Is this an odd way to get paid?

[Anonymous]

Current position is ending do I am looking for a new one. I went on an interview for a nanny share. I liked them overall but they aren't paying very competitive ( $21/hr for two 12 week old infants). The mothers explained that it will be a weekly salary of $840 for 40 hours a week. They said some weeks I will leave earlier but still get paid and other weeks I will work more but still be paid the same rate. Their thinking was the pay and hours will even out.

Guaranteed hours are off the table and when I brought up OT, they said they wouldn't be paying that. Of course I am not considering this position but I've never heard of such a way to be paid in all my years of exp.

Does this seem odd and practically illegal?

[Anonymous]

So sad that mothers want to cheat the nanny like that. Do they want to put it in a written agreement?

Two babies are a ton of work. They need to up the pay. Are they in Northern Va?

[Anonymous]

They are trying to avoid overtime pay. Very sneaky and cheap.

[Anonymous]

$21 is more than fine.

But they need to pay you overtime when it is worked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Current position is ending do I am looking for a new one. I went on an interview for a nanny share. I liked them overall but they aren't paying very competitive ( $21/hr for two 12 week old infants). The mothers explained that it will be a weekly salary of $840 for 40 hours a week. They said some weeks I will leave earlier but still get paid and other weeks I will work more but still be paid the same rate. Their thinking was the pay and hours will even out.

Guaranteed hours are off the table and when I brought up OT, they said they wouldn't be paying that. Of course I am not considering this position but I've never heard of such a way to be paid in all my years of exp.

Does this seem odd and practically illegal?

My current nanny family did this too, scheduled me 8-6 Monday through Friday, but when I asked about overtime said I would never work the full week and "if we get home at 3, you can leave at 3". Guess who has, never once, gotten home before 5 pm?

[Anonymous]

21 is a lot

[Anonymous]

It sounds that they are trying to bank hours, but just don't know what to call it. If one week, you work 38 hours, they still pay for 40 hours, but bank 2 hours, so the next week they might want 42 hours, without paying overtime they just subtract 2 from the bank. I think this is what they trying to do. I have heard some families bank hours, but I don't think it usually works very well.

[Anonymous]

They are trying to pay a salary, which is not legal, nor is it beneficial to anyone but the employer. It is a terrible idea for a nanny, since you are paid for your time and not for the completion of any task. There is nothing to guarantee that it will all "even out", and many MANY of us have experienced the promises of getting to leave early followed by the reality of frequent late nights/early mornings. Do not even consider this position.

Unfortunately, they will find some poor sucker who will quickly see that $21/hour for 40 hours dwindle down to $15-16 for 50 hours and no overtime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are trying to pay a salary, which is not legal, nor is it beneficial to anyone but the employer. It is a terrible idea for a nanny, since you are paid for your time and not for the completion of any task. There is nothing to guarantee that it will all "even out", and many MANY of us have experienced the promises of getting to leave early followed by the reality of frequent late nights/early mornings. Do not even consider this position.

Unfortunately, they will find some poor sucker who will quickly see that $21/hour for 40 hours dwindle down to $15-16 for 50 hours and no overtime.

I have worked with two families who have paid by salary. It actually is not illegal at all. I've worked for an accountant family and an attorney family. My boyfriend is an attorney and he looked over my contracts. Never once was I not paid. I was paid a weekly salary rate ( with OT) and then any additional work I did for the week was paid at my OT rate in cash. This happened with both families. I was happily paid, compensated when I didn't work, and I never once was underpaid for not compensated for hours I worked. Not all people paying salary are in it for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Current position is ending do I am looking for a new one. I went on an interview for a nanny share. I liked them overall but they aren't paying very competitive ( $21/hr for two 12 week old infants). The mothers explained that it will be a weekly salary of $840 for 40 hours a week. They said some weeks I will leave earlier but still get paid and other weeks I will work more but still be paid the same rate. Their thinking was the pay and hours will even out.

Guaranteed hours are off the table and when I brought up OT, they said they wouldn't be paying that. Of course I am not considering this position but I've never heard of such a way to be paid in all my years of exp.

Does this seem odd and practically illegal?

Op here. To me $21/hr is not a lot when you have to care for two infants, change homes every week, handle all baby care, and they want you to handle pet care for both families and some meal prep for both. That seems like a lot. They also don't offer benefits

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are trying to pay a salary, which is not legal, nor is it beneficial to anyone but the employer. It is a terrible idea for a nanny, since you are paid for your time and not for the completion of any task. There is nothing to guarantee that it will all "even out", and many MANY of us have experienced the promises of getting to leave early followed by the reality of frequent late nights/early mornings. Do not even consider this position.

