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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

Longfellow actually have the highest acceptance…

In absolute yes, but it's more revealing to look at % accepted by school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a middle ground between requiring 8th grade geometry to apply to TJ and not counting math level at all. Kids should be allowed to apply to TJ with 8th grade Algebra, but only being in Algebra I should be a negative in the application.

What are the chances of 8th grade algebra 1 student being in the top half of the TJ class?

That's too data centric of a question, not sure if a FOIA would be able to get you this.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know this kid but he might have bombed the essays.

And it just happens that TJ's attrition rate has increased 10x despite the new Algebra review sessions and new no-fail policy for freshmen.

This is completely false. In a typical year pre-covid, you would see attrition of 25-35 students in each freshmen class. It's essentially the same under the new admissions policy.

You're just wrong. On average, there was 1 freshman goes back to base school each year pre-covid. Now, it's 15-20 a year.

No, you're just wrong. The admissions office has been admitting 15-20 froshmores per year for over a decade. Do you think the class size was increasing year over year?

Check your facts.

More like 40-50

OMG. Can you guys stop talking about kids who are unprepared for this school? This is not the case at most middle schools. At many AAP schools there are at least three times the amount of kids that can handle TJ workload that don't get in. Maybe more. If some kids struggle at TJ because of this 1.5 percent allowance for each school, so be it if they want to go. It's still a worthwhile experience for them and they have the option to return. If TJ and TJ interested parents are really that worried about other kids not making it in they can always increase their enrollment or start mini LLIV TJs at the high schools.

Most of the kids getting into TJ came from school that sent 10 or fewer students. So a lot of them were chosen to fulfill the quota. There is a good chance that they are not prepared.

What is happening here is that people realized that tjhsst provides a reptational benefit and that benefit is not being evenly distributed across races so they are trying to distribute that benefit across races.
They are trying to appropriate the benefits of a reputation that was built on merit and distribute it based on race.

If you want equity, it has to start a lot sooner, high school is too late. Start with equity in the aap programs that way you will have more urm kids that have the academic background to excel.

There is also a high level of randomness in the admissions of students from schools like Longfellow, Carson, Frost, ...

Yep, my kid got in but his friend who is objectively got an exceptional math brain got waitlisted. It seems unjust.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know this kid but he might have bombed the essays.

And it just happens that TJ's attrition rate has increased 10x despite the new Algebra review sessions and new no-fail policy for freshmen.

This is completely false. In a typical year pre-covid, you would see attrition of 25-35 students in each freshmen class. It's essentially the same under the new admissions policy.

You're just wrong. On average, there was 1 freshman goes back to base school each year pre-covid. Now, it's 15-20 a year.

No, you're just wrong. The admissions office has been admitting 15-20 froshmores per year for over a decade. Do you think the class size was increasing year over year?

Check your facts.

More like 40-50

OMG. Can you guys stop talking about kids who are unprepared for this school? This is not the case at most middle schools. At many AAP schools there are at least three times the amount of kids that can handle TJ workload that don't get in. Maybe more. If some kids struggle at TJ because of this 1.5 percent allowance for each school, so be it if they want to go. It's still a worthwhile experience for them and they have the option to return. If TJ and TJ interested parents are really that worried about other kids not making it in they can always increase their enrollment or start mini LLIV TJs at the high schools.

Most of the kids getting into TJ came from school that sent 10 or fewer students. So a lot of them were chosen to fulfill the quota. There is a good chance that they are not prepared.

What is happening here is that people realized that tjhsst provides a reptational benefit and that benefit is not being evenly distributed across races so they are trying to distribute that benefit across races.
They are trying to appropriate the benefits of a reputation that was built on merit and distribute it based on race.

If you want equity, it has to start a lot sooner, high school is too late. Start with equity in the aap programs that way you will have more urm kids that have the academic background to excel.

There is also a high level of randomness in the admissions of students from schools like Longfellow, Carson, Frost, ...

Yep, my kid got in but his friend who is objectively got an exceptional math brain got waitlisted. It seems unjust.

Same, my kid's school is in that list. 4-5 highly motivated kids who are taking very advanced math courses or excel in science competitions, were waitlisted. Same number of kids who only have Alg 1 and didn't really care of TJ were admitted. I don't even think what they put in their essays that matters.

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The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

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How long after acceptance of the offer should we expect to hear further from TJ?

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Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

Good for your kid and his/her friends. My applicants in my kid's school are angry. They understand the 1.5 percent allocation. They don't understand the randomness/unfairness after it.

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Anonymous wrote:The per school quota would be fine if it was something like scores of 860'1000 getting the quota seats while top schools had 100 kids and 50-100 score from just a little higher and all the kids are about equally capable.
Instead you have even within the top schools the top kids are not taken. It remains to be seen how the quota kids will do.

At my kid's school, those inexplainable decisions negatively affect all students. Those top performing kids are not only doing great in class but also respected by their friends for club and extra activities. Taking average and below average applicants over these top performers makes everyone question the fairness of the system. Now try to explain equity to 14 year old kids.

At my kid’s school, the students who get accepted mostly as predicted, they are mostly the top students, there are few outliers but it is not a shocking as they are also smart students. There are also top students who wait listed.
Before the acceptance announcement my kid (and his circle of friends) well aware that nothing guarantee to get accepted, everybody think everybody will get in but him/herself and they also understand that it is not enough seats for everyone.

Good for your kid and his/her friends. My applicants in my kid's school are angry. They understand the 1.5 percent allocation. They don't understand the randomness/unfairness after it.

Then they will really hate college admissions.

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Accept the results. It is what it is. Not every valedictorian gets accepted to Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:Accept the results. It is what it is. Not every valedictorian gets accepted to Harvard.

And, that's what you said when your family told you how much they were disappointed in you LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Accept the results. It is what it is. Not every valedictorian gets accepted to Harvard.

Always easy to ask other kids to accept the results when your kid benefited from the new admissions. Let's wait to the fall and see who will have the last laugh

[Anonymous]

I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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I am sure if the new admissions has been as successful as they claimed, TJ teachers would not have to send out emails like this

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