Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

[Anonymous]

OP I have never heard a Mom be happy with the situation only nannies reporting that the moms are happy (i.e. making it up). Our neighbor and another mom had a bad experience doing this. It is a significant hassle. The nannies child is not a sibling to your child and your child can plenty of social interaction with actual play dates and activities not stuck with a built in one.

*The nanny will follow her own parenting style with her child. This means there is either consistency with your child or your child ends up following her preferences not yours.
*You will end up funding activity fees and outing fees for her child or have to restrict these activities.
*Your child will have more limited activities and/or playmates due to the nannies child's schedule and because she is already managing 2 kids
*You are not getting much of a discount but the nanny is less available to keep up on other tasks as she is busy taking care of her child.
*The liability is what would scare me the most. The nanny is an employee and your home and auto insurance would not cover an injury to her child while she is working for you in your home or car.
*There are very, very employers who will agree to this situation. As such, nannies are desperate to say anything and pretend that this is working. Your nanny will NEVER tell you if there are problems with her child and your child or if the situation is not working out in the best interest of your child.
*You basically have to deal with all the stuff for hosting a nanny share but you don't have the same rate discount and equal care as you would in a normal share.
*There is no way that the nanny will put your child's needs above her own child's.

[Anonymous]

Myopic vision at its best, 8:51.

[Anonymous]

Myopic vision at its best, 8:51.

Aren't you making all the PP's points about how nannies are not honest about this situation? For me, the sheer dishonesty that nannies display about this arrangement is the strongest point against doing it.

Seriously, this is a really sub par set up. It benefits the nanny 100% and is a 100% drawback for the family/charges.

[Anonymous]

Agreed.

8:51 has excellent points on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Myopic vision at its best, 8:51.

Aren't you making all the PP's points about how nannies are not honest about this situation? For me, the sheer dishonesty that nannies display about this arrangement is the strongest point against doing it.

Seriously, this is a really sub par set up. It benefits the nanny 100% and is a 100% drawback for the family/charges.

Dishonesty? On what do you base your accusation?

[Anonymous]

I've read through these pages and other threads on this subjects. The nannies have yet to bring up one legitimate reason why a MB should this. Its only nasty responses to MBs bringing multiple points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Every family and nanny are entitled to their own opinions and preferences, and should function accordingly.

For people who are still on the fence about this, you may want to give it a trial period of two or three weeks and see for yourself how it works out for you. That's really the only way to see how it might work with a specific nanny. As always, everyone is different.

[Anonymous]

This could be risky. Why so?

Your child will get less attention if she already has a toddler to look after. Also, if her toddler gets ill, he or she can share the germs with your baby and your baby can get sick. Also, liability factors exist. When if the toddler breaks something in your home?

Sure, you can proceed and see what happens. This may work out.
However, I wouldn't pay this nanny the same rate I would pay a nanny who didn't bring another child along since your child would be receiving less attention and be exposed to add'l germs.

Allowing someone to bring along another child is a HUGE perk for them. This allows them to not have to pay for childcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've read through these pages and other threads on this subjects. The nannies have yet to bring up one legitimate reason why a MB should this. Its only nasty responses to MBs bringing multiple points.

Actually, I think many nannies are also saying they wouldn't do this. I know I am one of those that is against a nanny bringing her own child, and I am a nanny. I replied earlier asking the one nanny that kept saying it could be a win-win-win for all, on how it was much more beneficial to the nanny than the family, and that a family could get the same "benefits" of that type of situation from either just doing social activities with other children, or from an actual share (and then saving more money).

I see no real benefit to a family that would only come from this type of thing, and as much as nannies that are for this type of situation say that they would never put their child first, I think that I wouldn't be able to stop myself from doing so if it came down to it. Like with an accident, I would go to my kid first, even just for a few minutes, before realizing the other child was more hurt and going to help that one instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP I have never heard a Mom be happy with the situation only nannies reporting that the moms are happy (i.e. making it up). Our neighbor and another mom had a bad experience doing this. It is a significant hassle. The nannies child is not a sibling to your child and your child can plenty of social interaction with actual play dates and activities not stuck with a built in one.

