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[Post New]03/24/2015 14:48
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:White privilege and entitlement.
Modern day slavery legalized, glamorized, and justified.
You disgust me.

I don't think you understand what slavery means...I'll give you a hint. It's an arrangement in which a slave has no choice. Not an arrangement where someone is asking to have a job.

You actually don't have a clue about modern day slavery.
[Post New]03/24/2015 14:50
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, there are many ways to look at this. For an American, this would probably be unthinkable. For many other cultures, a parent's temporary absence is acceptable and normal if other family members are on hand to step in. In fact, my mom took care of her granddaughter, my niece, for three years while her mom was out working. I'm sure your nanny is doing it for her children's benefit.

Think about it this way: if you decide not to bring her with you, it's not like she and her kids would be better off. She probably will have a hard time finding a good employer. So who wins?

After you read "Global Woman" you'll change your tune.
[Post New]03/24/2015 15:00
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Anonymous
This is the OP... Wow, I didn't expect some of the reactions here, especially not being accused of modern slavery. I am genuinely coming from a good place and do not want to exploit anyone and never would. This nanny is very dear to me (and dare I say, we are to her as well).

I hadn't considered the option of bring her with us (because of the kids) until she asked me if she could come when I informed her we would be moving. While my initial reaction was no, I then started thinking whether I am really the one who should be making these decisions for her and am I discriminating against her if I don't give her the job. I know she will be very upset if we get someone else instead, but at the same time I have a hard time being the reason she would move away from her kids. I want to add that I have told her that if she doesn't come with us we want to pay for her kids' schooling so that she will still have a better financial situation back home regardless of whether she moves or not.
[Post New]03/24/2015 15:16
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Anonymous
I cannot believe the turn this took! Wow. There are a lot of nannies out there that are separated from their families and home country. It is not slavery. If fact, if you travel the world, you will see that this is truly a globally economy. People have moved all over the world to find work and find better lives for thier families. IF you nanny can create a better life and provide for her children, you should take her with you!!
[Post New]03/24/2015 16:02
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Anonymous
Go for it OP.

If you ran your life according to the opinions of DCUM you'd never be able to make a decision about anything and you'd feel utterly worthless about everything.

Sounds like your fabulous nanny wants to seize this opportunity, and you'd love to have her and also help her.

Go for it.
[Post New]03/24/2015 16:10
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nannydebsays

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Have you investigated the legalities of having your current nanny immigrate to the US? What sort of costs, fees, and paperwork are you facing?

I ask because AP's have to enter the US through a state department program, and because I have been told several times that if there is someone who is a US citizen who is capable of doing a specific job, then no one is allowed to immigrate here to take that job. IOW, since there are tens of thousands of people already living in the US who could be your nanny, you can't import someone for that job.

Of course, if you are diplomatic corps, I guess things might be run differently?
[Post New]03/24/2015 16:13
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Anonymous
Didn't most of the African slaves come with their kids, or were they separated to?
[Post New]03/24/2015 16:32
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Anonymous
nannydebsays wrote:Have you investigated the legalities of having your current nanny immigrate to the US? What sort of costs, fees, and paperwork are you facing?

I ask because AP's have to enter the US through a state department program, and because I have been told several times that if there is someone who is a US citizen who is capable of doing a specific job, then no one is allowed to immigrate here to take that job. IOW, since there are tens of thousands of people already living in the US who could be your nanny, you can't import someone for that job.

Of course, if you are diplomatic corps, I guess things might be run differently?


Yes, all of this is sorted and there are set procedures to follow.
[Post New]03/24/2015 16:34
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Anonymous wrote:Didn't most of the African slaves come with their kids, or were they separated to?


OP here. I don't know if you are the same poster that keeps throwing out the slavery card, but you still haven't explained why you think this is slavery.
[Post New]03/24/2015 17:22
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, there are many ways to look at this. For an American, this would probably be unthinkable. For many other cultures, a parent's temporary absence is acceptable and normal if other family members are on hand to step in. In fact, my mom took care of her granddaughter, my niece, for three years while her mom was out working. I'm sure your nanny is doing it for her children's benefit.

Think about it this way: if you decide not to bring her with you, it's not like she and her kids would be better off. She probably will have a hard time finding a good employer. So who wins?

After you read "Global Woman" you'll change your tune.

I don't need to read this. I AM a global woman. You're simply incapable of looking at the world outside of your lens.
[Post New]03/24/2015 17:22
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:White privilege and entitlement.
Modern day slavery legalized, glamorized, and justified.
You disgust me.

I don't think you understand what slavery means...I'll give you a hint. It's an arrangement in which a slave has no choice. Not an arrangement where someone is asking to have a job.

Many slaves ask and have asked to stay on with their owners.
[Post New]03/24/2015 17:27
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, there are many ways to look at this. For an American, this would probably be unthinkable. For many other cultures, a parent's temporary absence is acceptable and normal if other family members are on hand to step in. In fact, my mom took care of her granddaughter, my niece, for three years while her mom was out working. I'm sure your nanny is doing it for her children's benefit.

Think about it this way: if you decide not to bring her with you, it's not like she and her kids would be better off. She probably will have a hard time finding a good employer. So who wins?

After you read "Global Woman" you'll change your tune.

I don't need to read this. I AM a global woman. You're simply incapable of looking at the world outside of your lens.


Excellent as a citizen of the world you should understand free choice versus a force decision.
[Post New]03/24/2015 17:29
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Those of you condemning the OP have a very ethnocentric view of this. There are very different cultural approaches to these issues around the globe.

If this mother (the nanny, not the OP) thinks the best way she can serve her family is to pursue some financial opportunities it is not our place to condemn her employer who is offering that opportunity.



It's interesting that you view those who frown on this as being ethnocentric it's your likely European or American privilege that allows you to think this way and the European and American impact on societies and economies abroad that have created this problem for the mother.
[Post New]03/24/2015 17:30
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:White privilege and entitlement.
Modern day slavery legalized, glamorized, and justified.
You disgust me.

I don't think you understand what slavery means...I'll give you a hint. It's an arrangement in which a slave has no choice. Not an arrangement where someone is asking to have a job.

You actually don't have a clue about modern day slavery.


Ignorance is bliss for some.
[Post New]03/24/2015 17:33
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Anonymous
I understand that this is common in some areas of the world.
I understand that this might be an opportunity for mom to help her children and herself start a better life. Might be.
But, I just wouldn't feel good about it.
Is there a way you can help her find work there with someone trusted that needs a nanny?
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