WTF?! Excuse my French!

[Anonymous]

Today I reached out to one of my families about my schedule. They recently offered me another day and now that I have my new schedule, it has been complete chaos! We never talked about whether they were going to work on that extra day, run errands etc. They have been texting me late or the day of, asking me if I am available to come in. I didn't expect for them to call me whenever- is this okay?

I asked moving forward, if we can be a little more organized and if I can have my FULL schedule in advance- this is about the 3rd time we've had this conversation. I also brought up some other things. Now, this was through text and I took it as she was being defensive and smart. She mentioned about the dads ALWAYS arriving on time or early... THAT IS A LIE (at least for 1 of the dads)! I wanted to screenshot every text I have received saying "I'm going to be late" or "Ill be arriving at this time." I don't know what dad is telling you but no, he is hardly early or on-time. So she's going to say and I quote "I hope you know that we understand when you're late and I hope the same courtesy we give to you, you give to us- if not let me know." ..... Hold up! Now, yes I have been late and I checked my text (because I keep and document EVERYTHING) I have been late 3 times since May and twice was this month. The 2 times I was late this month was because they ask me to come in at a different time, which I have expressed to EVERYONE, if I have to arrive at this time, I WILL be late! This is not my contract hours and its not the hours I signed up for because I knew commuting would be an issue at that time. So I'm like how dare you?! And that's not even my issue, it's that you all need to be organize, considerate and professional. Don't get me wrong, I love and appreciate them and I know the feeling is mutual; but I didn't sign up for all these shenanigans. She always says they need to do better, so you already know its an issue, so why haven't you changed?

Should I address the comment she made? Its really bothering me because I have put up with so much with them and I can't believe this.

[Anonymous]

I would definitely address the comment w/her.

Otherwise it will continue to bother you & make you bitter.

You risk being passive/aggressive + always holding a heavy grudge.

[Anonymous]

I think you need a new family to work for. I don't see much love and respect from their side...

You are fully within your rights to have a proper work schedule and if they can't provide that, you need to look elsewhere. They need to understand it isn't all about them and that you have a life outside this job.

[Anonymous]

I'd never put up with that.

[Anonymous]

OP here. I'm probably going to address it today and offer creating a time sheet, because I'm not sure what's being said, but I'm rarely late and I have proof. I also commute from an hour a way so I make sure to leave out a little earlier so I can arrive early or at least on time.

Thanks for your responses!

[Anonymous]

Don't let them take advantage of you, PP. I know you care about them but don't let that overshawdow your self worth. You deserve to be treated with respect.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes though they act like dumb and saying oh really I didn't read that text; ahh hello I sent it x times. I just don't understand why parents or some of them don't appreciate their nannies/ babysitters or least be nice or be fair to them. Wake up! We are taking care of your precious little ones and whether you like it or not we are part of their lives at least. It's ridiculous hearing so many stories about horrible employers who are making our job difficult.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like this is a share? If it is, then everyone has to be more organized.

Also, whatever the schedule "rules" and expectations are need to be put in writing. Today. If they need you to come in at a time that you aren't willing to come in, you may lose your job. You have to decide if that's worth it to you. Otherwise, I have to agree with the MB -- if you want the right to be late because you aren't willing to leave your house even earlier to get there on time, you're basically telling them it's ok to do the same kind of thing.

[Anonymous]

Op here. I didn't say anything today because I was/am still bothered and I didn't want it to come off wrong. I'm going to start documenting everything. I feel I having given too much leadway and allowing them to get away with things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this is a share? If it is, then everyone has to be more organized.

Also, whatever the schedule "rules" and expectations are need to be put in writing. Today. If they need you to come in at a time that you aren't willing to come in, you may lose your job. You have to decide if that's worth it to you. Otherwise, I have to agree with the MB -- if you want the right to be late because you aren't willing to leave your house even earlier to get there on time, you're basically telling them it's ok to do the same kind of thing.

