INA Certification Program Email

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be thrilled to see a true certification program, but that would need to involve classes, hands-on training, and ideally a mentorship program similar to student teaching, not just an exam.

OP here. I received the email earlier and pasted it over, but my thought is much like yours. On one hand, there's only so much you can learn from a book, and experience will be a much better teacher for most people. On the other hand, there are tons of issues that can arise over the course of employment with a family, and there are some things that it's best to learn from a book before trying to implement (especially with children).

You guys don't even know what the credential process will even ultimately look like. This is simply a survey from the INA to guage interest before they invest money in the process to design such a credential and the process to get it accredited.


Nothing wrong with education in anything but OP what I do not like is trying to sale an exam, giving those taking it the impression that they will make more money by having a credential, OP you and I both know this is not true. There is a whole sales pitch on this from the INA and is misleading.

[Anonymous]

This board is full of INA haters, so don't feel bad OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be thrilled to see a true certification program, but that would need to involve classes, hands-on training, and ideally a mentorship program similar to student teaching, not just an exam.

OP here. I received the email earlier and pasted it over, but my thought is much like yours. On one hand, there's only so much you can learn from a book, and experience will be a much better teacher for most people. On the other hand, there are tons of issues that can arise over the course of employment with a family, and there are some things that it's best to learn from a book before trying to implement (especially with children).

Who exactly is responsible for writing up this test? Who wrote up the study materials? If your answer is some INA committee, please list their names and experience with early childhood development. Thank you very much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This board is full of INA haters, so don't feel bad OP.

Then again some of the negative reviews of the INA may have a point. INA use to be about supporting fellow nannies. Wonder why online services attract even elite nannies? Perhaps nannies have gotten tired of being products sold by the INA supported agencies, we have found we are able to get excellent positions on our own. Many of us excellent nannies do not want INA becoming the industry police. Many of us nannies do our job for the love of children and do not need to be Nanny of the year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This board is full of INA haters, so don't feel bad OP.

Then again some of the negative reviews of the INA may have a point. INA use to be about supporting fellow nannies. Wonder why online services attract even elite nannies? Perhaps nannies have gotten tired of being products sold by the INA supported agencies, we have found we are able to get excellent positions on our own. Many of us excellent nannies do not want INA becoming the industry police. Many of us nannies do our job for the love of children and do not need to be Nanny of the year.

Agree. I got tired of the "elite" agencies telling me my rates were too high. They wanted me, but for wages far below what I normally earn. I no longer waste time talking to any of them. I can earn my regular rates without them.

Most of them do nothing to earn their outrageous fees. Nothing of value for the parents or the nannies. Nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This board is full of INA haters, so don't feel bad OP.

Then again some of the negative reviews of the INA may have a point. INA use to be about supporting fellow nannies. Wonder why online services attract even elite nannies? Perhaps nannies have gotten tired of being products sold by the INA supported agencies, we have found we are able to get excellent positions on our own. Many of us excellent nannies do not want INA becoming the industry police. Many of us nannies do our job for the love of children and do not need to be Nanny of the year.

Agree. I got tired of the "elite" agencies telling me my rates were too high. They wanted me, but for wages far below what I normally earn. I no longer waste time talking to any of them. I can earn my regular rates without them.

Most of them do nothing to earn their outrageous fees. Nothing of value for the parents or the nannies. Nothing.

Whenever I see these threads I always wonder if the people commenting have actually participated in INA? Have you attended a conference? Got to know the people involved? If the answer is yes, then I respect your opinion. Unfortunately I've met several nannies who have no experience with INA but base their opinions off of what they have read online or heard.

There are a lot of bad agencies out there, but there are also some gems. In my opinion the best ones in the country are several of ones I've met and networked with at INA. There are some who actually do work and earn their fees. Mahler Private Staffing, British American, Stanford Park Nannies are my favorites.

I agree that everyone should utilize every resource available in their job searches including online sources like Care. Don't fool yourself and think that the top jobs are available without agencies though. Marissa Mayer, Mark Zuckerberg and Justin Timberlake are never going to search for a nanny on Care.com. They are all using some of the top agencies right now in their nanny search.

