Kicked out of the program???

[Anonymous]

I’m looking at CC rematch candidates and 3 of them are rematching because the FAMILY has been asked to leave the program. Seems insane given I know of so many families who are reprimanded but not terminated for going over hours, etc. and one where host dad tried to get it on w AU pair....still hosting. Have you all heard of this? Cracking down on rule breaking or some really really bad host family behavior??

[Anonymous]

Host families can also be kicked out for too many rematches

[Anonymous]

I was an au pair several years ago and the first family I had got kicked out.
They were in PA just outside Philadelphia. 3 kids 6,8, and 13 and the Mom was pregnant. I was only there for 3 weeks before I requested to switch. I worked every Saturday and only had Sunday off. On Mon morning all their dishes and pots and pans were in the sink from Sunday for me to clean. I did everyones laundry and they had a 3rd car but never took me out driving in it once. I was 18 and had to pick up all the kids clothes off the floor, make the kids beds, including the 13yo, it was demeaning to say the least.

I left and came to a family in DC. About a month later I get a call from my LLC in PA because the 2nd au pair quit and they were investigating the family. They did end up kicking the family out of the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was an au pair several years ago and the first family I had got kicked out.
They were in PA just outside Philadelphia. 3 kids 6,8, and 13 and the Mom was pregnant. I was only there for 3 weeks before I requested to switch. I worked every Saturday and only had Sunday off. On Mon morning all their dishes and pots and pans were in the sink from Sunday for me to clean. I did everyones laundry and they had a 3rd car but never took me out driving in it once. I was 18 and had to pick up all the kids clothes off the floor, make the kids beds, including the 13yo, it was demeaning to say the least.

I left and came to a family in DC. About a month later I get a call from my LLC in PA because the 2nd au pair quit and they were investigating the family. They did end up kicking the family out of the program.

My au pair is friend with an Ap in her second year. She stayed the whole year with a family
- who never gave her the 1.5 day off on weekend
- who made her take off when their twins were taking a nap and there was no one else at home (so she could not leave the house but she was supposedly off, so she was working 12+hours/days)
- both parents would sometimes leave early for work before the beginning of her shift forcing her start earlier than her official start time
She stayed with them the whole year because she was too scared to rematch because her English was really bad.
The Family is still hosting because I don’t think ap ever officially complained.
The Family is in the DC area so they might be reading this, if you are, F you! Stop exploiting APs. Not cool!

[Anonymous]

There is more of a focus on HFs to make sure APs aren't being exploited now post-lawsuit. It's probably warranted- just like there are terrible APs, there are terrible families. And given that families don't have the same level of screening as APs, probably more than a few nutters get through.

[Anonymous]

They may have said the family is kicked out from the program because they don’t want you to talk to the family and find out the real reason of the rematch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They may have said the family is kicked out from the program because they don’t want you to talk to the family and find out the real reason of the rematch.

THIS, x100. This is what CCAP said about me. A bunch of lies (and my au pair was kicked out of the program after CCAP rematched her and she nearly killed the next host family's kid with food allergies).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They may have said the family is kicked out from the program because they don’t want you to talk to the family and find out the real reason of the rematch.

THIS, x100. This is what CCAP said about me. A bunch of lies (and my au pair was kicked out of the program after CCAP rematched her and she nearly killed the next host family's kid with food allergies).

CCAP is from the same Kellyanne Conway school of spin! That is why I don't work with them anymore. I had to deal with sub-par APs, and I also know of HFs who should not be hosting.

[Anonymous]

Does it say “host family is no longer with the program” or “host family removed”?
Hi
We were with CCAP but they treated us like crap and tried to tell us we were a bad host family due to three rematches (the first was lovely but couldn’t get kids to school on time or perform basic duties after 3 months of trying; the second was a chronic liar, partied so hard she vomited in her room from drinking, repeatedly lied to us and to LCC, forgot to pick up kids, had multiple car accidents; and the third was clinically depressed and on her second rematch). Never mind that we were also a very successful host family with other au pairs and stayed in touch with them after they returned home at the end of the year. So, it’s entirely possible CCAP claimed we were unavailable to provide reference or no longer with the program, when in fact they were just lecturing us and then trying to push even worse rematch candidates on us.

