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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS got accepted, geometry in 8th, no experience factor, solved the math/science question correctly.


Do they tell you solved correctly? How do kids know how did on it?


It was not a very hard problem. Probably a breeze for those in math counts club at my DD’s school. For reference my DD did not get into the math counts club at her school due to competition.
AMC 8 score 16. So top 25%.
She did not have enough time to complete it. As per her because she had to explain and essay about the problem.
The sob story essays are a big part of being selected.

DD has been selected. Geometry HN
No experience factors. 4 gpa in math and science. South Asian.

My best wishes to all kids worked hard and sure are very talented and didn’t get in.
Also best of luck to those who got in.
I am not a fan of the new process. It’s not transparent.


Agree with you on new process; it is not transparent. The entire “experience factors” criteria should be scrapped.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS got accepted, geometry in 8th, no experience factor, solved the math/science question correctly.


Do they tell you solved correctly? How do kids know how did on it?


It was not a very hard problem. Probably a breeze for those in math counts club at my DD’s school. For reference my DD did not get into the math counts club at her school due to competition.
AMC 8 score 16. So top 25%.
She did not have enough time to complete it. As per her because she had to explain and essay about the problem.
The sob story essays are a big part of being selected.

DD has been selected. Geometry HN
No experience factors. 4 gpa in math and science. South Asian.

My best wishes to all kids worked hard and sure are very talented and didn’t get in.
Also best of luck to those who got in.
I am not a fan of the new process. It’s not transparent.


DS is in.

He agreed with your DD that this year’s problem was not ultimately difficult.

However, he also said the wording was very confusing, and he could see how many kids could have gotten tripped up by the confusing wording.

That should not happen. It would be less likely to happen if there were more than just one question.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS got accepted, geometry in 8th, no experience factor, solved the math/science question correctly.


Do they tell you solved correctly? How do kids know how did on it?


It was not a very hard problem. Probably a breeze for those in math counts club at my DD’s school. For reference my DD did not get into the math counts club at her school due to competition.
AMC 8 score 16. So top 25%.
She did not have enough time to complete it. As per her because she had to explain and essay about the problem.
The sob story essays are a big part of being selected.

DD has been selected. Geometry HN
No experience factors. 4 gpa in math and science. South Asian.

My best wishes to all kids worked hard and sure are very talented and didn’t get in.
Also best of luck to those who got in.
I am not a fan of the new process. It’s not transparent.


DS is in.

He agreed with your DD that this year’s problem was not ultimately difficult.

However, he also said the wording was very confusing, and he could see how many kids could have gotten tripped up by the confusing wording.

That should not happen. It would be less likely to happen if there were more than just one question.


You are complaining that the easy math test was too hard and PP ran out of time and didn't finish? Sounds like it was the right amount of difficulty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS got accepted, geometry in 8th, no experience factor, solved the math/science question correctly.


Do they tell you solved correctly? How do kids know how did on it?


It was not a very hard problem. Probably a breeze for those in math counts club at my DD’s school. For reference my DD did not get into the math counts club at her school due to competition.
AMC 8 score 16. So top 25%.
She did not have enough time to complete it. As per her because she had to explain and essay about the problem.
The sob story essays are a big part of being selected.

DD has been selected. Geometry HN
No experience factors. 4 gpa in math and science. South Asian.

My best wishes to all kids worked hard and sure are very talented and didn’t get in.
Also best of luck to those who got in.
I am not a fan of the new process. It’s not transparent.


DS is in.

He agreed with your DD that this year’s problem was not ultimately difficult.

However, he also said the wording was very confusing, and he could see how many kids could have gotten tripped up by the confusing wording.

That should not happen. It would be less likely to happen if there were more than just one question.


Isn’t that the point? To make it hard enough that it can serve it’s purpose?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS got accepted, geometry in 8th, no experience factor, solved the math/science question correctly.


Do they tell you solved correctly? How do kids know how did on it?


It was not a very hard problem. Probably a breeze for those in math counts club at my DD’s school. For reference my DD did not get into the math counts club at her school due to competition.
AMC 8 score 16. So top 25%.
She did not have enough time to complete it. As per her because she had to explain and essay about the problem.
The sob story essays are a big part of being selected.

DD has been selected. Geometry HN
No experience factors. 4 gpa in math and science. South Asian.

My best wishes to all kids worked hard and sure are very talented and didn’t get in.
Also best of luck to those who got in.
I am not a fan of the new process. It’s not transparent.


DS is in.

He agreed with your DD that this year’s problem was not ultimately difficult.

However, he also said the wording was very confusing, and he could see how many kids could have gotten tripped up by the confusing wording.

That should not happen. It would be less likely to happen if there were more than just one question.


Isn’t that the point? To make it hard enough that it can serve it’s purpose?



Conceptually pretty straightforward problem. But laborious and time consuming due to answer not being whole numbers.
I asked the question from my kid and solved in in like 20 mins. I am a stay at home mom who is not math major.
I am the PP who said that DD couldn’t finish her Math problem essay due shortage of time. But for perspective I have seen my kid solve much more tricky questions with ease. And she could not enter math counts club at her school due to competition.
My kid does well in math and very good at explaining mathematical concepts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS got accepted, geometry in 8th, no experience factor, solved the math/science question correctly.


