INA Certification Program Email

[Anonymous]

3/23/16 @ 8:04 poster here. Just to clarify, I am a nanny. Former INA member, past organizer of groups, not an agency owner, just someone who knows how hard it actually is to get group members to fully commit to anything.

I think starting an organization exclusively for nannies is an awesome idea, and I look forward to joining once all those nannies who despise, dislike, or don't give a flip about INA get this organization up and running.

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[Anonymous]

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Here is the problem Courtney and Marsia, many on here are not happy as they are stating of the the control agencies have of the INA. Perhaps INA was formed as Marcia said by nannies, agencies and educators and became the umbrella of the industry. Where I think things should have changed with the INA is when agencies and educators decided they wanted their own thing. Why cant the agencies now step down and let nannies run the INA? Everyone is invited to INA conferences but with APNA no nannies allowed. Nanny Palozza and NNTD was formed by nannies for nannies and agencies can attend these as well as educators, these two bodies did not break from INA.

IMO I think INA would have more respect from nannies if at least only nannies comprise the board and nannies voted for this. Let APNA do their thing and let INA do theirs, or ask APNA to allow nannies on their board.

I can't speak for the INA, but the facts are that in any large organization, about 10% of members are actively involved, and about 1% are willing to take on any actual responsibility. So before the agencies can be kicked off the board, someone needs to find a bunch of nannies who also have business experience and experience running a non-profit. Or a bunch of nannies willing to learn how to make a non-profit organization run. Or even just nannies willing to commit to being a board member for a year, as long as they aren't expected to do much.

So those of you here who are angry about agency involvement in the INA, feel free to step up and tell us who you are and when you plan to run to be an INA board member.

Anyone?

<crickets>

Please take note, people. The above poster is a perfect example of what another poster called the "superior" attitude of INA agencies. They need to get off the INA board if INA is to become a successful nanny association. This is very clear.

Exactly!


Many nannies have a college education and would be very capable of running INA without agencies. Nannies are dedicated and work far more hours than agencies. MY guess is nannies are not stepping up because of the way some agencies look down on them as example above the PP, nannies are not looking to mingle with these people.

This poster is 100% right. Take the INA's legislative committee as your prime example of how nannies are not allowed to advocate for nannies, which of course would result in better care for children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:3/23/16 @ 8:04 poster here. Just to clarify, I am a nanny. Former INA member, past organizer of groups, not an agency owner, just someone who knows how hard it actually is to get group members to fully commit to anything.

I think starting an organization exclusively for nannies is an awesome idea, and I look forward to joining once all those nannies who despise, dislike, or don't give a flip about INA get this organization up and running.

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We simply want INA to return to its former glory, and be The International Nanny Association. Trying to be all things to all people, never ever works. Never.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Here is the problem Courtney and Marsia, many on here are not happy as they are stating of the the control agencies have of the INA. Perhaps INA was formed as Marcia said by nannies, agencies and educators and became the umbrella of the industry. Where I think things should have changed with the INA is when agencies and educators decided they wanted their own thing. Why cant the agencies now step down and let nannies run the INA? Everyone is invited to INA conferences but with APNA no nannies allowed. Nanny Palozza and NNTD was formed by nannies for nannies and agencies can attend these as well as educators, these two bodies did not break from INA.

IMO I think INA would have more respect from nannies if at least only nannies comprise the board and nannies voted for this. Let APNA do their thing and let INA do theirs, or ask APNA to allow nannies on their board.

I can't speak for the INA, but the facts are that in any large organization, about 10% of members are actively involved, and about 1% are willing to take on any actual responsibility. So before the agencies can be kicked off the board, someone needs to find a bunch of nannies who also have business experience and experience running a non-profit. Or a bunch of nannies willing to learn how to make a non-profit organization run. Or even just nannies willing to commit to being a board member for a year, as long as they aren't expected to do much.

So those of you here who are angry about agency involvement in the INA, feel free to step up and tell us who you are and when you plan to run to be an INA board member.

Anyone?

<crickets>

Please take note, people. The above poster is a perfect example of what another poster called the "superior" attitude of INA agencies. They need to get off the INA board if INA is to become a successful nanny association. This is very clear.

Exactly!


Many nannies have a college education and would be very capable of running INA without agencies. Nannies are dedicated and work far more hours than agencies. MY guess is nannies are not stepping up because of the way some agencies look down on them as example above the PP, nannies are not looking to mingle with these people.