We were so frustrated with CCAP’s handling of child endangerment, repeat property damage, lies, and major mental health issues (all chalked up to “these are vulnerable young people in a new country”) that we quit the agency and asked for a refund. They didn’t remove us, but they treated us badly enough that we removed ourselves and demanded money back.

We are now with APC and it is a WORLD of difference. Communication is so much clearer for both au pairs and host families, no ambiguity about rules, no confusion over how vacation days are counted, au pairs are clearly informed of things like “au pairs are not entitled to holidays off and host families may ask you to work; many families expect au pairs to work New Year’s Eve.” This has led to far less resentment from au pairs because it’s the agency explaining the rules versus the host family explaining the rules as CCAP left us to do.

So yeah - CCAP might be the issue here. I’d never recommend them. That said, there are surely bad host families out there and they SHOULD be removed. But I wouldn’t trust CCAP to do that honestly either!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does it say “host family is no longer with the program” or “host family removed”?
Hi
We were with CCAP but they treated us like crap and tried to tell us we were a bad host family due to three rematches (the first was lovely but couldn’t get kids to school on time or perform basic duties after 3 months of trying; the second was a chronic liar, partied so hard she vomited in her room from drinking, repeatedly lied to us and to LCC, forgot to pick up kids, had multiple car accidents; and the third was clinically depressed and on her second rematch). Never mind that we were also a very successful host family with other au pairs and stayed in touch with them after they returned home at the end of the year. So, it’s entirely possible CCAP claimed we were unavailable to provide reference or no longer with the program, when in fact they were just lecturing us and then trying to push even worse rematch candidates on us.

We were so frustrated with CCAP’s handling of child endangerment, repeat property damage, lies, and major mental health issues (all chalked up to “these are vulnerable young people in a new country”) that we quit the agency and asked for a refund. They didn’t remove us, but they treated us badly enough that we removed ourselves and demanded money back.

We are now with APC and it is a WORLD of difference. Communication is so much clearer for both au pairs and host families, no ambiguity about rules, no confusion over how vacation days are counted, au pairs are clearly informed of things like “au pairs are not entitled to holidays off and host families may ask you to work; many families expect au pairs to work New Year’s Eve.” This has led to far less resentment from au pairs because it’s the agency explaining the rules versus the host family explaining the rules as CCAP left us to do.

So yeah - CCAP might be the issue here. I’d never recommend them. That said, there are surely bad host families out there and they SHOULD be removed. But I wouldn’t trust CCAP to do that honestly either!

Even Au pairs complain about CCAP communication and how once they get to the US the intense contact levels off

[Anonymous]

I just read a rematch profile on CCAP where the family requested a rematch because the Au Pair had a cold sore and hadn't previously disclosed it in matching. AP dodged a bullet because that Host Family is clearly CRAY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read a rematch profile on CCAP where the family requested a rematch because the Au Pair had a cold sore and hadn't previously disclosed it in matching. AP dodged a bullet because that Host Family is clearly CRAY.

Ive seen that crazy debate on here when we had a nanny and the insane parents posting over there. People are nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read a rematch profile on CCAP where the family requested a rematch because the Au Pair had a cold sore and hadn't previously disclosed it in matching. AP dodged a bullet because that Host Family is clearly CRAY.

I think it's fascinating that you take CCAP at their word. Their rematch profiles are complete fiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read a rematch profile on CCAP where the family requested a rematch because the Au Pair had a cold sore and hadn't previously disclosed it in matching. AP dodged a bullet because that Host Family is clearly CRAY.

I actually remember reading in another forum about similar situation . The young host kid was severely immunocompromized. The pediatrician agreed with mom that it was a risk, and offered to treat AP, but AP refused. Knowing about their child condition, HM asked ever which way about medical history of incoming AP in matching and was assured there was no history. So I get that HM decision (might not be your example).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read a rematch profile on CCAP where the family requested a rematch because the Au Pair had a cold sore and hadn't previously disclosed it in matching. AP dodged a bullet because that Host Family is clearly CRAY.

I actually remember reading in another forum about similar situation . The young host kid was severely immunocompromized. The pediatrician agreed with mom that it was a risk, and offered to treat AP, but AP refused. Knowing about their child condition, HM asked ever which way about medical history of incoming AP in matching and was assured there was no history. So I get that HM decision (might not be your example).

Yea, the mom sounds brilliant. Let's hire a foreign worker with absolutely no understanding of the foreign nationals background to care for her "severely" immunocompromised child.