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Are you interested in an INA Accredited Certification Program?


Over the last ten years, many caregivers and training programs have shared concerns that there is no accredited Nanny or NCS Certification in the United States. Professionals all over the country (and beyond) have asked why the INA hasn’t developed a program for certification. After all, we are the umbrella association and strive to lead the way for the nanny and newborn care industry. We share your concerns and want to be able to provide a legitimate, respected, and accredited certification program. The executive board has been hard at work researching the right way to go about this. We want to share the process with you and get your feedback about what is important to our membership, as well as the in-home childcare community at large.

Having a program accredited will take a tremendous amount of volunteer time and energy, and it is a huge financial investment. It can cost between $70,000 to $200,000 to create just one or two certification programs, and do so correctly. We understand there is a need and desire to see this happen, and as a longtime leader in the in-home childcare industry, we believe we are in a unique position to develop it. In order to consider a project of this magnitude, we need to understand how many people would invest in this program and what expectations they have.

Nannies, NCS, and other care providers, please help the industry and take a few minutes to complete this survey and distribute it to everyone you know. Encourage your colleagues by letting them know the feedback we receive from this survey will directly impact the decisions the INA Board of Directors makes about an Accredited Certification Program in the future.

Placement agencies, please take a moment to share the Family Survey with your clients. It is vital that we understand how important a program like this would be to parents. Please also share the Caregiver Survey with the nannies and newborn care professionals in your database. You can include the information in this letter to better explain our position. We need this information to move forward.

Thank you for your help. If you would like to understand more about the differences between a certification program (accredited and non) and a certificate program, or how INA plans to become accredited, please check out our blog post on the subject.
Survey submissions deadline is Sunday, March 20th.
Cortney Gibson - President
Marcia Hall - Vice President

Nanny/NCS link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuKeoLeKzi6bDp0LvksCeI-2Fw-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jteSlaajZ3YqvbS3fiDuFvG8Ch6RHosLoJxH5woJX4oIx-2B82J2iFppW0dZ0A-2BQsKH2v3qWnm3sMxzg2JwxYdXH8oeaN9qe-2FdPDqfk7OfpKTmYy-2F2TIbhPTwJ5sQQbUSAGH1QFx3AwjmgObqHaUDl-2BzY-3D

Family link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuXupl4tiPj8gLsO8qDZQTAQ-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jjUxf3VDwtXI02TepDWrcl6dk2c545eW7jGe7E2BQMpPtZ8NPX0950SgFIUNAb2hsC8-2Fo-2BNz7lYwLTRmAD0KUe-2BjH8dRyb-2BIWEaM-2BNM7584mB2qDh82CUURQcJPOM9t2cgrMDdgQKJhtjuIBFpPMyUw-3D
Anonymous
INA should really step-up and actively advocate for better care for children in their homes. Part of this demands that INA take a stand for legally mandated nanny protections. So called domestic service workers are the only workers in America that I know of, who have no protections in place and no where to report abusive employers or nanny agencies. INA has become well-known to always push an agenda that increases the profits of unscrupulous nanny agency owners and other business owners who have controlled this industry group.

Please explain how many actual nanny members you currently have vs. how many business owners. Parent members are a tiny percent of your membership, from what I understand.
Anonymous
INA is awesome in many ways, but is in no way the umbrella of the industry. IMO INA has become so commercial and about making money and mostly a support to agencies so they can make more money. Nanny of the Year has become so much a hype and a way of bragging, employers should not feel that they have to show how much they love their nanny and nominate them for this. I have personally called many agencies including INA ones if being a credential nanny gets those nannies the jobs, and they all say it is a nice bonus but experience gets nannies the jobs. I have seen no benefit the 50.00 test made in seeking employment or helped in any way. Getting a nanny credential only says I have passed a test, and by the way nannies with Dyslexia should have a pass on being timed, even major universities do this. So NO I do not support any of this by the INA.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:INA should really step-up and actively advocate for better care for children in their homes. Part of this demands that INA take a stand for legally mandated nanny protections. So called domestic service workers are the only workers in America that I know of, who have no protections in place and no where to report abusive employers or nanny agencies. INA has become well-known to always push an agenda that increases the profits of unscrupulous nanny agency owners and other business owners who have controlled this industry group.