[Anonymous]

Yes I have attended an INA conference and when INA started I really liked it. You are also correct that there are some good agencies. What myself and others are trying to point out is we don'the like the way the agencies now control the INA, where has the support for nannies gone? As for elite nanny jobs not being posted online, I have seen several. AGENCIES post jobs online especially care.com then turn around and bash it. It is hard to respect agencies that do not follow their own advice and these are agencies that INA get behind. As for famous people, I have also seen their positions posted online via a personal assistant.

[Anonymous]

It's very disturbing that INA is not responding to any of our concerns, OP. Maybe today?

-Another formerly active INA nanny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This board is full of INA haters, so don't feel bad OP.

Then again some of the negative reviews of the INA may have a point. INA use to be about supporting fellow nannies. Wonder why online services attract even elite nannies? Perhaps nannies have gotten tired of being products sold by the INA supported agencies, we have found we are able to get excellent positions on our own. Many of us excellent nannies do not want INA becoming the industry police. Many of us nannies do our job for the love of children and do not need to be Nanny of the year.

Agree. I got tired of the "elite" agencies telling me my rates were too high. They wanted me, but for wages far below what I normally earn. I no longer waste time talking to any of them. I can earn my regular rates without them.

Most of them do nothing to earn their outrageous fees. Nothing of value for the parents or the nannies. Nothing.

Whenever I see these threads I always wonder if the people commenting have actually participated in INA? Have you attended a conference? Got to know the people involved? If the answer is yes, then I respect your opinion. Unfortunately I've met several nannies who have no experience with INA but base their opinions off of what they have read online or heard.

There are a lot of bad agencies out there, but there are also some gems. In my opinion the best ones in the country are several of ones I've met and networked with at INA. There are some who actually do work and earn their fees. Mahler Private Staffing, British American, Stanford Park Nannies are my favorites.

I agree that everyone should utilize every resource available in their job searches including online sources like Care. Don't fool yourself and think that the top jobs are available without agencies though. Marissa Mayer, Mark Zuckerberg and Justin Timberlake are never going to search for a nanny on Care.com. They are all using some of the top agencies right now in their nanny search.

Celebrities do use online to find both nannies and housekeepers via their personal assistant.

If you are a nanny for the love of the industry then aspire to work for someone famous IMO are not in the industry for the right reason. I am so tired of those seeking to get that 5 minutes of fame via writing the next big tell all book. Certainly child abusing nanny are sick but those using kids to get fame are not that much better. I feel for the famous people they always have to feel on edge when they bring someone in to their private life.

[Anonymous]

Wrong thread, 23:02, and you know it. You'd be better off to address the issue at hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be thrilled to see a true certification program, but that would need to involve classes, hands-on training, and ideally a mentorship program similar to student teaching, not just an exam.

OP here. I received the email earlier and pasted it over, but my thought is much like yours. On one hand, there's only so much you can learn from a book, and experience will be a much better teacher for most people. On the other hand, there are tons of issues that can arise over the course of employment with a family, and there are some things that it's best to learn from a book before trying to implement (especially with children).

Who exactly is responsible for writing up this test? Who wrote up the study materials? If your answer is some INA committee, please list their names and experience with early childhood development. Thank you very much.

OP? Anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's very disturbing that INA is not responding to any of our concerns, OP. Maybe today?

-Another formerly active INA nanny

Was responding to PP regarding their comment about famous people only using agencies. So what is your problem to this, are you the thread police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wrong thread, 23:02, and you know it. You'd be better off to address the issue at hand.

Oops sorry [e-mail] went to the wrong coment, so this,is,to this one. Again I was responding to the post saying famous people only use agencies, so what is your problem with this.

[Anonymous]

INA is too busy trying to beef up its membership. People are dropping out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong thread, 23:02, and you know it. You'd be better off to address the issue at hand.

Oops sorry [e-mail] went to the wrong coment, so this,is,to this one. Again I was responding to the post saying famous people only use agencies, so what is your problem with this.

It has absolutely ZERO to do with the original thread. Stop trying to hijack things to press you own bizarre, irrelevant agenda.