Do they tell you solved correctly? How do kids know how did on it?


It was not a very hard problem. Probably a breeze for those in math counts club at my DD’s school. For reference my DD did not get into the math counts club at her school due to competition.
AMC 8 score 16. So top 25%.
She did not have enough time to complete it. As per her because she had to explain and essay about the problem.
The sob story essays are a big part of being selected.

DD has been selected. Geometry HN
No experience factors. 4 gpa in math and science. South Asian.

My best wishes to all kids worked hard and sure are very talented and didn’t get in.
Also best of luck to those who got in.
I am not a fan of the new process. It’s not transparent.


DS is in.

He agreed with your DD that this year’s problem was not ultimately difficult.

However, he also said the wording was very confusing, and he could see how many kids could have gotten tripped up by the confusing wording.

That should not happen. It would be less likely to happen if there were more than just one question.


You are complaining that the easy math test was too hard and PP ran out of time and didn't finish? Sounds like it was the right amount of difficulty.


More like a time management thing. Caught up in explaining as you go. Remember it’s an essay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS got accepted, geometry in 8th, no experience factor, solved the math/science question correctly.


Do they tell you solved correctly? How do kids know how did on it?


It was not a very hard problem. Probably a breeze for those in math counts club at my DD’s school. For reference my DD did not get into the math counts club at her school due to competition.
AMC 8 score 16. So top 25%.
She did not have enough time to complete it. As per her because she had to explain and essay about the problem.
The sob story essays are a big part of being selected.

DD has been selected. Geometry HN
No experience factors. 4 gpa in math and science. South Asian.

My best wishes to all kids worked hard and sure are very talented and didn’t get in.
Also best of luck to those who got in.
I am not a fan of the new process. It’s not transparent.


DS is in.

He agreed with your DD that this year’s problem was not ultimately difficult.

However, he also said the wording was very confusing, and he could see how many kids could have gotten tripped up by the confusing wording.

That should not happen. It would be less likely to happen if there were more than just one question.



Agree
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian


Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS got accepted, geometry in 8th, no experience factor, solved the math/science question correctly.


Do they tell you solved correctly? How do kids know how did on it?


It was not a very hard problem. Probably a breeze for those in math counts club at my DD’s school. For reference my DD did not get into the math counts club at her school due to competition.
AMC 8 score 16. So top 25%.
She did not have enough time to complete it. As per her because she had to explain and essay about the problem.
The sob story essays are a big part of being selected.

DD has been selected. Geometry HN
No experience factors. 4 gpa in math and science. South Asian.

My best wishes to all kids worked hard and sure are very talented and didn’t get in.
Also best of luck to those who got in.
I am not a fan of the new process. It’s not transparent.


DS is in.

He agreed with your DD that this year’s problem was not ultimately difficult.

However, he also said the wording was very confusing, and he could see how many kids could have gotten tripped up by the confusing wording.

That should not happen. It would be less likely to happen if there were more than just one question.


You are complaining that the easy math test was too hard and PP ran out of time and didn't finish? Sounds like it was the right amount of difficulty.


More like a time management thing. Caught up in explaining as you go. Remember it’s an essay.


The IAAT is a time management test, as is the Cogat for grades 3 and up.

Your DD was not as fast as all the other kids who were able to fully answer the question in the allotted time. Lucky for her that her other answers were good enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian


Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques


And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian


Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques


And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean retaking those courses in college?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian


Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques


And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?


I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian


Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques


And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?


I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.


^ Overall, I don't think parents are thinking this through or aware of what classes colleges offer or require.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS got accepted, geometry in 8th, no experience factor, solved the math/science question correctly.


Do they tell you solved correctly? How do kids know how did on it?


It was not a very hard problem. Probably a breeze for those in math counts club at my DD’s school. For reference my DD did not get into the math counts club at her school due to competition.
AMC 8 score 16. So top 25%.
She did not have enough time to complete it. As per her because she had to explain and essay about the problem.
The sob story essays are a big part of being selected.

DD has been selected. Geometry HN
No experience factors. 4 gpa in math and science. South Asian.

My best wishes to all kids worked hard and sure are very talented and didn’t get in.
Also best of luck to those who got in.
I am not a fan of the new process. It’s not transparent.


DS is in.

He agreed with your DD that this year’s problem was not ultimately difficult.

However, he also said the wording was very confusing, and he could see how many kids could have gotten tripped up by the confusing wording.

That should not happen. It would be less likely to happen if there were more than just one question.



Agree


I think that question is great, it requires very basic algebra so as not to put disadvantages on students who are not rushing to take high level math class (wink - geometry in the summer). The question also requires thinking, I guess that is what the kids meant by "confusing". It requires careful reading and logical problem solving skills. Good job TJ for this question!

However, I don't know how this question is weighted in the "holistic" admission process. Is it 5%, 25%, 50%, or else? This is the part that TJ admission can be improved.
Anonymous
DS Accepted. GPA 4.2 Asian , Geometry in 8th grade.

Got Math question incorrect but had very detailed explanation of his reasoing to his incorrect math answer.

SPS Essays were really good as per DS.
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