Please explain how many actual nanny members you currently have vs. how many business owners. Parent members are a tiny percent of your membership, from what I understand.



So agree to this, good call, try helping the actual nannies for a change
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are you interested in an INA Accredited Certification Program?


Over the last ten years, many caregivers and training programs have shared concerns that there is no accredited Nanny or NCS Certification in the United States. Professionals all over the country (and beyond) have asked why the INA hasn’t developed a program for certification. After all, we are the umbrella association and strive to lead the way for the nanny and newborn care industry. We share your concerns and want to be able to provide a legitimate, respected, and accredited certification program. The executive board has been hard at work researching the right way to go about this. We want to share the process with you and get your feedback about what is important to our membership, as well as the in-home childcare community at large.

Having a program accredited will take a tremendous amount of volunteer time and energy, and it is a huge financial investment. It can cost between $70,000 to $200,000 to create just one or two certification programs, and do so correctly. We understand there is a need and desire to see this happen, and as a longtime leader in the in-home childcare industry, we believe we are in a unique position to develop it. In order to consider a project of this magnitude, we need to understand how many people would invest in this program and what expectations they have.

Nannies, NCS, and other care providers, please help the industry and take a few minutes to complete this survey and distribute it to everyone you know. Encourage your colleagues by letting them know the feedback we receive from this survey will directly impact the decisions the INA Board of Directors makes about an Accredited Certification Program in the future.

Placement agencies, please take a moment to share the Family Survey with your clients. It is vital that we understand how important a program like this would be to parents. Please also share the Caregiver Survey with the nannies and newborn care professionals in your database. You can include the information in this letter to better explain our position. We need this information to move forward.

Thank you for your help. If you would like to understand more about the differences between a certification program (accredited and non) and a certificate program, or how INA plans to become accredited, please check out our blog post on the subject.
Survey submissions deadline is Sunday, March 20th.
Cortney Gibson - President
Marcia Hall - Vice President

Nanny/NCS link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuKeoLeKzi6bDp0LvksCeI-2Fw-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jteSlaajZ3YqvbS3fiDuFvG8Ch6RHosLoJxH5woJX4oIx-2B82J2iFppW0dZ0A-2BQsKH2v3qWnm3sMxzg2JwxYdXH8oeaN9qe-2FdPDqfk7OfpKTmYy-2F2TIbhPTwJ5sQQbUSAGH1QFx3AwjmgObqHaUDl-2BzY-3D

Family link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuXupl4tiPj8gLsO8qDZQTAQ-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jjUxf3VDwtXI02TepDWrcl6dk2c545eW7jGe7E2BQMpPtZ8NPX0950SgFIUNAb2hsC8-2Fo-2BNz7lYwLTRmAD0KUe-2BjH8dRyb-2BIWEaM-
2BNM7584mB2qDh82CUURQcJPOM9t2cgrMDdgQKJhtjuIBFpPMyUw-3D






Total NO WAY to this
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you interested in an INA Accredited Certification Program?


Over the last ten years, many caregivers and training programs have shared concerns that there is no accredited Nanny or NCS Certification in the United States. Professionals all over the country (and beyond) have asked why the INA hasn’t developed a program for certification. After all, we are the umbrella association and strive to lead the way for the nanny and newborn care industry. We share your concerns and want to be able to provide a legitimate, respected, and accredited certification program. The executive board has been hard at work researching the right way to go about this. We want to share the process with you and get your feedback about what is important to our membership, as well as the in-home childcare community at large.

Having a program accredited will take a tremendous amount of volunteer time and energy, and it is a huge financial investment. It can cost between $70,000 to $200,000 to create just one or two certification programs, and do so correctly. We understand there is a need and desire to see this happen, and as a longtime leader in the in-home childcare industry, we believe we are in a unique position to develop it. In order to consider a project of this magnitude, we need to understand how many people would invest in this program and what expectations they have.

Nannies, NCS, and other care providers, please help the industry and take a few minutes to complete this survey and distribute it to everyone you know. Encourage your colleagues by letting them know the feedback we receive from this survey will directly impact the decisions the INA Board of Directors makes about an Accredited Certification Program in the future.

