23% of GEN Z identify as Lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans or other

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Anonymous wrote:23% of GEN Z identify as Lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans or other
9.8% Of Millennials
4.5 OF GEN X
2.3 Baby Boomers
1.1 Silet Gen..

Thoughts?

Across the animal world there are dozens upon dozens of species which exhibit same sex sexual behavior as well as opposite sex sexual behavior.

I believe that the rate of sexually diverse attraction in humans has always been substantial, but that repression in society and families due to religious beliefs has kept people from engaging in/expressing it openly.

I know some Xers and Boomers that think that everyone has same-sex fantasies in addition to heterosexual ones. Every man sometimes thinks about giving another man head for example. Totally normal of all heterosexual men. A lot of people in older generations are bisexual but don't really recognize it as such. The more religious people think it's something that god gave them to struggle with or some such nonsense belief instead of just a normal variation of human sexuality.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that sexual orientation and gender identity should be separated. These are not the same for the older generations

They have blurred for he younger generations where playing around with both is now the norm and you can be multiple different sexual orientations and 5 different gender identities over the course of a few years.

When I was younger there was this big focus on sexual orientation can not be changed, you are who you are, you don't get to choose...and now it that is gone and you can change your sexual orientation as often as you want.

However I think this is generational like everything else. The big hot topic of each generation leads to positive changes in future generations. Once everyone is LGBTQ+, it will move on as then no one is unique and it isn't interesting to define yourself that way anymore. Then we will see the % drop back to a realistic number and the next thing will be the craze.

I'm Gen-X and the bolded is the part I have a problem with/can't accept because of how our generation was taught/it goes against my beliefs.

I was taught and do believe that gay people are born gay. It's just part of their biological makeup just the way being straight is part of other's biological makeup. Reading a book did not make these people gay, watching certain movies did not make them gay, being around gay people did not make them gay. Nothing made them gay, it's just the way they were born.

Just like conversion therapy doesn't work because how can you change what is part of your biological makeup? You may beat into submission the gay kids but please no conversion therapy! You can't change these kids! It's the way they were born!

Now this generation believes you can change your sexual orientation as often as you want...like I said, that goes against what I believe and what we were taught that sexual orientation is something you were just born with and it is part of your biology. If we are now saying it can be changed, isn't that giving ammunition to groups who believe conversion therapy can work? Well, if they chose their sexual orientation we can make them go to conversion therapy so they can choose to be straight. Or if they choose their sexual orientation, we can limit books/movies/bad social influences who make them choose to be gay.

I don't believe in choice in this matter.

As far as more and more girls identifying as queer...teenage girls have always been touchy feely. That is fine. I think what's also happening is there is now more lack of social skills between sexes? Some girls aren't finding boys for whatever reason - the boys lack the social skills the girls would want in a guy, the girls also lack social skills to be with guys. So what they do is they turn to friends and just be touchy feely with them.

i’m gen Z and i agree

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I don't believe it. They are showing their support. They want to show support for that community. People hate surveys. They mess with them all the time, for their own reasons -

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Anonymous wrote:Aesthetic, indeed. I would put the number at around 40-45% of my kid's college.

Also, some in the gay community believe that "T" shouldn't be on the same rainbow as LGB. Gender and sexuality are very different. Who I am v. who attracts me? Also, some gay friends believe that the T activists are defiling the alphabet rainbow with their extremism.

which college? My 6th grader will want to go

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Anonymous wrote:It was lesbians who first identified just how misogynist a lot of drag is, way back in the 1970s.

And most trans men leave the lesbian community or are straight up kicked out once they start passing. They go stealth and marry straight women.

Trans men aren't women, why would they be in the lesbian community? They're not lesbians.

I agree, they shouldn't be part of the lesbian community. They're straight men.

Trans men aren't straight men
Trans women aren't lesbian women

Trans men aren't really lesbians either
Trans women aren't really gay men either

So let's say you're a man and you date a transgender woman. Are you a gay man or a straight man? If you're a man and you date a transgender man, are you a gay man or a straight man? Same thing for a woman that would date a trans man or a trans woman.

In your view, is a person that dates a trans person both straight and gay?

This is why all the kids identify as pan and just say they’ll take it on a case by case basis spending on the individual.

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Anonymous wrote:It was lesbians who first identified just how misogynist a lot of drag is, way back in the 1970s.

And most trans men leave the lesbian community or are straight up kicked out once they start passing. They go stealth and marry straight women.