Yes, I am in a share. I'm not sure if you're saying "they need to leave for work earlier" or " I (the nanny) should leave my home earlier." I do leave my house early to arrive on time and when I get there, they want to socialize for 15-30 minutes. I'm okay with talking, but if you are being late then maybe we should talk less. Honestly, I'm okay with losing my job because I already have so many ppl offering me full time positions (I currently babysit for them). Even, my physician wants me to care for her children. I would hate to end my time as a nanny because the other family doesn't deserve that but I don't know. I'm going to give them another shot and edit my current contract (which hasn't been updated).

[Anonymous]

If you can't arrive on time when asked to come in early, don't agree to it. Say, "Unfortunately I am unable to make it by 7, but can arrive by 7:15 if you'd like." But I honestly don't understand why you can't leave earlier to ensure on-time arrival. This is unprofessional and you must lead through example, otherwise you get the response that you did.

But why not take a different job that offers guaranteed hours and is closer to home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you can't arrive on time when asked to come in early, don't agree to it. Say, "Unfortunately I am unable to make it by 7, but can arrive by 7:15 if you'd like." But I honestly don't understand why you can't leave earlier to ensure on-time arrival. This is unprofessional and you must lead through example, otherwise you get the response that you did.

But why not take a different job that offers guaranteed hours and is closer to home?

What are you talking about? I may need to reread my thread because I don't think I mentioned anything about coming early. I was asking for them to be more organize and let me know of my shifts in advance. The topic about being "late" came up and that was her response.

I actually did accept a job but they wanted me to stay (thinking things would change) so I did. But now that it's still going the same way I may just reach out to those parents. I try to make things work but you can only try but so much.

[Anonymous]

The different time (I mentioned in the thread) was them asking me to come in later in the morning- not earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you can't arrive on time when asked to come in early, don't agree to it. Say, "Unfortunately I am unable to make it by 7, but can arrive by 7:15 if you'd like." But I honestly don't understand why you can't leave earlier to ensure on-time arrival. This is unprofessional and you must lead through example, otherwise you get the response that you did.

But why not take a different job that offers guaranteed hours and is closer to home?

What are you talking about? I may need to reread my thread because I don't think I mentioned anything about coming early. I was asking for them to be more organize and let me know of my shifts in advance. The topic about being "late" came up and that was her response.

I actually did accept a job but they wanted me to stay (thinking things would change) so I did. But now that it's still going the same way I may just reach out to those parents. I try to make things work but you can only try but so much.

This is what you wrote: "Now, yes I have been late and I checked my text (because I keep and document EVERYTHING) I have been late 3 times since May and twice was this month. The 2 times I was late this month was because they ask me to come in at a different time, which I have expressed to EVERYONE, if I have to arrive at this time, I WILL be late! This is not my contract hours and its not the hours I signed up for because I knew commuting would be an issue at that time."

PP was referring to your words. If you know you're going to be late, leave earlier!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you can't arrive on time when asked to come in early, don't agree to it. Say, "Unfortunately I am unable to make it by 7, but can arrive by 7:15 if you'd like." But I honestly don't understand why you can't leave earlier to ensure on-time arrival. This is unprofessional and you must lead through example, otherwise you get the response that you did.

But why not take a different job that offers guaranteed hours and is closer to home?

What are you talking about? I may need to reread my thread because I don't think I mentioned anything about coming early. I was asking for them to be more organize and let me know of my shifts in advance. The topic about being "late" came up and that was her response.

I actually did accept a job but they wanted me to stay (thinking things would change) so I did. But now that it's still going the same way I may just reach out to those parents. I try to make things work but you can only try but so much.

This is what you wrote: "Now, yes I have been late and I checked my text (because I keep and document EVERYTHING) I have been late 3 times since May and twice was this month. The 2 times I was late this month was because they ask me to come in at a different time, which I have expressed to EVERYONE, if I have to arrive at this time, I WILL be late! This is not my contract hours and its not the hours I signed up for because I knew commuting would be an issue at that time."

PP was referring to your words. If you know you're going to be late, leave earlier!

No. I'm sorry, these are not the hours in my contract that I signed. However, you (the employer) have signed a contract that states my shift ends at this time. Again, this was not my issue and I explained to them when I was hired, that I was looking for this time to this time. I should not have to leave my house THREE hours before my shift starts to arrive on time (that's how early I would have to leave). But those changes were made and moving forward, I will report to work at the scheduled time listed in my contract. Thank you for time!