windsor which is the family name, but growing up Harry and William went by their title as last name, Wales. On the birth certificates of his kids Harry was Duke of Sussex as last name, not Mountbatten-Windsor. So now the kids will go by Sussex, the way William’s kids go by Cambridge now with his new title.

William’s kids now go by Wales after William became Prince of Wales.

No, he was Prince of Wales and became Duke of Cambridge upon his wedding. Same with Harry, first Prince of Wales and then Duke of Sussex.

William became Prince of Wales when the Queen died in 2022. He was given the title Duke of Cambridge after his wedding in 2012, and his children were enrolled in school with the last name Cambridge. Now that he has a “higher level” title than Duke of Cambridge, they will be George/Charlotte/Louis Wales, just like William and Harry were known as William Wales and Harry Wales in college and the military. I believe on the children’s birth certificates both William and Kate didn’t even use a last name.

To;dr, their “family name” is Mountbatten-Windsor (really, it’s just Windsor), but informally their last name is their title or their father’s.

No! He grew up Prince of Wales.

Before marrying and receiving his own title, William and Harry used their father’s title in the same way as their children go by their current titles now. William went from William of Wales through his father’s title to the Duke of Cambridge then back to the Prince of Wales when it became his highest title.

[Anonymous]

Still confused. How does their name keep changing/evolving?

[Anonymous]

Yeah it’s almost like Harry still wants his title and privileges but doesn’t want to support Britain by actually working. Hmmm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Archie and Lilibet were Mountbatten-Windsor which is the family name, but growing up Harry and William went by their title as last name, Wales. On the birth certificates of his kids Harry was Duke of Sussex as last name, not Mountbatten-Windsor. So now the kids will go by Sussex, the way William’s kids go by Cambridge now with his new title.

William’s kids now go by Wales after William became Prince of Wales.

No, he was Prince of Wales and became Duke of Cambridge upon his wedding. Same with Harry, first Prince of Wales and then Duke of Sussex.

William became Prince of Wales when the Queen died in 2022. He was given the title Duke of Cambridge after his wedding in 2012, and his children were enrolled in school with the last name Cambridge. Now that he has a “higher level” title than Duke of Cambridge, they will be George/Charlotte/Louis Wales, just like William and Harry were known as William Wales and Harry Wales in college and the military. I believe on the children’s birth certificates both William and Kate didn’t even use a last name.

To;dr, their “family name” is Mountbatten-Windsor (really, it’s just Windsor), but informally their last name is their title or their father’s.

No! He grew up Prince of Wales.

Before marrying and receiving his own title, William and Harry used their father’s title in the same way as their children go by their current titles now. William went from William of Wales through his father’s title to the Duke of Cambridge then back to the Prince of Wales when it became his highest title.

They were born Mountbatten-Windsor. There was no "going back to the Prince of Wales">

[Anonymous]

They get to choose their names.

[Anonymous]

I saw an article a few weeks back saying Charlotte goes by “Lottie Wales” in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still confused. How does their name keep changing/evolving?

Because it doesn’t really matter for them.