*The nanny will follow her own parenting style with her child. This means there is either consistency with your child or your child ends up following her preferences not yours.
*You will end up funding activity fees and outing fees for her child or have to restrict these activities.
*Your child will have more limited activities and/or playmates due to the nannies child's schedule and because she is already managing 2 kids
*You are not getting much of a discount but the nanny is less available to keep up on other tasks as she is busy taking care of her child.
*The liability is what would scare me the most. The nanny is an employee and your home and auto insurance would not cover an injury to her child while she is working for you in your home or car.
*There are very, very employers who will agree to this situation. As such, nannies are desperate to say anything and pretend that this is working. Your nanny will NEVER tell you if there are problems with her child and your child or if the situation is not working out in the best interest of your child.
*You basically have to deal with all the stuff for hosting a nanny share but you don't have the same rate discount and equal care as you would in a normal share.
*There is no way that the nanny will put your child's needs above her own child's.

These are all very good points. This arrangement really is all about the nanny. I can understand why a parent might accommodate a nanny in this way if she had worked with them for years before having her own child, and if they only expected to need her for another year or so. I cannot imagine why anyone would go out and hire a new nanny who wanted to bring her child, except at share rates of under $10 per hour.

[Anonymous]

Once nannies have their own child, they can earn a small fortune if they do a little high-quality licensed childcare program in their homes.

You can even do a 9-noon program and charge $30. per morning, per child. Start with one child and add on as you gain more experience. Forget about silly PPs $10./hr. If you attract high-income parents, they will pay very well for their child's first out-of-home mini-classroom experience. Most parents don't want their singletons to miss out on having regular social experiences, and don't want to be bothered with playdates all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Once nannies have their own child, they can earn a small fortune if they do a little high-quality licensed childcare program in their homes.

You can even do a 9-noon program and charge $30. per morning, per child. Start with one child and add on as you gain more experience. Forget about silly PPs $10./hr. If you attract high-income parents, they will pay very well for their child's first out-of-home mini-classroom experience. Most parents don't want their singletons to miss out on having regular social experiences, and don't want to be bothered with playdates all the time.

I think this idea has some sense, but it's not as easy as you make it sound. First, this sort of thing would only work for 2+ toddlers, not infants.

Secondly, to attract high-income parents, you need to reside in a spacious, well-designed house. That's not to say that nannies don't live in that type of houses, I'm sure some do, but all I'm saying is that this sort of thing won't work out of an apartment, for instance. Licensing requirements will also require you to have a certain amount of footage per child.

Thirdly, I think you are wrong by presenting this as a "little something." My son is in a high-quality home daycare and the owner busts her bum working all day, and the reason her place is so popular is that it is run like a business, full-time, like a well-oiled machine. It's not a hobby. It's not something she does in her spare time. That is her job, and it's much more than 9 to 5. Put less effort into it, and it is simply not feasible commercially.

Lastly, for that sort of thing it is expected that you have access to a safe, enclosed green space, which isn't easy to find. The owner of our home daycare is looking to expand, and she says one of the stumbling blocks is the lack of suitable green spaces.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Once nannies have their own child, they can earn a small fortune if they do a little high-quality licensed childcare program in their homes.

You can even do a 9-noon program and charge $30. per morning, per child. Start with one child and add on as you gain more experience. Forget about silly PPs $10./hr. If you attract high-income parents, they will pay very well for their child's first out-of-home mini-classroom experience. Most parents don't want their singletons to miss out on having regular social experiences, and don't want to be bothered with playdates all the time.

I think this idea has some sense, but it's not as easy as you make it sound. First, this sort of thing would only work for 2+ toddlers, not infants.

Secondly, to attract high-income parents, you need to reside in a spacious, well-designed house. That's not to say that nannies don't live in that type of houses, I'm sure some do, but all I'm saying is that this sort of thing won't work out of an apartment, for instance. Licensing requirements will also require you to have a certain amount of footage per child.

Thirdly, I think you are wrong by presenting this as a "little something." My son is in a high-quality home daycare and the owner busts her bum working all day, and the reason her place is so popular is that it is run like a business, full-time, like a well-oiled machine. It's not a hobby. It's not something she does in her spare time. That is her job, and it's much more than 9 to 5. Put less effort into it, and it is simply not feasible commercially.

