TJ results out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

Ironically, they call it a "holistic" review process while intentionally throwing away relevant information about applying students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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Wows, I wonder what happened last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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Wows, I wonder what happened last year.

That was not last year. DD as a freshman last year and I recall seeing this email string post while we were delivering that spring of 2022 whether to send her or not. It was from the 2021-2022 year.

Moreover Math 4 “normal track” is mainly a sophomore class. “Normal track” for the first batch of new admission system kids would have been Research Statistics and Math 3 freshman year in 2021-2022. That means it was mainly - or at least a very large share - the kids under the last old admissions system class in Math 4 that year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce9c3e5e-6b7e-4005-a69f-b01e0c68c8a1_1600x900.png

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Wows, I wonder what happened last year.

That was not last year. DD as a freshman last year and I recall seeing this email string post while we were delivering that spring of 2022 whether to send her or not. It was from the 2021-2022 year.

Moreover Math 4 “normal track” is mainly a sophomore class. “Normal track” for the first batch of new admission system kids would have been Research Statistics and Math 3 freshman year in 2021-2022. That means it was mainly - or at least a very large share - the kids under the last old admissions system class in Math 4 that year.

I knew that was from 2022. I was wondering if the situation was better in 2023.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

Teacher recs have been proven unreliable and biased. That's why they are no longer used.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce9c3e5e-6b7e-4005-a69f-b01e0c68c8a1_1600x900.png

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Wows, I wonder what happened last year.

The learning loss from the pandemic is still being felt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

Teacher recs have been proven unreliable and biased. That's why they are no longer used.

And yet they're used heavily in the TJ froshmore admissions process. Hmm....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

Teacher recommendations were favorable to advanced students in geometry or Algebra-2 , math counts and other competitive students, and not helping with equity. So, they had to be dropped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

Teacher recs have been proven unreliable and biased. That's why they are no longer used.

And yet they're used heavily in the TJ froshmore admissions process. Hmm....

Because froshman applications and admissions are so miniscule that no one cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

Teacher recs have been proven unreliable and biased. That's why they are no longer used.

And yet they're used heavily in the TJ froshmore admissions process. Hmm....

They should be eliminated since it's well known they are racially biased.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

Teacher recs have been proven unreliable and biased. That's why they are no longer used.

And unverified claims in essays are used as the only reliable unfo for the whole decision making process. Remarkable LMAO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

Teacher recs have been proven unreliable and biased. That's why they are no longer used.

And unverified claims in essays are used as the only reliable unfo for the whole decision making process. Remarkable LMAO

Are you on the admissions committee? Because if so, sounds like you're doing something wrong. Those aren't the criteria at all.

Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

I think this is likely the case at the lower and mid tier MSs. Our base school is a mid tier one that did not use to send hardly anyone to TJ (still only a few as it’s just not that popular a thing here). I think at those schools the math clubs and competitions are less common so kids who apply look more similar - just varying by who did algebra in 7th.

It is at the old TJ feeder schools that do have the math clubs and completions where the new system REALLY needs a way to find the outlier kids and right now it is not doing that it sounds like. I’m on the teacher recc boat of thinking that would help for these schools.

Teacher recs have been proven unreliable and biased. That's why they are no longer used.

And unverified claims in essays are used as the only reliable unfo for the whole decision making process. Remarkable LMAO

Are you on the admissions committee? Because if so, sounds like you're doing something wrong. Those aren't the criteria at all.

Lol

I think you missed the sarcasm LOL. The kids who are good at math and science will mostly like be better in essay writing and everything else. Essays or not doesn't matter. FCPS takes who they want because their goal is to social engineer not to select and develop talents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F994855bb-c9c2-4ec6-ba7e-5bc5dcbc9af3_1600x900.png

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bee7c2c-370c-4007-8964-a445ef304f49_1600x900.png

I have a real hard time believing these poorly written emails actually originated from teachers