Unfortunately, they will find some poor sucker who will quickly see that $21/hour for 40 hours dwindle down to $15-16 for 50 hours and no overtime.

I have worked with two families who have paid by salary. It actually is not illegal at all. I've worked for an accountant family and an attorney family. My boyfriend is an attorney and he looked over my contracts. Never once was I not paid. I was paid a weekly salary rate ( with OT) and then any additional work I did for the week was paid at my OT rate in cash. This happened with both families. I was happily paid, compensated when I didn't work, and I never once was underpaid for not compensated for hours I worked. Not all people paying salary are in it for themselves.

This is not a salary, genius. Salary means you are paid a set weekly amount, regardless of the number of hours worked. You do not get paid more for working extra hours. You were guaranteed hours. Even if you stupidly and mistakenly want to call what you had a "salary," it still is not the situation OP described, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to post your idiocy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are trying to pay a salary, which is not legal, nor is it beneficial to anyone but the employer. It is a terrible idea for a nanny, since you are paid for your time and not for the completion of any task. There is nothing to guarantee that it will all "even out", and many MANY of us have experienced the promises of getting to leave early followed by the reality of frequent late nights/early mornings. Do not even consider this position.

Unfortunately, they will find some poor sucker who will quickly see that $21/hour for 40 hours dwindle down to $15-16 for 50 hours and no overtime.

I have worked with two families who have paid by salary. It actually is not illegal at all. I've worked for an accountant family and an attorney family. My boyfriend is an attorney and he looked over my contracts. Never once was I not paid. I was paid a weekly salary rate ( with OT) and then any additional work I did for the week was paid at my OT rate in cash. This happened with both families. I was happily paid, compensated when I didn't work, and I never once was underpaid for not compensated for hours I worked. Not all people paying salary are in it for themselves.

I am OP

This is not a salary, genius. Salary means you are paid a set weekly amount, regardless of the number of hours worked. You do not get paid more for working extra hours. You were guaranteed hours. Even if you stupidly and mistakenly want to call what you had a "salary," it still is not the situation OP described, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to post your idiocy.

I am OP genius. Read up little one. A salary does not always mean set pay for set hours. There are ways around that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are trying to pay a salary, which is not legal, nor is it beneficial to anyone but the employer. It is a terrible idea for a nanny, since you are paid for your time and not for the completion of any task. There is nothing to guarantee that it will all "even out", and many MANY of us have experienced the promises of getting to leave early followed by the reality of frequent late nights/early mornings. Do not even consider this position.

Unfortunately, they will find some poor sucker who will quickly see that $21/hour for 40 hours dwindle down to $15-16 for 50 hours and no overtime.

I have worked with two families who have paid by salary. It actually is not illegal at all. I've worked for an accountant family and an attorney family. My boyfriend is an attorney and he looked over my contracts. Never once was I not paid. I was paid a weekly salary rate ( with OT) and then any additional work I did for the week was paid at my OT rate in cash. This happened with both families. I was happily paid, compensated when I didn't work, and I never once was underpaid for not compensated for hours I worked. Not all people paying salary are in it for themselves.

I am OP

This is not a salary, genius. Salary means you are paid a set weekly amount, regardless of the number of hours worked. You do not get paid more for working extra hours. You were guaranteed hours. Even if you stupidly and mistakenly want to call what you had a "salary," it still is not the situation OP described, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to post your idiocy.

I am OP genius. Read up little one. A salary does not always mean set pay for set hours. There are ways around that.

So you're trolling.

[Anonymous]

It seems to me as if this pay structure will work more in their favor than in yours.

I would bow out now because if you end up taking the job, you will end up figuring this out soon enough and getting bitter about it.

And nothing is worse than a bitter nanny.

Well, perhaps a bitter nanny with two infants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Current position is ending do I am looking for a new one. I went on an interview for a nanny share. I liked them overall but they aren't paying very competitive ( $21/hr for two 12 week old infants). The mothers explained that it will be a weekly salary of $840 for 40 hours a week. They said some weeks I will leave earlier but still get paid and other weeks I will work more but still be paid the same rate. Their thinking was the pay and hours will even out.

Guaranteed hours are off the table and when I brought up OT, they said they wouldn't be paying that. Of course I am not considering this position but I've never heard of such a way to be paid in all my years of exp.

Does this seem odd and practically illegal?

Op here. To me $21/hr is not a lot when you have to care for two infants, change homes every week, handle all baby care, and they want you to handle pet care for both families and some meal prep for both. That seems like a lot. They also don't offer benefits

That's crazy. RUN! I speak from experience. Trust me.