Marcia and Courtney were probably told not to post anything else here.

So odd how they stopped posting. I'm thinking there's some embarrassment about the direction INA has taken and the overall dishonesty about its mission.

[Anonymous]

I've watched and been doing a lot of on this thread. Then I got an email that says the INA's annual conference (in Reston VA) sold out this year, and they had to stop registration early. I guess success IS the best revenge!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've watched and been doing a lot of on this thread. Then I got an email that says the INA's annual conference (in Reston VA) sold out this year, and they had to stop registration early. I guess success IS the best revenge!

No, they're still looking for people to come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've watched and been doing a lot of on this thread. Then I got an email that says the INA's annual conference (in Reston VA) sold out this year, and they had to stop registration early. I guess success IS the best revenge!

No that is a sales strategy post, you can still register

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've watched and been doing a lot of on this thread. Then I got an email that says the INA's annual conference (in Reston VA) sold out this year, and they had to stop registration early. I guess success IS the best revenge!

No that is a sales strategy post, you can still register

if it is sold out, think about it, the overrun of agencies are taking the place of nannies that may have wanted to go, Nannies cannot go to the APNA conferences

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've watched and been doing a lot of on this thread. Then I got an email that says the INA's annual conference (in Reston VA) sold out this year, and they had to stop registration early. I guess success IS the best revenge!

Yep the agencies are being successful in overrunning the INA, take a look at the new board member from an agency in Arizona

Congratulations International Nanny Agencys

[Anonymous]

INA nanny membership is plummeting. It's a "nanny industry" marketing goldmine for agencies and related outfits. They know nothing about childhood development or how to encourage any sense of stability of care for children. That would be contrary to their business goals.

The heavy weight Wendy Sachs is a Warton MBA. $$$$$$$$$$ is the name of their game, not the children. The more othen you need another nanny, the more successful they are. Their business model is working very well. For them. Not for the parents. Not for the nannies. And certainly not for the children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you interested in an INA Accredited Certification Program?


Over the last ten years, many caregivers and training programs have shared concerns that there is no accredited Nanny or NCS Certification in the United States. Professionals all over the country (and beyond) have asked why the INA hasn’t developed a program for certification. After all, we are the umbrella association and strive to lead the way for the nanny and newborn care industry. We share your concerns and want to be able to provide a legitimate, respected, and accredited certification program. The executive board has been hard at work researching the right way to go about this. We want to share the process with you and get your feedback about what is important to our membership, as well as the in-home childcare community at large.

Having a program accredited will take a tremendous amount of volunteer time and energy, and it is a huge financial investment. It can cost between $70,000 to $200,000 to create just one or two certification programs, and do so correctly. We understand there is a need and desire to see this happen, and as a longtime leader in the in-home childcare industry, we believe we are in a unique position to develop it. In order to consider a project of this magnitude, we need to understand how many people would invest in this program and what expectations they have.

Nannies, NCS, and other care providers, please help the industry and take a few minutes to complete this survey and distribute it to everyone you know. Encourage your colleagues by letting them know the feedback we receive from this survey will directly impact the decisions the INA Board of Directors makes about an Accredited Certification Program in the future.

Placement agencies, please take a moment to share the Family Survey with your clients. It is vital that we understand how important a program like this would be to parents. Please also share the Caregiver Survey with the nannies and newborn care professionals in your database. You can include the information in this letter to better explain our position. We need this information to move forward.

Thank you for your help. If you would like to understand more about the differences between a certification program (accredited and non) and a certificate program, or how INA plans to become accredited, please check out our blog post on the subject.
Survey submissions deadline is Sunday, March 20th.
Cortney Gibson - President
Marcia Hall - Vice President

Nanny/NCS link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuKeoLeKzi6bDp0LvksCeI-2Fw-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jteSlaajZ3YqvbS3fiDuFvG8Ch6RHosLoJxH5woJX4oIx-2B82J2iFppW0dZ0A-2BQsKH2v3qWnm3sMxzg2JwxYdXH8oeaN9qe-2FdPDqfk7OfpKTmYy-2F2TIbhPTwJ5sQQbUSAGH1QFx3AwjmgObqHaUDl-2BzY-3D

Family link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuXupl4tiPj8gLsO8qDZQTAQ-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jjUxf3VDwtXI02TepDWrcl6dk2c545eW7jGe7E2BQMpPtZ8NPX0950SgFIUNAb2hsC8-2Fo-2BNz7lYwLTRmAD0KUe-2BjH8dRyb-2BIWEaM-2BNM7584mB2qDh82CUURQcJPOM9t2cgrMDdgQKJhtjuIBFpPMyUw-3D

How can INA say they "share our concerns" and they want to be an "umbrella" organization, yet they absolutely refuse to advocate for basic employment rights like OT for live-in nannies? They even have a legislative affairs committee that does absolutely nothing. Not one thing. The nannies are not allowed to advocate for nannies.