Trans men aren't women, why would they be in the lesbian community? They're not lesbians.

I agree, they shouldn't be part of the lesbian community. They're straight men.

Trans men aren't straight men
Trans women aren't lesbian women

Trans men aren't really lesbians either
Trans women aren't really gay men either

So let's say you're a man and you date a transgender woman. Are you a gay man or a straight man? If you're a man and you date a transgender man, are you a gay man or a straight man? Same thing for a woman that would date a trans man or a trans woman.

In your view, is a person that dates a trans person both straight and gay?

There's really not a name for it, is there? I'm sure a name will appear in the near future. If I am a cis man and I am dating a transgender woman - if I attempt to have sexual relations (kissing, fondling, intercourse) with my transgender woman date, get aroused by the sexual relations and would be willing to continue having sexual relations because I liked it...I wouldn't be 100% straight man, would I? If a person with a penis has sex with another person with a penis...that's gay.

Now the whole transgender thing throws everything for a loop. A gay man probably wouldn't get past the fact that they are outwardly dating a "woman". Honestly, I'd just say I have a kink. A man who dates a transgender woman has a kink.

Likewise, if I were a man who dated a person with a vagina, had intercourse with said person and liked it...could I really be a gay man? Bisexual at best but not 100% gay.

Any person who dates a transgender probably just has a kink.

I know at least a few FTM or nonbinary trans people that just seem to me like what most lesbians looked like in the early 1990s (ie women who wore non gendered or some men’s clothing, didn’t wear makeup, short hair, etc.). My daughter who is bi has dated trans people that look like this and it doesn’t seem to me any different than all the bi girls I knew in the 80: and 90s.

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Anonymous wrote:It was lesbians who first identified just how misogynist a lot of drag is, way back in the 1970s.

And most trans men leave the lesbian community or are straight up kicked out once they start passing. They go stealth and marry straight women.

Trans men aren't women, why would they be in the lesbian community? They're not lesbians.

I agree, they shouldn't be part of the lesbian community. They're straight men.

Trans men aren't straight men
Trans women aren't lesbian women

Trans men aren't really lesbians either
Trans women aren't really gay men either

So let's say you're a man and you date a transgender woman. Are you a gay man or a straight man? If you're a man and you date a transgender man, are you a gay man or a straight man? Same thing for a woman that would date a trans man or a trans woman.

In your view, is a person that dates a trans person both straight and gay?

There's really not a name for it, is there? I'm sure a name will appear in the near future. If I am a cis man and I am dating a transgender woman - if I attempt to have sexual relations (kissing, fondling, intercourse) with my transgender woman date, get aroused by the sexual relations and would be willing to continue having sexual relations because I liked it...I wouldn't be 100% straight man, would I? If a person with a penis has sex with another person with a penis...that's gay.

Now the whole transgender thing throws everything for a loop. A gay man probably wouldn't get past the fact that they are outwardly dating a "woman". Honestly, I'd just say I have a kink. A man who dates a transgender woman has a kink.

Likewise, if I were a man who dated a person with a vagina, had intercourse with said person and liked it...could I really be a gay man? Bisexual at best but not 100% gay.

Any person who dates a transgender probably just has a kink.

I know at least a few FTM or nonbinary trans people that just seem to me like what most lesbians looked like in the early 1990s (ie women who wore non gendered or some men’s clothing, didn’t wear makeup, short hair, etc.). My daughter who is bi has dated trans people that look like this and it doesn’t seem to me any different than all the bi girls I knew in the 80: and 90s.

Are you saying that you see pre-transition trans men and think that they look like butch lesbians?

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I'm a gay and I think there is definitely an environmental or cultural component to this trend. A purely biological genetic "born this way" explanation cannot explain a 20x difference in LGBTQIA+ orientation over a few generations. For identical twins, the concordance rate for same sex-attraction is only around 50%. This trend is likely a combination of factors. Part of this is increasing tolerance, but there is also something else going on that is unrelated to society being more tolerant. I don't know what the expiation is but this is something that needs to be researched more.

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I'm team "it's just more accepted now." I am a cis woman in my mid 30s and heteroromantic, but I enjoy having sex with women and am attracted to them. I didn't identify as bi until a few years ago because I felt like I didn't "qualify" since I am heteroromantic and have never been in a relationship with a woman. But I do identify as bi now because I feel like it is more accepted that there is a spectrum of bi-ness and I wouldn't want someone to assume that I am only attracted to men.