Virginia or Villanova?

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Anonymous wrote:Two entirely different schools with almost nothing in common. Of course a kid may like both. My DS thought about applying to VIllanova and would have if he had not gotten into UVA early.

UVA is a much stronger school. I’m from the NY area and Villanova was only well known because if basketball. Those who argue UVA is only regionally known are really not accurate, at least nowadays.

lol. Bullshit. You public school lifers are so deluded.

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Anonymous wrote:OOS admissions to UVA are much, much tougher than Villanova. I have a good friend who has two sons going to school at Villanova. Both went after being rejected from UVA in state from a top NOVA publc high school. OP.

Anecdotal reports mean nothing I have a friend who’s daughter was rejected by Holy Cross but was accepted by Yale. Obviously that tells us nothing about the relative merits of Yale vs Holy Cross. And your friends’s sons experiences with UVA vs Nova also tell us nothing about those 2 schools.

No, but the common data set for both schools does. Sure, there will be outliers. But to disagree with the proposition that, on average, UVA is more selective than Villanova is to deny reality.

Yes, but UVA hasn’t posted it’s common data set for the class just admitted. I posted Villanova’s numbers and there have been dramatic changes. Until UVA posts their numbers, we won’t know how the 2 compare currently. Until then, all we can say is that the incoming freshman class compares very favorably with last year’s incoming class at UVA and that UVA’s admissions profile has remained pretty steady in recent years.

So no, not denying reality. Just recognizing a new reality which you’re ignoring.

LOL if you think UVA's numbers have "held steady" in recent years. Here's the actual data that proves you wrong. Does the mean SAT score increasing from 1369 to 1451 in the last five years sound "pretty steady" to you?

https://ira.virginia.edu/university-stats-facts/undergraduate-admissions

The test has gotten easier., especially for UMC kids who all prep for it.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA out is state is a ripoff. State universities are great on their own terms, but it is simply a different educational experience at privates. Obviously, in-state I would go for Virginia. Here, go with Villanova.

If you say that, then you have to agree that other states' OOS programs are even MORE of a "rip-off" (see UCLA and Berkeley). But of course your kid couldn't get in to those programs to begin wiht. Read and learn before posting

Please take your own advice: UCLA and Berkeley are cheaper oos. The only similarly priced oos to Virginia is Michigan. Reading comprehension helps too: state universities don’t give the same bang for the buck, period, compared to privates.

No, they are not. UCLA is more than $73K for OOS with no budget for transportation. Berkeley is $78K with minimal allowance for transportation. Aren't you and dad planning to go out and settle junior in the room? That costs money not included in the estimates. Isn't the whole family planning some day to fly for graduation? Not included. Here is Berkeley at $78K. https://www.sofi.com/university-of-california-berkeley-tuition-and-fee/#:~:text=UC%20Berkeley%20tuition%20for%20the,out%2Dof%2Dstate%20students.

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Anonymous wrote:OOS admissions to UVA are much, much tougher than Villanova. I have a good friend who has two sons going to school at Villanova. Both went after being rejected from UVA in state from a top NOVA publc high school. OP.

Anecdotal reports mean nothing I have a friend who’s daughter was rejected by Holy Cross but was accepted by Yale. Obviously that tells us nothing about the relative merits of Yale vs Holy Cross. And your friends’s sons experiences with UVA vs Nova also tell us nothing about those 2 schools.

No, but the common data set for both schools does. Sure, there will be outliers. But to disagree with the proposition that, on average, UVA is more selective than Villanova is to deny reality.

Yes, but UVA hasn’t posted it’s common data set for the class just admitted. I posted Villanova’s numbers and there have been dramatic changes. Until UVA posts their numbers, we won’t know how the 2 compare currently. Until then, all we can say is that the incoming freshman class compares very favorably with last year’s incoming class at UVA and that UVA’s admissions profile has remained pretty steady in recent years.

So no, not denying reality. Just recognizing a new reality which you’re ignoring.

LOL if you think UVA's numbers have "held steady" in recent years. Here's the actual data that proves you wrong. Does the mean SAT score increasing from 1369 to 1451 in the last five years sound "pretty steady" to you?

https://ira.virginia.edu/university-stats-facts/undergraduate-admissions

The test has gotten easier., especially for UMC kids who all prep for it.

Still banging that useless drum that no one listens to, aren't you?

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Anonymous wrote:UVA out is state is a ripoff. State universities are great on their own terms, but it is simply a different educational experience at privates. Obviously, in-state I would go for Virginia. Here, go with Villanova.

If you say that, then you have to agree that other states' OOS programs are even MORE of a "rip-off" (see UCLA and Berkeley). But of course your kid couldn't get in to those programs to begin wiht. Read and learn before posting

Please take your own advice: UCLA and Berkeley are cheaper oos. The only similarly priced oos to Virginia is Michigan. Reading comprehension helps too: state universities don’t give the same bang for the buck, period, compared to privates.

No, they are not. UCLA is more than $73K for OOS with no budget for transportation. Berkeley is $78K with minimal allowance for transportation. Aren't you and dad planning to go out and settle junior in the room? That costs money not included in the estimates. Isn't the whole family planning some day to fly for graduation? Not included. Here is Berkeley at $78K. https://www.sofi.com/university-of-california-berkeley-tuition-and-fee/#:~:text=UC%20Berkeley%20tuition%20for%20the,out%2Dof%2Dstate%20students.

Sigh. Kids today.
Virginia: https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0

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Anonymous wrote:Two entirely different schools with almost nothing in common. Of course a kid may like both. My DS thought about applying to VIllanova and would have if he had not gotten into UVA early.

UVA is a much stronger school. I’m from the NY area and Villanova was only well known because if basketball. Those who argue UVA is only regionally known are really not accurate, at least nowadays.

lol. Bullshit. You public school lifers are so deluded.

Villanova graduates have significantly higher earnings. USNWR rankings does not tell the entire story and people should decide based on what they are looking for.