How can INA hope to be an "umbrella" organization?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:INA should really step-up and actively advocate for better care for children in their homes. Part of this demands that INA take a stand for legally mandated nanny protections. So called domestic service workers are the only workers in America that I know of, who have no protections in place and no where to report abusive employers or nanny agencies. INA has become well-known to always push an agenda that increases the profits of unscrupulous nanny agency owners and other business owners who have controlled this industry group.

Please explain how many actual nanny members you currently have vs. how many business owners. Parent members are a tiny percent of your membership, from what I understand.

.....Whatever happened with OP's email survey?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you interested in an INA Accredited Certification Program?


Over the last ten years, many caregivers and training programs have shared concerns that there is no accredited Nanny or NCS Certification in the United States. Professionals all over the country (and beyond) have asked why the INA hasn’t developed a program for certification. After all, we are the umbrella association and strive to lead the way for the nanny and newborn care industry. We share your concerns and want to be able to provide a legitimate, respected, and accredited certification program. The executive board has been hard at work researching the right way to go about this. We want to share the process with you and get your feedback about what is important to our membership, as well as the in-home childcare community at large.

Having a program accredited will take a tremendous amount of volunteer time and energy, and it is a huge financial investment. It can cost between $70,000 to $200,000 to create just one or two certification programs, and do so correctly. We understand there is a need and desire to see this happen, and as a longtime leader in the in-home childcare industry, we believe we are in a unique position to develop it. In order to consider a project of this magnitude, we need to understand how many people would invest in this program and what expectations they have.

Nannies, NCS, and other care providers, please help the industry and take a few minutes to complete this survey and distribute it to everyone you know. Encourage your colleagues by letting them know the feedback we receive from this survey will directly impact the decisions the INA Board of Directors makes about an Accredited Certification Program in the future.

Placement agencies, please take a moment to share the Family Survey with your clients. It is vital that we understand how important a program like this would be to parents. Please also share the Caregiver Survey with the nannies and newborn care professionals in your database. You can include the information in this letter to better explain our position. We need this information to move forward.

Thank you for your help. If you would like to understand more about the differences between a certification program (accredited and non) and a certificate program, or how INA plans to become accredited, please check out our blog post on the subject.
Survey submissions deadline is Sunday, March 20th.
Cortney Gibson - President
Marcia Hall - Vice President

Nanny/NCS link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuKeoLeKzi6bDp0LvksCeI-2Fw-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jteSlaajZ3YqvbS3fiDuFvG8Ch6RHosLoJxH5woJX4oIx-2B82J2iFppW0dZ0A-2BQsKH2v3qWnm3sMxzg2JwxYdXH8oeaN9qe-2FdPDqfk7OfpKTmYy-2F2TIbhPTwJ5sQQbUSAGH1QFx3AwjmgObqHaUDl-2BzY-3D

Family link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuXupl4tiPj8gLsO8qDZQTAQ-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jjUxf3VDwtXI02TepDWrcl6dk2c545eW7jGe7E2BQMpPtZ8NPX0950SgFIUNAb2hsC8-2Fo-2BNz7lYwLTRmAD0KUe-2BjH8dRyb-2BIWEaM-2BNM7584mB2qDh82CUURQcJPOM9t2cgrMDdgQKJhtjuIBFpPMyUw-3D

How can INA say they "share our concerns" and they want to be an "umbrella" organization, yet they absolutely refuse to advocate for basic employment rights like OT for live-in nannies? T even have a legislative affairs committee that does absolutely nothing. Not one thing. The nannies are not allowed to advocate for nannies.

How can INA hope to be an "umbrella" organization?

http://nanny.org/resources/nannies/employment-rights-of-nannies/

[Anonymous]

Can someone please list what employment rights for nannies is INA willing to lobby for?

Does their legislative committee need more help from nannies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please list what employment rights for nannies is INA willing to lobby for?

Does their legislative committee need more help from nannies?

What would they allow nannies to lobby for? Tons of nannies in the DC area could easily get involved on Capitol Hill.