Long-term sub instead of classroom teacher

[Anonymous]

I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

[Anonymous]

I'm in APS and we have openings for long term subs at almost every school.

[Anonymous]

I’d love a long term sub at this point. Our MS cannot get long term and classes with different sub each week. Fun, fun!

[Anonymous]

I was a long term sub last year and left after two weeks. It was clear the principal had no real intention of finding a permanent teacher, and in the meantime, I was going to be responsible for report cards, teacher conferences, etc. - not to mention, an incredibly unruly group of students who made it impossible for the others to learn or even hear. It was just absurd, especially considering the pennies subs are paid. No thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

I don’t have specific numbers but my hunch as a teacher is that it’s a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

How is a student’s education affected by LT sub vs teacher?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

How is a student’s education affected by LT sub vs teacher?

It would be like having a babysitter all the time and comparing how you’re cared for to the kids whose parents are the ones taking care of them. It’s a person in the room most likely handing them premade material to do- at best, they’re attempting to teach it but they aren’t usually licensed teachers so they’re shaky on how to teach or the content itself. In other words, it’s education only in the most technical of technicalities.

-teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

How is a student’s education affected by LT sub vs teacher?

It would be like having a babysitter all the time and comparing how you’re cared for to the kids whose parents are the ones taking care of them. It’s a person in the room most likely handing them premade material to do- at best, they’re attempting to teach it but they aren’t usually licensed teachers so they’re shaky on how to teach or the content itself. In other words, it’s education only in the most technical of technicalities.

-teacher

My kids have had several long-term subs who were retired teachers from that school. I have no idea if they were still actively licensed, but they certainly were for quite a while. I was very impressed with the education they were receiving from those subs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was a long term sub last year and left after two weeks. It was clear the principal had no real intention of finding a permanent teacher, and in the meantime, I was going to be responsible for report cards, teacher conferences, etc. - not to mention, an incredibly unruly group of students who made it impossible for the others to learn or even hear. It was just absurd, especially considering the pennies subs are paid. No thanks.

I bet it made it crystal clear why teachers are leaving the profession in high numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

How is a student’s education affected by LT sub vs teacher?

It would be like having a babysitter all the time and comparing how you’re cared for to the kids whose parents are the ones taking care of them. It’s a person in the room most likely handing them premade material to do- at best, they’re attempting to teach it but they aren’t usually licensed teachers so they’re shaky on how to teach or the content itself. In other words, it’s education only in the most technical of technicalities.

-teacher

A parent in another thread said that teachers are just babysitters....wouldn't it be ironic if the same parent was upset their child had an LT sub

[Anonymous]

Our school has a LT sub and we just hired a teacher trainee for the position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

How is a student’s education affected by LT sub vs teacher?

My ES child had one two years in a row, she's a year behind in both reading and math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

How is a student’s education affected by LT sub vs teacher?

It would be like having a babysitter all the time and comparing how you’re cared for to the kids whose parents are the ones taking care of them. It’s a person in the room most likely handing them premade material to do- at best, they’re attempting to teach it but they aren’t usually licensed teachers so they’re shaky on how to teach or the content itself. In other words, it’s education only in the most technical of technicalities.

-teacher

A parent in another thread said that teachers are just babysitters....wouldn't it be ironic if the same parent was upset their child had an LT sub

Nasty DCUM parents love to say that shit until their kid actually gets an babysitter (long term sub) and then they’re crying and carrying on about their kid needing a real teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

this should be public info buried in some report. what specific record request can be sent to FCPS to obtain this info?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to how many schools are still seeing long-term subs versus a permanent teacher. Do you have any classes where it's a long-term sub instead of a teacher?

How is a student’s education affected by LT sub vs teacher?

My ES child had one two years in a row, she's a year behind in both reading and math.

This is education under false pretense if this LT sub doesn’t have the qualification and experience equivalent to a teacher.