Placement agencies, please take a moment to share the Family Survey with your clients. It is vital that we understand how important a program like this would be to parents. Please also share the Caregiver Survey with the nannies and newborn care professionals in your database. You can include the information in this letter to better explain our position. We need this information to move forward.

Thank you for your help. If you would like to understand more about the differences between a certification program (accredited and non) and a certificate program, or how INA plans to become accredited, please check out our blog post on the subject.
Survey submissions deadline is Sunday, March 20th.
Cortney Gibson - President
Marcia Hall - Vice President

Nanny/NCS link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuKeoLeKzi6bDp0LvksCeI-2Fw-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jteSlaajZ3YqvbS3fiDuFvG8Ch6RHosLoJxH5woJX4oIx-2B82J2iFppW0dZ0A-2BQsKH2v3qWnm3sMxzg2JwxYdXH8oeaN9qe-2FdPDqfk7OfpKTmYy-2F2TIbhPTwJ5sQQbUSAGH1QFx3AwjmgObqHaUDl-2BzY-3D

Family link: https://u2064561.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=IRHuNry4b5Qh0YMx7KK9TNHEqt-2B-2BUf2BbJ5dGuM5l7orXlvvx6LAiIH8jUy3mQ-2BuXupl4tiPj8gLsO8qDZQTAQ-3D-3D_Q-2FRKXtZouUmLQwot4wiYzooYRaWD6Yanewnmcmo8JWMxo9hZfZ956VnqeVxL-2BfogXQg2hylE3fXKAyVTz317jjUxf3VDwtXI02TepDWrcl6dk2c545eW7jGe7E2BQMpPtZ8NPX0950SgFIUNAb2hsC8-2Fo-2BNz7lYwLTRmAD0KUe-2BjH8dRyb-2BIWEaM-
2BNM7584mB2qDh82CUURQcJPOM9t2cgrMDdgQKJhtjuIBFpPMyUw-3D






Total NO WAY to this

Agree 100%. INA has done absolutely nothing to help nannies or the children in their care, from what I've seen.
Anonymous
Why are you all against an accredited certification program? Part of the reason you see all the bickering on here over rates, and why some people think you can get a good nanny for $15/hour, not pay overtime, or offer any benefits is because there is no certification process to becoming a nanny!

Anyone can call themselves a nanny, which means there are tons of people available for our jobs, which gives employers the opportunity to put us against each other offering as little as possible.

An accredited certification process would separate the warm bodies from the professionals. It'd be like the difference between a licensed home daycare, and an unlicensed place where people store their children for $50 a week. The professional nannies would no longer have to compete with the warm bodies, and we could demand professional rates and treatment.

Yes we can do that now, but it's difficult when there are so many downward pressures in our market. Why would a parent pay $25/hour for a degreed, credentialed, and experienced nanny, when they THINK they can get the same thing for $15, and she'll "teach their kids Spanish" and clean their house?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why are you all against an accredited certification program? Part of the reason you see all the bickering on here over rates, and why some people think you can get a good nanny for $15/hour, not pay overtime, or offer any benefits is because there is no certification process to becoming a nanny!

Anyone can call themselves a nanny, which means there are tons of people available for our jobs, which gives employers the opportunity to put us against each other offering as little as possible.

An accredited certification process would separate the warm bodies from the professionals. It'd be like the difference between a licensed home daycare, and an unlicensed place where people store their children for $50 a week. The professional nannies would no longer have to compete with the warm bodies, and we could demand professional rates and treatment.

Yes we can do that now, but it's difficult when there are so many downward pressures in our market. Why would a parent pay $25/hour for a degreed, credentialed, and experienced nanny, when they THINK they can get the same thing for $15, and she'll "teach their kids Spanish" and clean their house?



Because we do not need agencies controlling the nannies anymore, when they stop making it about them and their money perhaps I would be open to it. The only thing the INA is showing is that someone can take a test. And I do not think employers will pay more because someone passed a test. INA should spend more time in helping nannies to get more support in getting payed legally. I actually had an agency ( big INA person ) drop me because I quit a job they placed me in because the employer refused to pay legally, and I even took the job and gave that employer time to set up the taxes. INA start regulating your agencies or better yet get them off the board.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are you all against an accredited certification program? Part of the reason you see all the bickering on here over rates, and why some people think you can get a good nanny for $15/hour, not pay overtime, or offer any benefits is because there is no certification process to becoming a nanny!