Lastly, for that sort of thing it is expected that you have access to a safe, enclosed green space, which isn't easy to find. The owner of our home daycare is looking to expand, and she says one of the stumbling blocks is the lack of suitable green spaces.

19:36 here. You are truly one of the most depressing people around. It's not as easy as I make it sound? I actually DID it! You apparently haven't. I don't suppose you have an "easy" job either. "Easy" work has never been my goal in life, but maybe it is for you. You really sound like an awful person. I feel sorry for anyone sharing a roof with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Once nannies have their own child, they can earn a small fortune if they do a little high-quality licensed childcare program in their homes.

You can even do a 9-noon program and charge $30. per morning, per child. Start with one child and add on as you gain more experience. Forget about silly PPs $10./hr. If you attract high-income parents, they will pay very well for their child's first out-of-home mini-classroom experience. Most parents don't want their singletons to miss out on having regular social experiences, and don't want to be bothered with playdates all the time.

I think this idea has some sense, but it's not as easy as you make it sound. First, this sort of thing would only work for 2+ toddlers, not infants.

Secondly, to attract high-income parents, you need to reside in a spacious, well-designed house. That's not to say that nannies don't live in that type of houses, I'm sure some do, but all I'm saying is that this sort of thing won't work out of an apartment, for instance. Licensing requirements will also require you to have a certain amount of footage per child.

Thirdly, I think you are wrong by presenting this as a "little something." My son is in a high-quality home daycare and the owner busts her bum working all day, and the reason her place is so popular is that it is run like a business, full-time, like a well-oiled machine. It's not a hobby. It's not something she does in her spare time. That is her job, and it's much more than 9 to 5. Put less effort into it, and it is simply not feasible commercially.

Lastly, for that sort of thing it is expected that you have access to a safe, enclosed green space, which isn't easy to find. The owner of our home daycare is looking to expand, and she says one of the stumbling blocks is the lack of suitable green spaces.

19:36 here. You are truly one of the most depressing people around. It's not as easy as I make it sound? I actually DID it! You apparently haven't. I don't suppose you have an "easy" job either. "Easy" work has never been my goal in life, but maybe it is for you. You really sound like an awful person. I feel sorry for anyone sharing a roof with you.

I don't doubt that you did it. Parents have differing requirements toward their childcare providers. I'm sure you would fit the bill for some. My daycare host is nothing like you, and amen to that.

There is no need to get personal in an impersonal argument. I don't know you. We will never meet. And what I feel for anyone sharing a roof or anything else with you is, quite appropriately, nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Once nannies have their own child, they can earn a small fortune if they do a little high-quality licensed childcare program in their homes.

You can even do a 9-noon program and charge $30. per morning, per child. Start with one child and add on as you gain more experience. Forget about silly PPs $10./hr. If you attract high-income parents, they will pay very well for their child's first out-of-home mini-classroom experience. Most parents don't want their singletons to miss out on having regular social experiences, and don't want to be bothered with playdates all the time.


I think this idea has some sense, but it's not as easy as you make it sound. First, this sort of thing would only work for 2+ toddlers, not infants.

Secondly, to attract high-income parents, you need to reside in a spacious, well-designed house. That's not to say that nannies don't live in that type of houses, I'm sure some do, but all I'm saying is that this sort of thing won't work out of an apartment, for instance. Licensing requirements will also require you to have a certain amount of footage per child.

Thirdly, I think you are wrong by presenting this as a "little something." My son is in a high-quality home daycare and the owner busts her bum working all day, and the reason her place is so popular is that it is run like a business, full-time, like a well-oiled machine. It's not a hobby. It's not something she does in her spare time. That is her job, and it's much more than 9 to 5. Put less effort into it, and it is simply not feasible commercially.

Lastly, for that sort of thing it is expected that you have access to a safe, enclosed green space, which isn't easy to find. The owner of our home daycare is looking to expand, and she says one of the stumbling blocks is the lack of suitable green spaces.


19:36 here. You are truly one of the most depressing people around. It's not as easy as I make it sound? I actually DID it! You apparently haven't. I don't suppose you have an "easy" job either. "Easy" work has never been my goal in life, but maybe it is for you. You really sound like an awful person. I feel sorry for anyone sharing a roof with you.

Wow, 19:36, you're really rude. Are you a licensed day care provider?