Please Tell Me Who Is Right Here.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous! Just find a family who has no interest in cameras.

Believe it or not there are plenty.

Actually the majority of families do not have cameras on their walls at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous! Just find a family who has no interest in cameras.

Believe it or not there are plenty.

Actually the majority of families do not have cameras on their walls at home.

Cameras are a part of the job with all the high-income/high-profile families I have worked for. If you want to make $30 an hour plus healthcare and a car - you put up with the cameras.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous! Just find a family who has no interest in cameras.

Believe it or not there are plenty.

Actually the majority of families do not have cameras on their walls at home.

Cameras are a part of the job with all the high-income/high-profile families I have worked for. If you want to make $30 an hour plus healthcare and a car - you put up with the cameras.

My job pays better. Without spying. Sorry!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous! Just find a family who has no interest in cameras.

Believe it or not there are plenty.

Actually the majority of families do not have cameras on their walls at home.

Cameras are a part of the job with all the high-income/high-profile families I have worked for. If you want to make $30 an hour plus healthcare and a car - you put up with the cameras.

My job pays better. Without spying. Sorry!

No, it doesn't. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous! Just find a family who has no interest in cameras.

Believe it or not there are plenty.

Actually the majority of families do not have cameras on their walls at home.

Cameras are a part of the job with all the high-income/high-profile families I have worked for. If you want to make $30 an hour plus healthcare and a car - you put up with the cameras.

My job pays better. Without spying. Sorry!

No, it doesn't. Stop embarrassing yourself.

If you believe you speak for all nannies, you should at least identify yourself.

[Anonymous]

Why does it matter if you consented to it or not? You don’t consent to it now, so they either don’t use audio or they do and you quit.

[Anonymous]

If this is so typical and there is audio, how do you make personal calls without the Parents hearing your end of the conversation? Say you have to make a Drs appt and when you call and they say what do you need to be seen for, the parents will hear. That’s technically a HIPAA violation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this is so typical and there is audio, how do you make personal calls without the Parents hearing your end of the conversation? Say you have to make a Drs appt and when you call and they say what do you need to be seen for, the parents will hear. That’s technically a HIPAA violation.

Excellent point. Nannies often work 50-60 hours a week M-F without a personal break from the work environment.

Yet they should have no expectation of privacy for a personal phone call to her physician's office during normal business hours?

That's totally outrageous. Some of you employers have gone off on the deep end. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Or maybe it's only one or two women on this forum who keep insisting on the absolute necessity of spy cameras throughout the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this is so typical and there is audio, how do you make personal calls without the Parents hearing your end of the conversation? Say you have to make a Drs appt and when you call and they say what do you need to be seen for, the parents will hear. That’s technically a HIPAA violation.

You talking about your own private health information in a public space/ workplace where others may hear is absolutely not a HIPAA violation wow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is so typical and there is audio, how do you make personal calls without the Parents hearing your end of the conversation? Say you have to make a Drs appt and when you call and they say what do you need to be seen for, the parents will hear. That’s technically a HIPAA violation.

You talking about your own private health information in a public space/ workplace where others may hear is absolutely not a HIPAA violation wow

So a nanny should have no ability to make a personal call to her physician's office??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You consented by NOT saying "I don't consent to the audio." You said it made you uncomfortable because of singing, they said no, and you said .... nothing after that. Thus, you consented. I'm sorry.

But if it helps at all, they're not judging your singing, or showing it to others or laughing at you for it or anything. They're just making sure you aren't cursing out their kids while smiling, aren't saying it's a good thing they're pretty because they sure are stupid, or bashing the parents to the kids.

I am in CA, have cameras and am not spending all day watching the nanny. I don't have time. I watched more when my babies were very young, and check in when they're sick, or they're going through a difficult phase.

People are responding that consent was given, but they are only speaking of their opinion .
Again, if a woman goes up to a guy’s room, kisses him and even has foreplay, if he then rapes her when she didn’t want it....
Does this mean she gave consent by only saying no at the very last second??

If a Nanny is told that she is being recorded via audio and if she continues after that, then how can consent be proven in a court of law??
It cannot because legally she never gave consent to be recorded.

If anyone can prove me wrong, I will eat crow.
And buy you a steak for dinner too.

Your comparison makes no sense.

If I was going to make a comparison with a sexual situation, it would be this.

A woman goes to a man's house, engages in foreplay, and then states that she's going to change, goes into the bathroom, comes out naked, and then sues him for being a peeping Tom, because he saw her naked.

Of course it wouldn't stand in court. By coming into the room naked, when she knew he was there, she consented to him seeing her naked. If he'd been hiding in her closet, it would be different, of course. But not if he was out in the open and there when she went into the room.

Similarly, a woman who enters a room where she's clearly been told that there's audio recording, is consenting to being audio recorded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is so typical and there is audio, how do you make personal calls without the Parents hearing your end of the conversation? Say you have to make a Drs appt and when you call and they say what do you need to be seen for, the parents will hear. That’s technically a HIPAA violation.

You talking about your own private health information in a public space/ workplace where others may hear is absolutely not a HIPAA violation wow

So a nanny should have no ability to make a personal call to her physician's office??

A nanny can do the same thing as an office worker here. Office workers can usually make personal calls at work but are limited in how much privacy they can get, as few people get fully enclosed private offices. You can step into a quieter space (like an empty corridor or conference room) but there is always a chance someone may come in. Or you just accept that your cubicle neighbor will hear you have an appt for Tuesday 9am. A nanny could step into a place where there aren’t cameras in the house (say, bathroom, guest bedroom), or in the backyard/playground while watching the kids play. But generally you aren’t discussing a ton of private medical info on the phone anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is so typical and there is audio, how do you make personal calls without the Parents hearing your end of the conversation? Say you have to make a Drs appt and when you call and they say what do you need to be seen for, the parents will hear. That’s technically a HIPAA violation.

You talking about your own private health information in a public space/ workplace where others may hear is absolutely not a HIPAA violation wow

So a nanny should have no ability to make a personal call to her physician's office??

A nanny can do the same thing as an office worker here. Office workers can usually make personal calls at work but are limited in how much privacy they can get, as few people get fully enclosed private offices. You can step into a quieter space (like an empty corridor or conference room) but there is always a chance someone may come in. Or you just accept that your cubicle neighbor will hear you have an appt for Tuesday 9am. A nanny could step into a place where there aren’t cameras in the house (say, bathroom, guest bedroom), or in the backyard/playground while watching the kids play. But generally you aren’t discussing a ton of private medical info on the phone anyway.

Please tell me which office doesn't allow you (as a matter of policy) to step out for a 30 or 60 minute lunch break?

I did once have a job with a parent at home that did allow me to take an hour personal lunch break every day, but that sort of situation is very rare for nannies.

[Anonymous]

Such nonsense.

Of course a nanny can make a doctor/dentist appointment on her phone - best if when the kids are sleeping but acceptable other times as well. I think everyone knows the difference between calling the dentist's office and checking your instagram! The problem is nannies on their phones texting and checking social media while they should be working - and you all know it.

And as a nanny, I have been able to make all my appointments and return business calls when my charges are sleeping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Such nonsense.

Of course a nanny can make a doctor/dentist appointment on her phone - best if when the kids are sleeping but acceptable other times as well. I think everyone knows the difference between calling the dentist's office and checking your instagram! The problem is nannies on their phones texting and checking social media while they should be working - and you all know it.

And as a nanny, I have been able to make all my appointments and return business calls when my charges are sleeping.

I have to use non-nap periods, but I always have had st least one child who was past napping. It’s completely possible to make appointments from the bathroom, playground, back yard, etc.