Anyone can call themselves a nanny, which means there are tons of people available for our jobs, which gives employers the opportunity to put us against each other offering as little as possible.

An accredited certification process would separate the warm bodies from the professionals. It'd be like the difference between a licensed home daycare, and an unlicensed place where people store their children for $50 a week. The professional nannies would no longer have to compete with the warm bodies, and we could demand professional rates and treatment.

Yes we can do that now, but it's difficult when there are so many downward pressures in our market. Why would a parent pay $25/hour for a degreed, credentialed, and experienced nanny, when they THINK they can get the same thing for $15, and she'll "teach their kids Spanish" and clean their house?



Because we do not need agencies controlling the nannies anymore, when they stop making it about them and their money perhaps I would be open to it. The only thing the INA is showing is that someone can take a test. And I do not think employers will pay more because someone passed a test. INA should spend more time in helping nannies to get more support in getting payed legally. I actually had an agency ( big INA person ) drop me because I quit a job they placed me in because the employer refused to pay legally, and I even took the job and gave that employer time to set up the taxes. INA start regulating your agencies or better yet get them off the board.

Exactly. Business owners who aren't nannies on the INA board is like the fox guarding the hen house. What a joke!
Anonymous
I would not support this measure until INA is about nannies again
Anonymous
These are separate issues! Why forgo something that could benefit the industry simply because you're not happy about other things within that industry?

Parents pay more for licensed daycare centers, do they not? If an accredited nanny license or certification became as well known as a CPR certification or daycare license in childcare, parents would pay more for it. We could even advocate that the credential be legally required. Setting higher bars and standards in our industry will force people to take us seriosuly! Right now it's like the lawless wild west with everyone making up their own rules and ignoring the ones they don't like.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These are separate issues! Why forgo something that could benefit the industry simply because you're not happy about other things within that industry?

Parents pay more for licensed daycare centers, do they not? If an accredited nanny license or certification became as well known as a CPR certification or daycare license in childcare, parents would pay more for it. We could even advocate that the credential be legally required. Setting higher bars and standards in our industry will force people to take us seriosuly! Right now it's like the lawless wild west with everyone making up their own rules and ignoring the ones they don't like.




Just because some one can pass a test does not make them a better nanny nor does it increase pay, experience is what makes a difference. Ask any agency if this is not the case. FYI also just because a person gets a CPR card does not mean they will know how to execute that skill.

No I do not want to see INA ( especially ) start trying to legislate what a nanny is, they are in this for the money, INA use to be great till they got greedy. INA is for the increase of profit for them and the agencies, this is not about support for nannies or the industry, they just feel the need to control.

I cannot support this
Anonymous
I would be thrilled to see a true certification program, but that would need to involve classes, hands-on training, and ideally a mentorship program similar to student teaching, not just an exam.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would be thrilled to see a true certification program, but that would need to involve classes, hands-on training, and ideally a mentorship program similar to student teaching, not just an exam.


OP here. I received the email earlier and pasted it over, but my thought is much like yours. On one hand, there's only so much you can learn from a book, and experience will be a much better teacher for most people. On the other hand, there are tons of issues that can arise over the course of employment with a family, and there are some things that it's best to learn from a book before trying to implement (especially with children).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would be thrilled to see a true certification program, but that would need to involve classes, hands-on training, and ideally a mentorship program similar to student teaching, not just an exam.


OP here. I received the email earlier and pasted it over, but my thought is much like yours. On one hand, there's only so much you can learn from a book, and experience will be a much better teacher for most people. On the other hand, there are tons of issues that can arise over the course of employment with a family, and there are some things that it's best to learn from a book before trying to implement (especially with children).




Nothing wrong with education in anything but OP what I do not like is trying to sale an exam, giving those taking it the impression that they will make more money by having a credential, OP you and I both know this is not true. There is a whole sales pitch on this from the INA and is misleading.
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